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Old 10-18-2008, 04:00 PM     Post subject: 100NL, 3 bet bluffing went sour but given another chance #1 (permalink)  
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hand 1: villain is 15/10.5/4.5 over 450 hands. His att to steal is 28%. Fold to 3 bet is 80%. I'm not sure how much i should thin value bet on this river?
His range on the river i put on might be AK,KQs,AQ,TT,JJ,KK.
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MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($25.50)
MP3 ($102.90)
CO ($80.50)
Button ($85.05)
Hero (SB) ($116.05)
BB ($108.90)
UTG ($101.40)
UTG+1 ($22.90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 10, 9
2 folds, MP1 raises to $4, 4 folds, Hero raises to $14, 1 fold, MP1 calls $10

Flop: ($29) 3, 10, Q (2 players)
Hero bets $20, MP1 calls $20

Turn: ($69) A (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks

River: ($69) 9 (2 players)
Hero ?

hand 2: villain is 15/11/4 over 750 hands. He raised a lot lp in this session , so i tried to 3 bet him and get him off postflop. His 3 bet calling range on the river i put on is 99-KK. I thought i must bet to rep AK or even AA.
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CO ($98)
Button ($172.85)
Hero (SB) ($213.45)
BB ($42.40)
UTG ($99)
UTG+1 ($87)
MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($124.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7, 10
3 folds, MP2 raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $13, 1 fold, MP2 calls $9

Flop: ($27) 5, 8, 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $16, MP2 calls $16

Turn: ($59) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks

River: ($59) 3 (2 players)
Hero ?
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Old 10-18-2008, 07:22 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Both look like bets to me.
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Old 10-18-2008, 07:40 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 I like how #1 is played and would bet river. #2 I wouldn't 3bet pre and would c/f river but that's mainly to me thinking that no overpair is going to fold after your line of b/c/b
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Old 10-18-2008, 11:55 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 hand 1 bet $40
hand 2 fold pre
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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