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Old 09-05-2010, 06:31 PM     Post subject: 100nl 5 hands vs. same fish #1 (permalink)  
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3 consecutive hands against same fish:

V is 70/22 over 27
note: min bet 3 streets with AK high 3-way

1)
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Button ($100)
SB ($142.60)
Hero (BB) ($105.25)
same fish (UTG) ($91.60)
UTG+1 ($127.50)
MP1 ($40.05)
MP2 ($182.20)
CO ($29)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8, 5
same fish calls $1, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1, MP2 calls $1, 3 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($4.50) J, 8, 7 (4 players)
Hero checks, same fish bets $1, MP1 calls $1, MP2 calls $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($8.50) 5 (4 players)
Hero bets $7, same fish calls $7, 2 folds

River: ($22.50) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $19, same fish raises to $38



2)
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CO ($100)
Button ($142.10)
Hero (SB) ($153.75)
BB ($100)
same fish (UTG) ($44.60)
UTG+1 ($127.50)
MP1 ($38.05)
MP2 ($180.20)
MP3 ($29)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, J
same fish calls $1, 6 folds, Hero calls $0.50, BB checks

Flop: ($3) A, 5, 7 (3 players)
Hero bets $2, 1 fold, same fish calls $2

Turn: ($7) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $4, same fish calls $4

River: ($15) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, same fish bets $8


3)
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MP3 ($100)
CO ($142.10)
Hero (Button) ($146.75)
SB ($100)
same fish (BB) ($51.85)
UTG ($127.50)
UTG+1 ($38.05)
MP1 ($180.20)
MP2 ($29)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, 10
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 4 folds, Hero bets $4, SB raises to $14, same fish calls $13, UTG+1 calls $13, Hero calls $10

Flop: ($56) J, 7, 9 (4 players)
SB checks, same fish bets $37.85 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $24.05 (All-In), Hero calls $37.85


4)
And one more a few hands later:
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MP ($144.80)
Hero (Button) ($100)
SB ($197)
same fish (BB) ($146.75)
UTG ($126)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2, A
2 folds, Hero bets $3, 1 fold, same fish calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 3, 7, Q (2 players)
same fish bets $1, Hero raises to $5, same fish calls $4

Turn: ($16.50) 10 (2 players)
same fish bets $1, Hero raises to $12




5)
A few after that...
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CO ($166.50)
Button ($144.80)
Hero (SB) ($100)
BB ($190.50)
same fish (UTG) ($168.60)
UTG+1 ($129.70)
MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($39)
MP3 ($101.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, A
same fish calls $1, 6 folds, Hero bets $5, 1 fold, same fish calls $4

Flop: ($11) Q, 2, 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $8, same fish calls $8

Turn: ($27) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $22, same fish calls $22

River: ($71) 10 (2 players)
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Old 09-07-2010, 02:20 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 What the hell is going on in hand 3?

4 looks like absolute spew.

1 is pretty meh. I'd call though I guess a small % of the time you will see JJ, 77, 69(lol), 64(lol) here. Not small enough to fold though.

2 is fine, fold the river.

5 bet river for value.
[00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
[00:30] <DC> daven
[00:30] <DC> on my hand?
[00:30] <daven> yep
[00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
[00:30] <daven> nice reason
[00:30] <daven> no further questions
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 hand 1 ai. congrats if he has us beat
hand 2. prolly fold. he has a lot of 2 pair hands now as well as straights and flooshes
hand 3. fold pre flop flop
hand 4 is fine if you want to raise his river min as well
hand 5 ship it in.
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 Hand 1 obviously c/f the flop
Hand 2 fold
Hand 3 The nit in me says fold pre? I guess the flop is ok
Hand 4 Don't bluff stations
Hand 5 Can't fault the shove
 
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Old 09-12-2010, 06:30 AM #5 (permalink)  
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1. I flatted and regretted it. He showed 96 for a turned straight

2. I folded.

3. We're getting better than 4.5:1 pre in position with 1 other possibly decent player, who has to act before the fish. I like it pre. On the flop, we have enough equity to call.

4. Yeah my read was that he minbet with bad hands, I guess the agro-tard in me took over. I couldn't pull the trigger on the river, he minbet, I called to see that he had T8o of no piece and no draw on the flop and a turned middle pair.

5. Shoved, he had A9s for a rivered floosh.
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Old 09-12-2010, 08:24 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 hand 1 - get it in, not even close - you have middle boat vs a moron and he never has JJ
hand 2 - iso pre, pot flop, c-f river
hand 3 - fold pre, not even close. As played fold flop, not even close
hand 4 - i don't understand either raise post-flop vs a station-fish
hand 5 - this one is interesting. Shove i guess.
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 09-15-2010, 11:48 AM #7 (permalink)  
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1) I was going to say fold flop but I guess its not that bad, shove river.
2) Iso 5X, bet big on the flop, shove turn. (Only got 45bb)
3) Fold pre.
4) Meh, A high is good a lot, so I would call down as long as he was min-betting. Not loving it tho.
5) Shove river. I think you could get a few more bbs out of him on flop/turn.
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Old 09-15-2010, 02:03 PM #8 (permalink)  
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1 - ship
2 - Jesus cried when u didnt raise preflop (this is a massive leak if u dont raise super wide here). bet bet bet, fold to raise.
3 - eh likely a fold pre but havent counted odds, flop is still a fold maybe but again ive not calc'd
4 - just call his lead, im not cbing A2o on flop anyway since his fold to cb stat is likely low. im not cbing a huge % of missed flops.
5 - ship river.

Note that hand 2 is such a major leak its not funny.

Also to add these hands seem to be very passively played vs a fish, i can only guess you play like this vs all kinds of players. Really need to focus on vamping up aggression.
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I didn't think this would generate this much discussion, but I'm glad it did.

I guess I'm just so averse to playing OOP that I'm missing a ton of value in hands like #2. I'll be working on that.

Hand 3 seems fine to me. I'd prefer something that isn't so dominated like an 87s before the flop, but I think KTs has plenty of equity given the players and stacks and odds involved. On the flop, the fish is probably shoving stuff as bad as T9 and the other player is getting better than 3:1. I don't see SB as much of a threat since he probably just open shoves anything of value on the flop.
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Old 09-15-2010, 07:39 PM #10 (permalink)  
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off my head in #2 id iso like as weak as J7s maybe at 6max, in FR u can still raise super wide.
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