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spoonitnow
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02-05-2008, 02:25 PM
Post subject: $200nl - I suck at Aces
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MP3 is loose/passive.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
SB ($195)
BB ($164)
UTG ($42.50)
Hero ($236.75)
MP1 ($181.30)
MP2 ($197)
MP3 ($207.85)
CO ($35)
Button ($270)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A , A .
UTG raises to $4, Hero raises to $10, 2 folds, MP3 calls $10, 4 folds, UTG calls $6.
Flop: ($33) 7 , J, 6 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $28, MP3 raises to $56, UTG calls $32.50 (All-In), Hero ...
What it do?
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
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Fnord
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Rondavu
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Your 3-bet amount sucks. Make it $12-$14. If they fold too much open up your 3-bet range. If you're too scared to 3-bet a wider range an appropriate amount when it's called for, then you don't deserve action when you 3-bet your premium hands. You'll have to settle for overall reduced action when you have a hand.
Sorry so harsh. Tough love.
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sweetlemon69
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over how many hands do you have him? Could be a set, I'd call for set value pf seeing as how your stack is pretty large. What do you guys think about a re-raise here? If a LP is betting/reraising , would you say it's generally a monster?
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by Rondavu
Your 3-bet amount sucks. Make it $12-$14. If they fold too much open up your 3-bet range. If you're too scared to 3-bet a wider range an appropriate amount when it's called for, then you don't deserve action when you 3-bet your premium hands. You'll have to settle for overall reduced action when you have a hand.
Sorry so harsh. Tough love.
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No offense taken. The seemingly small size of the 3-bet is because of the size of the min-raiser's stack, and my normal 3-bet against a min-raise is $14 with 100bb stacks. I figured that when it comes back around to the min-raiser, regardless of the other action, then I induce more mistakes with my 3-betting range from that player than if I raise to my normal $14.
In retrospect, I think a major flaw of my preflop play here is that it sets up spots where everyone left in the hand besides the min-raiser has excellent implied odds on me, plus position for the majority of villains. I feel like the mistakes I induce from the short stack are outweighed by the total shit-storm I set up for myself to play against post-flop.
The source of all of this is that I've been digging through that book Professional No-Limit and trying to set up some SPR ratios that I think will play well in certain spots, especially 3-bet pots, but I'm starting to think that there is a pretty big flaw in playing this way because in general it makes your preflop betting tip your hand way too much. However, I don't think that particular flaw is what gives me problems here.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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sweetlemon69
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over how many hands do you have him?
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? Curious. Also did you factor in post flop aggression when considering him a loose passive?
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by sweetlemon69
over how many hands do you have him?
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? Curious. Also did you factor in post flop aggression when considering him a loose passive? |
Yep
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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d0zer
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over how many hands do you have him?
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? Curious. Also did you factor in post flop aggression when considering him a loose passive? |
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How much do you extrapolate post-flop play from pre-flop play? Seems that could be a little dangerous to assume that a 50/5 is going to necessarily be loose passive postflop...
I've started to user PAHud's "aggression flop frequency" and "folded to flop bet" a lot more as I used to pretty much just use the PF numbers.
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BankItDrew
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Originally Posted by Rondavu
Your 3-bet amount sucks. Make it $12-$14. If they fold too much open up your 3-bet range. If you're too scared to 3-bet a wider range an appropriate amount when it's called for, then you don't deserve action when you 3-bet your premium hands. You'll have to settle for overall reduced action when you have a hand.
Sorry so harsh. Tough love.
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No offense taken. The seemingly small size of the 3-bet is because of the size of the min-raiser's stack |
Ignore the small stacking bastards, concentrate on the full stacks behind you.
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