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Old 04-10-2008, 07:12 PM     Post subject: $25NL, pocket 8's on semi scary board #1 (permalink)  
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Based on the conversations in another thread I don't think leading out on the turn here, as I did, is the best line.

However, if I had checked the turn what is the best line if villian then bets something in the range of $1.5 to $2?

Also, as played I would think that this has to be a fold on the river, correct?

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MP2 ($14.75)
MP3 ($27.95)
CO ($24.55)
Button ($16.60)
SB ($25)
BB ($24.55)
Hero ($40.35)
UTG+1 ($16.30)
MP1 ($23.55)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8, 8.
Hero calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Button raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($2.60) 5, 3, T (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($2.60) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.75, Button calls $1.75.

River: ($6.10) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $4, Hero ????
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Old 04-11-2008, 05:29 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Any reads or stats on villian?

Actually, I don't like the Limp/Call PF from UTG. That SCREAMS "I have a middle PP!" Raise it up!

Villians Check behind on flop is either weakness or a trap. It does give you a little license to bet that turn though, which IMHO is fine.

I would've also liked a blocking bet on the river, like $3.5 -- $4 or so since you started the post-flop aggression, but a check is also fine. Villian played this very weak overall, and unless his stats are like 5/3 or something, I'm calling his river "value" bet and not really worrying about it too much, the only strength he's shown was Pre-flop, and even that was mediocre. In a vacuum, this is a call for me.

Edit: Per your second question, had you checked turn and villian lead: It depends on your style I guess. Did you play your 88 just for set value? It looks like it, so just fold and move on. IMO both OP and Villian played this really passively.
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Villain looks like he has overcards or TT. There are a lot more overcard possibilities so I'd call the river. I also don't mind leading the turn since villain can easily be drawing to 6 outs.

Also, if I checked the turn I'd call and check river hoping he gives it up or bets small enough to call.

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Also, as played I would think that this has to be a fold on the river, correct?
what range do you put him on?
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I would raise this preflop and therefore bet the flop so you wouldn't be in this situation. Also, as Chris says, limp/calling in EP is so readable. I like the turn bet as played, and I think you now have to call the river. If you have any read on opp that would help a lot though.
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 you bet 77 and ace rag with a pair. If you think hes bad enough to call with worse then bet it.
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