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Old 04-10-2008, 08:15 PM     Post subject: $25NL - 2 pair on scary board facing all-in #1 (permalink)  
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Villian's stats are 24/5/1 over 91 hands.

My thoughts during the hand were as follows:
Pre-flop - The table had been pretty passive so I had recently opened up my raising range from MP and later.

Flop - I called his bet because I really felt like if I improved on the turn that I could get some action from a pretty well disguised hand or steal it if checked to me.

Turn - I just can't imagine that a hand with a J in it would open shove here.

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UTG ($18.95)
UTG+1 ($25)
MP1 ($17.35)
MP2 ($30.60)
MP3 ($34.35)
CO ($24.65)
Hero ($24.90)
SB ($60)
BB ($12.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
3 folds, MP2 raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.10) , , (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets $3.75, Hero calls $3.75, BB folds.

Turn: ($10.60) (2 players)
MP2 bets $25.85 (All-In), Hero ???
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:09 PM #2 (permalink)  
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To me (pretty new to consistently playing 25nl)

I fold on the flop and definitely on the turn. On the flop I would think alot of my drawing cards are dirty. He could easily have a J here and be scared of a bunch of combo draws/ flush draws and do this open weird shove.
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 pre, you said open your raising range cuz they table is passive, that's bad. You called pre, which isn't terrible but I would like to see a caller or two first

flop is snap fold, you can't trust all your out cuz of the flush, and it would be super meh anyway.

turn snap fold. If you're ahead it's not by much.

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I have so much to learn. Swigg, I def want to chat sometime and will be online every chance I get.

Btw, even though it doesn't make a call the right move, I did call. Villian flipped over AQ and the board paired on the river to let him scoop the pot.
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 against retarded 25NL villains calling the turn prob isn't terrible cuz they're not pushing nut hands. In general, calling pre, and calling flop is super weak and -eV.

The key at 25NL is not to outthink/play your villains with marginal holdings, but to WTFPWN with strong starting hands and position.
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 pre-flop. In position with 8Ts 3-bet ldo!
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pre-flop. In position with 8Ts FOLD ldo!
The guy is raising 5% of hands the last thing I want to do is threebet.
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