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04-27-2010, 04:30 AM Post subject: [100NL] - Few hands

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OddsAgainstU seems like a pretty decent reg (14/10/2). I think he's 2p2. Other two villains I have small samples on, but seem quite fishy.

I'm not sure if I should be raising his donk lead or not. Think I should though, especially this sizing, so probably a mistake to just call. Even though Odds won't continue with worse (other than big combo draws), I should get plenty of value from others with a raise.

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
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Stacks:
UTG Hero ($103)
UTG+1 ShanZ ($100)
MP1 cdeez8 ($122)
MP2 XcaliburJr ($175)
MP3 theraiser151 ($100)
CO Bloodsport91 ($40)
BTN basecleff1 ($43.15)
SB CK the 1 ($150)
BB OddsAgainstU ($148)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 9 players) Hero is UTG

Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, XcaliburJr calls $4, 2 folds, basecleff1 calls $4, 1 fold, OddsAgainstU calls $3

Flop:

($16.50, 4 players)
OddsAgainstU bets $8, Hero calls $8, XcaliburJr calls $8, basecleff1 goes all-in $39.15, OddsAgainstU goes all-in $144, $91 to Hero ($91)?

Villain is 36/16/1.7 over 60 hands.

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9 Players
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Stacks:
UTG Cyberraver ($104.85)
UTG+1 Stevereno420 ($223.15)
MP1 Hero ($176.10)
MP2 Anikke ($100)
MP3 trips 4 sure ($183.15)
CO battletoad2 ($124.95)
BTN RhinoBluff ($102.70)
SB coolmad ($156.50)
BB yukonhd ($101.50)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 9 players) Hero is MP1

Cyberraver raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $3, 1 fold, trips 4 sure calls $3, 4 folds

Flop:

($10.50, 3 players)
Cyberraver bets $7, Hero calls $7, trips 4 sure raises to $22, Cyberraver folds, Hero calls $15

Turn:

($61.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, trips 4 sure bets $30, Hero calls $30

River:

($121.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, trips 4 sure checks

Villain is a total unknown.. I really feel like all options pretty much suck here..

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
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Stacks:
UTG elitesauce ($50)
UTG+1 Onemore4Cook ($27.20)
MP1 DP388 ($100)
MP2 fleker ($221.80)
MP3 HonamLoveYou ($124.70)
CO CUBA QUAJIRO ($77)
BTN Anikke ($105.05)
SB Hero ($104.40)
BB nlb2110 ($110.55)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 9 players) Hero is SB

3 folds, fleker calls $1, 1 fold, CUBA QUAJIRO calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6, nlb2110 calls $5, fleker raises to $19, CUBA QUAJIRO folds, $13 to Hero ($98.4)?

Villain seems to be a looser reg. I really don't know what his 3betting range is against EP opens.. Is this okay? Should we be folding turn?

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($176.95)
UTG+1 CK the 1 ($146.10)
MP1 elChipLead3r ($100)
MP2 OddsAgainstU ($100)
MP3 Bloodsport91 ($44.55)
CO catleonet ($100)
BTN 47.BitterMan ($18.30)
SB shetmedraws ($36.60)
BB theraiser151 ($101)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 9 players) Hero is UTG

Hero raises to $4, CK the 1 raises to $12, 4 folds, 47.BitterMan calls $12, 2 folds, Hero calls $8

Flop:

($37.50, 3 players)
Hero checks, CK the 1 bets $18, 47.BitterMan goes all-in $6.30, Hero calls $18

Turn:

($79.80, 3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero checks, CK the 1 bets $38, Hero calls $38

River:

($155.80, 3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero checks, CK the 1 goes all-in $78.10, Hero folds

Battletoad2 is also a reg.. I have practically no recent stats on him, but he's (I think) on the passive side (is this right regs?)

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($196.60)
UTG+1 Anikke ($100)
MP1 trips 4 sure ($172.70)
MP2 battletoad2 ($103)
MP3 RhinoBluff ($100)
CO coolmad ($161.50)
BTN yukonhd ($100)
SB Cyberraver ($107.70)
BB Stevereno420 ($231.15)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 9 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, battletoad2 calls $4, 1 fold, coolmad calls $4, 2 folds, Stevereno420 calls $3

Flop: ($16.50, 4 players)
Stevereno420 checks, Hero bets $13, battletoad2 calls $13, 1 fold, Stevereno420 folds

Turn: ($42.50, 2 players)
Hero ($179.6)?

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04-27-2010, 01:54 PM

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1. not folding here ever vs odds he's looser than that tho u could make an arguement for folding because he's a sick luckbox

2. well his line is super strong, if he hasn't been aggressive at all postflop you can probably fold flop.

3. seems like folding is your only option.

4. set mine sort of, he's never light here.

5. close..I think it might check through here alot. you can probably check call since he might bet AQ to 'make the hand easier to play' and check back river because he won't consider bluffing with a hand that strong but not sure how he's thinking in that spot...

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04-27-2010, 03:59 PM

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1.I raise this donk bet for value and charge other draws in 4 way pot.As play,I call his shove cuz you just flatted,underrepped your hand and might be perceived by villian as weakness.
2.Why did you flat preflop&flop vs a loose player?My default play here is 3 bet preflop bar some light 3 bettors in blinds.I'd definity raise flop for value cuz you underrepped your hand strength and nobody puts you on KK here,man.As played,I play the same and would be happy to see cheap showdown OOP with sooo much money behind.
3.I can't see anything but a fold here
4.Not folding at any point.Again,you underrepped your hand and got perfect low cards non-ace flop.I c/r flop with the intention of calling off.
5.Is AJo in your UTG opening range?I doubt that you can make money from this hand in this position.As played,I throw out some gay bet on the turn and see cheap showdown.

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04-27-2010, 05:06 PM

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1) I don't know why I didn't raise the donk lead.. Seems pretty bad not too tbh. I really didn't know villain at the time other than he's a SN.

2) The preflop raiser wasn't the villain whose stats I put up. He seemed pretty standard over the small sample, so I chose to flat his EP open which is typically my standard. The Trips4sure villain is the stats that are up there.

3) Yeah.. Looking at it after my session was over, it's an easy fold. What are we doing with QQ/AK here?'

4) I think I should be folding turn. I think he very well could cbet the flop with QQ/AK if he 3bets those preflop, but come turn I think he checks those back some % of the time. So he's likely not valuebetting worse here, and probably not bluffing often enough either.

5) I forget why I opened AJo UTG. I think the BB Stevereno was playing really bad or something. But no it isn't typically in my UTG opening range. On the turn, I really feel like I can check/fold? Like I don't see what's worse that he would bet (other than maybe AQ).

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04-27-2010, 05:30 PM

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1. This is an easy fold as played
2. OK
3. No one is a total unknown.
4. Folding turn seems fine
5. Bet

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04-27-2010, 11:18 PM

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1 - Really don't like a flop raise. Seems pretty close, depends on how often odds squeezes hands like QQ here preflop, and how fishy the others are. I think it's a fold given only the reads posted.

2 - Fold flop. Ya rly.

3 - Fold.

4 - Fold flop.

5 - c/f. You're pretty much always toast here.

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04-28-2010, 03:15 AM

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1) fold flop, especially cos you have Ah.
2) wow, you be deep. You can either nit-fold flop or take the line you took.
3) fold. pretty standard.
4) check-fold turn?
5) bet-fold seems the only option

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04-28-2010, 11:07 AM

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1. Raise donk lead/get it in is likely best.
2. I typically 3B pre here FWIW. The flop looks like a fold but ur way underrepped and reads could easily change the hand.
3. Sigh fold
4. If he has QQ at all it's a calldown. If not it's a flop fold.
5. This is an easy fold pre for me. As played I usually bet/fold turn.

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04-28-2010, 05:24 PM

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Quote:

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1. Raise donk lead/get it in is likely best.

imo all this accomplishes is getting it in as a pretty massive underdog vs the reg and letting the fishes fold far too much. The backdoor draw really helps us too.

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04-28-2010, 05:40 PM

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imo all this accomplishes is getting it in as a pretty massive underdog vs the reg and letting the fishes fold far too much. The backdoor draw really helps us too.

This was my thinking at the time. But he did donk for only 1/2 pot, which in this case kinda seems more like thin value than a nut hand to me? Also, I'm giving massive odds to the fish by calling on a very drawy board, when they could possibly call worse if I raise.

Regarding KK hand... I'm fine with folding turn, but can we really fold the flop? Is his 3betting range strictly KK+ here? Do you not think he would ever cbet this flop with AK/QQ, or given we are deep, as a bluff?

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04-28-2010, 10:51 PM

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If it's thin value then we still don't need to raise since we will have him crushed. We do give the fish really good odds and we have to proceed with caution, but I think this is better than getting them both to fold 90% of the time. When the reg continues it's going to be by 3-betting, and he has a set enough that we have to fold so we don't even play well against his combo draws.

The KK hand, I'm biased by seeing the name of the reg but I think this is KK+ very often and possibly a bluff sometimes, but never AK/QQ unless you have weird history. I don't think the cbet is a bluff often at all when his 3bet is cold-called, so flop is a fold.

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04-28-2010, 11:33 PM

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I am literally setmining this preflop against CK unless either me/him has got really out of line recently. I'm being nitty about this but ime he's a pretty big nit and nits don't bluff in this spot. His value range is KK+. That makes your decisions pretty damn easy.

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05-03-2010, 08:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by caddie444

1. Raise donk lead/get it in is likely best.

A tight reg just led into 3 other players including an UTG pre-flop raiser on a drawy low card board. Flat seems ideal to see what's up with the hand.

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05-09-2010, 11:57 AM

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Too many hands!

In hand 1 i def agree with flatting the lead, easy fold now

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