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pgil
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09-05-2007, 05:36 PM
Post subject: 100 NL line check
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Full House
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Opp in this hand is pretty decent, a little loose passive pf, but seems to be very aggressive on the flop, less so on the turn, and is pretty good at making thin value bets on the river.
I have been pretty aggressive at this table, both pre and post flop. have been basically break-even, had to fold a few flops after being raised, don't know if this should be taken into consideration in this hand though.
PF seems pretty standard, decent shot at a good hand, with a few players in and a small amount to call.
flop seems as though it is marginal at best, turn I am really unsure of the best play. I don't think I can fold this turn ever, but don't know what is the best way to proceed.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($97.50)
UTG ($35.85)
UTG+1 ($25.15)
MP1 ($102.40)
MP2 ($33)
CO ($101.75)
Button ($205.60)
Hero ($107.20)
Preflop: Hero is SB with T , J.
4 folds, CO raises to $2, Button calls $2, Hero calls $1.50, BB calls $1.
Flop: ($8) J , 9, 9 (4 players)
Hero bets $4, BB folds, CO folds, Button raises to $12, Hero calls $8.
Turn: ($32) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $15, Hero raises to $93.2
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bode
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i think c/c on the flop is better than leading/calling
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pgil
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if you c/c flop, what do you do with the 8s on the turn?
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Miffed22001
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i like how you play this, only problem being the guy makes it clear on the flop he isnt folding.
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pgil
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
i like how you play this, only problem being the guy makes it clear on the flop he isnt folding.
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If he's not folding, does that make c/c turn a better option then, since he is offering odds, and I will probably get paid on a spade river. Or do you still like the turn push?
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Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by pgil
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
i like how you play this, only problem being the guy makes it clear on the flop he isnt folding.
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If he's not folding, does that make c/c turn a better option then, since he is offering odds, and I will probably get paid on a spade river. Or do you still like the turn push? |
both.
If you get odds i would prob call.
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Khabbi
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I don't like how this was played. You're getting odds to just call on the turn and make your hand. Why gamble it up now? Villain isn't folding here. Take your card and make it or fold.
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pgil
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Full House
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I tend to overplay pretty well every combo draw I get, so it is a leak I have to work on. gotta remember to take those cheep cards when they are given.
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Pants_101
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I don't like that flop much, a mediocre hand OOP with 3 opponents and a paired board... I'd check it and probably fold to a big bet. I don't want to get committed to that hand and I haven't invested too much at that point. As played the turn is a nice card of course, so call and try to get it all in if you hit - a push is not that much of an overbet at that stage.
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Must get more aggressive - Tonight we dine in $25NL! rah rah rah! etc
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Deanglow
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It looks like all you have against villain is a backdoor draw and a two outer. Betting the flop is fine, but fold to the raise please. You beat nothing.
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BankItDrew
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only push draws like this when you have fold equity. it doesn't look like villain hates his hand though. call the turn bet and bet large on the river if you hit. don't put anymore $ into the pot unless you improve your hand.
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