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Old 07-02-2008, 12:52 AM     Post subject: $25NL - JJ facing Aggression pre-flop #1 (permalink)  
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BB was 55/27/10, but only through 11 hands. Based on limited stats for villain and the fact that the button (who was 46/8/2 thru 40 hands) is still left to act, do you flat call, fold or 4bet/push here?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J, J.
UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 4 folds, Button calls $1.25, 1 fold, BB raises to $3.25, UTG calls $3, Hero ????
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Old 07-02-2008, 12:55 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 I would take a flop
 
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 they're both half stacks so i re-raise hoping to get it in preflop

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 god nvm i'm fish it's 25nl - i would call

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 UTG seems terrible and BB seems so loose preflop I don't see why we shouldn't 4bet/call.
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UTG seems terrible and BB seems so loose preflop I don't see why we shouldn't 4bet/call.
I think it's close but we only have 11 hands on the BB who we are most likely to get it in with and he is 3betting an UTG+1 raise so I think it's better to just flat.
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BB is making a bet sizing mistake with a big hand here quite often unless he's one of those guys who makes small re-raises with like 77+/KQ+. Since you don't know, I'd call and play it carefully.
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Its just kinda hard to tell if he's deliberately 3-betting small for a reason, or if he just doesnt even realise he's 3-betting small.
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I think it's close but we only have 11 hands on the BB who we are most likely to get it in with and he is 3betting an UTG+1 raise so I think it's better to just flat.
This is what I was thinking and coupled with the fact that I was in good position I decided to flat call and play post flop.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J, J.
UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 4 folds, Button calls $1.25, 1 fold, BB raises to $3.25, UTG calls $3, Hero calls $2, Button calls $2.

Flop: ($13.10) 8, 8, A (4 players)
BB bets $5, UTG calls $4.75 (All-In), Hero (happily folds??)
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Even if you had KK (suppose you had called the 3bet which is not a good play) you have to fold here.
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I did fold.

BB had AQo and UTG had Q8o for the double
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J, J.
UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 4 folds, Button calls $1.25, 1 fold, BB raises to $3.25, UTG calls $3, Hero calls $2, Button calls $2.

Flop: ($13.10) 8, 8, A (4 players)
BB bets $5, UTG calls $4.75 (All-In), Hero (happily folds??)
looks perfect. Also, ignore stats over 11 hands
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