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BankItDrew
Old 09-13-2007, 03:47 AM     Post subject: 100/200NL couple questions on these lines #1 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1: Is this spew, or a continuation of aggression that is well timed? I figured villain for pp bigger than mine, so just trying to rep at least a king.

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Blinds: $1/$2
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Seat 1: Tnx4urMoney ($204.45 in chips)
Seat 2: BankItDrew ($174.55 in chips)
Seat 3: Beers4MeToo ($77.50 in chips)
Seat 4: KoKeR ($220.05 in chips)
Seat 5: muffy31 ($337.90 in chips)
Seat 6: BinaryFinary ($227.80 in chips)
Seat 7: eradicator04 ($203 in chips)
Seat 8: torres.t ($67 in chips)
Seat 9: PokerGuru ($191 in chips)

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with
4 folds, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: ($18, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8, SB raises to $16, Hero raises to $35, SB calls.

Turn: ($88, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $45, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: $45 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $88

Hand 2: Is this the sort of flop that should be checked? This is really standard I know, but the type of hand that comes up the most frequently.

Seat 1: mallard1236 ($107.20 in chips)
Seat 2: Jus' Jacks ($61.30 in chips)
Seat 3: j boom1 ($144.85 in chips)
Seat 4: tripschaos ($128.45 in chips)
Seat 6: BankItDrew ($98.40 in chips)
Seat 7: JKAT17 ($149.15 in chips)
Seat 8: mexor ($105.75 in chips)
Seat 9: 1Newbie ($82.60 in chips)

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Blinds: $0.50/$1
8 players

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with
5 folds, Button raises to $3, SB folds, Hero raises to $8, Button calls.

Flop: ($16.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $8, Button raises to $20, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $12 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: $32.5
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Old 09-13-2007, 06:48 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 1. When you are the aggressor plenty of cards can hit the turn and indeed the river that force your opponents into bad calls. I dont fire as many 2nd and 3rd barrels as i should but any turned broadway has fe if you are the pfr'er. In any case your opponent must raise if he caught the turn broadway or will raise for value if they have you slaughtered, so yeah, follow up on this turn always.

2. As a rule i check most 3 bet flops anyway, it means people who are bad enough to bet when checked too can put to really horrible decisions. C/r'ing all in with AA or AK on this board if you check to the button is sexy, because they really have to fold without a super solid read (or very strong hand)

Obviously, you also have the option to check/fold here too and its pretty obvious you missed this flop a whole lot...
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Old 09-13-2007, 07:28 PM #3 (permalink)  
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This doesn't look like standard play for a bot??!!

Hand 1: Flop C-bet seems a little low? Was this standard for you? I like 12-14 better. The re-pop is good and nicely sized, easily allows you to lay down when villian has something here, but says that you have a hand. Surprized villian called with likely 55-88/ NFD? here. Nice turn bet after his weak check, looks like it's for value. As for spew...that depends on how much of a calling station villian is. Stats?

Hand 2: I'm on the fence on the PF 3-bet. Not that calling is by any means better. Nice to assert the agression, but in the end you're going to have a relatively mediocre hand OOP for the rest of the hand. I like a call here more often to keep the pot small until I'm good. And again, I don't like the relatively small C-bet? If you are going to C-bet a flop that you 3-bet OOP Pre, you need to smack it harder than this. I don't think I open check the flop though. As played, easy fold.
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Old 09-13-2007, 07:30 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 why are you only betting 1/2 pot on the flop? Is this standard in full ring?
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 I've noticed you size bets strangely sometimes, but whatever. I like both hands.
 
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:28 AM #6 (permalink)  
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I've noticed you size bets strangely sometimes, but whatever.
Could you elaborate on this? Maybe I have some glaring flaws in my game regarding bet sizing. I tend to rely on Phil Gordon's Little Green Book and Phil Hellmuth's slowplaying advice with sizing.
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 I cant find the hand we played where I was the pfr, flop was low or paired, you donked small, I raised, you 3bet, I folded.

I had overs and thought you were weak at first, but seems like you had something. Maybe you like doing that to induce raises. I don't think it'll add much value overall, if at all.
 
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