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pgil
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07-29-2008, 02:05 AM
Post subject: 1/2 live - standard river play?
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Full House
Join Date: Jun 2005
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I am sitting on about 350-375, opp of interest has basically the same amount.
I limp after a couple limpers w/ Qs7s, button calls, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop comes As 4s 5s. Whooppee. checks to me, I bet 10, button and SB call.
turn is a blank. check to me, I bet 40. Button thinks, then folds, SB calls. I am under the impression that button has just folded the Ks. Seemed like he was chasing on the flop, what else is he chasing here?
river is another blank. SB leads for 25????
SB is a semi-reg (as far as I know, I am only there once a week at most). He seems to really love to call, and has seemingly only bet/raised with the nuts. has gotten most of his stack through a couple of runner runner boats to beat out flushes, things like that. Has seemingly been calling river bets with A high (whenever he mucks his hand, he sorta flips his cards, and I catch a small glimpse before they hit the muck). Looks like it is just A high on at least 2 river calls.
At the time I am about 80-90% certain that button folded the Ks, so the question is, is any made flush the nuts in opps eyes often enough to make raising this river a good play? I expect that any river raise on my part is going to lead to a push on his part, as he is leading with a hand that he thinks is the nuts, so raise/folding is not an option on my part.
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Deanglow
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one hundred dollars
prolly has an ace
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Fnord
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Button had an Ace and didn't think much of your flop bet.
Given your read, I'd just call. Without your read, I'm putting in a raise and have a decision if he shoves.
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pokerfan
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jun 2007
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i raise this vs most live players but i 'd just call here if you saw him only bet/raise nuts.
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bjsaust
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Straight Flush
Join Date: May 2007
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Call. His lead doesnt make sense with anything you beat that would call a raise (if that makes sense).
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Just playing to improve.
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pgil
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Full House
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I was so close to calling, but then went with my read that button folded the Ks. I was dead on with 1 read, and sorta right on the other. After the hand button said he folded the K, volunteered the info, so why would he be lying. SB did have two lower spades, but they were the 23 for teh nuts 
seems consensus is just call against this guy, and looking back it seems as though that is the better play, because button could be calling with a lot here, not just the Ks. and this opp clearly does not raise without the nuts on the river.
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pokerfan
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4-of-a-Kind
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yeah, if you play live games a lot, you know some OK regulars only bet nuts or close to nuts on a monotone board after you show sooo much strength in early streets.
take a note and move on, you will crush these soft games next week :P
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pgil
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Full House
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I still did kinda crush it. after being down about 300 left up just over 200. the best part was stacking a douchebag wearing stupid ass shades  noone at the table is looking at your eyes for tells, they usually don't even know you are there.
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