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Old 11-27-2007, 08:43 AM     Post subject: [x] Read his soul (lc) #1 (permalink)  
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Fnord ($95)
SB ($228.35)
BB ($215.70)
UTG ($197)
MP1 ($52.80)
MP2 ($211)
CO ($189.75)

Preflop: Fnord is Button with , .
UTG calls $2, 3 folds, Fnord raises to $10, 2 folds, UTG calls $8.

Flop: ($23) , , (2 players)
UTG checks, Fnord checks.

Turn: ($23) (2 players)
UTG checks, Fnord checks.

River: ($23) (2 players)
UTG bets $8, Fnord calls $8.

Final Pot: $39

Results in white below:
UTG has Kc Jc (full house, jacks full of kings).
Fnord has 8c Td (full house, eights full of jacks).
Outcome: UTG wins $39.
 
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:22 PM #2 (permalink)  
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ni han, but...

if he is such a postflop nit, that his calling range on river is only Jx, then why not to bluff flop?
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:33 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I am really curious as to why you don't bet the flop or turn in this situation.
 
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:40 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Read: UTG is a full-stacked multi-tabler who usually opens for 4x.

Sometimes I bet this flop, sometimes I don't...
 
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Old 11-27-2007, 06:58 PM #5 (permalink)  
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The times I don't bet this flop I play same way.
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:09 PM #6 (permalink)  
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The times I don't bet this flop I play same way.
Silly TAgg c-bet stations...
 
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:42 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I'm kinda surprised to see a Jack show up here, I would expect a counterfeited low pocket pair more often. You have stats on this one?

And I bet-fold the flop, because "most" villains don't limp-call hands with a jack UTG. Why did you think he had one?
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:00 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Standard river call.

I like checking behind on flop and turn since we get raised a lot, and cannot continue, while we look like we're kinda strong when we check.
 
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:02 AM #9 (permalink)  
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I'm kinda surprised to see a Jack show up here, I would expect a counterfeited low pocket pair more often. You have stats on this one?

And I bet-fold the flop, because "most" villains don't limp-call hands with a jack UTG. Why did you think he had one?
This was my thinking exactly. I can't put a regular on KJ, or any jack, in that spot.
 
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:07 AM #10 (permalink)  
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When a multi-tabler who usually opens for 4x limps UTG, what are we putting him on?
 
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:23 AM #11 (permalink)  
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Doesn't matter what we put him on, it matters what he calls a raise with.
 
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:25 AM #12 (permalink)  
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When a multi-tabler who usually opens for 4x limps UTG, what are we putting him on?
If it was me it would be something like 22-88. It sure as hell ain't KJo.
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A lot of decent players will EP limp good but not great hands a bit. JTs anybody? I have seen the best fullringer nit I know about limp KQ UTG.
 
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Old 11-28-2007, 06:21 AM #14 (permalink)  
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It sure as hell ain't KJo.
It was s00ted!
 
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