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Old 03-16-2008, 04:53 PM     Post subject: $10NL hands -- specific questions #1 (permalink)  
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Godd@mn I still suck... I get in spots like these and bust the wrong move. Some specific questions (all UB $10NL FR). I'm running approx 14/10/3.

Hand #1:
Vil is 42/17/6 over 20 hands. Based on this, I give her a wide range for her blind minraise.
Q1: Should I have 3-bet her min-raise PF to isolate?
Q2: Should I have shoved over her on the Flop?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($8.60)
BB ($9.60)
UTG ($16.80)
Hero ($10.05)
MP1 ($3)
MP2 ($1.75)
CO ($13.50)
Button ($4.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q, Q.
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.5, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.50, 3 folds, BB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.40, MP2 calls $0.40.

Flop: ($2.85) 8, 4, 9 (3 players)
BB bets $2.75, Hero calls $2.75, MP2 folds.

Turn: ($8.35) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $5.95 (All-In), Hero calls $5.95.

River: ($0) T (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $20.25

Hand #2:
Vil 11.5/0/.5 over 30 hands. I think this hand is pretty standard but...
Q1: Given the passive nit, should I have put more weight on the 66 with the Turn min-raise?
Q2: I figured more likely to be over-pair, which is why I shoved over the Turn raise. Bad idea?

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MP2 ($6.45)
MP3 ($8.45)
CO ($8)
Button ($3.65)
SB ($9.70)
Hero ($10)
UTG ($7.35)
UTG+1 ($7.20)
MP1 ($8.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 3 folds, CO calls $0.10, Button raises to $0.2, SB calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10.

Flop: ($1) , , (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, UTG+1 folds, CO calls $1, Button folds, SB folds.

Turn: ($3) (2 players)
Hero bets $2, CO raises to $4, Hero raises to $10.8 (All-In), CO calls $2.80 (All-In).

River: ($16.60) (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $16.60
 
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Old 03-16-2008, 05:15 PM #2 (permalink)  
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in hand 2 I think you can discount a high PP from his range given the pf action. This would be a perfect scenario for limp-raising once button minraises and everyone calls. Plus, limping the CO after a bunch of limpers is just crazy, not that this can't happen, it just really reduces the likelihood of a high PP.

Unless I have a donkey read I would probably go into check-call mode most of the time. you may have kicker problems, you may be beat already, you may induce bluffs from worse hands. I guess you could be giving free cards to a FD, but that's not too bad here.

for some reason min 3-bets from the blinds from bad players tend to scare the bejeezus out of me. I think you played it pretty well. Maybe just push over the flop bet given stacks/drawy nature of the board, but overall if there is a wide 3-bet range I think you are fine. As long as the wide range includes more Ax's than SC's.
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Old 03-16-2008, 07:00 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand 1:
If he's drawing here, it's probably a combo draw (FD on the flop, turned a str8 draw). It's a situation where if you're ahead you're not ahead by much and if you're behind you're lucky to have 2 outs, but you're probably drawing dead. I think I muck the turn here.

Hand 2: When he min-raises the turn you have to decide whether you're going all the way or not. you don't have anything worth drawing to, so if you think you're good you push and if you don't you fold. I like the push here.
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