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spoonitnow
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10-20-2007, 05:34 PM
Post subject: $100nl vs cbet from tagg
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Villain is 14/7/3.0.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Hero ($109.30)
SB ($21.25)
BB ($23.30)
UTG ($107.65)
UTG+1 ($116.20)
MP1 ($67.50)
MP2 ($101)
CO ($16.50)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 7 , 8.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $3, 3 folds, Hero calls $3, 2 folds.
Flop: ($7.50) 4 , 5, 2 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $4, Hero ...
Assume first orbit at the table. How bad is a raise to say $15 here? I figure villain is on a fairly tight range, but I'm trying to get a feel for these types of spots.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
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I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Miffed22001
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id be thinking about how his range reacts to a flop raise and big turn bet when we are considered an unknown.
You can represent a set/fd and still have a money card for a straight.
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Warpe
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I'd want a read on his c-bet size. Def. looks like one so, yeah, I might try to pick him off here.
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Renton
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you can but don't make a habit of it.
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Warpe
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Originally Posted by Renton
you can but don't make a habit of it.
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Yeah, I wanted to say something in another of your threads from today. You seem enamoured with making plays. Are you trying to lagg it up more or are these hands atypical?
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Renton
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i make a fair few plays.
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Warpe
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Me, too, but I'm curious if he's adjusting his style.
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Renton
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lol i just realized you weren't referring to me
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spoonitnow
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In case warpe is referring to me, which I'm not really sure.
Most of the hands I post are atypical for one reason or another. In this hand I just called with SCs in position against a tagg which I do occasionally, but for this flop it brings up a situation that I don't encounter often, so I ask about it.
I'm not really switching up my mode of play so much as just trying to more actively improve myself as a player (read: increase my post count).
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by Warpe
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Originally Posted by Renton
you can but don't make a habit of it.
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Yeah, I wanted to say something in another of your threads from today. You seem enamoured with making plays. Are you trying to lagg it up more or are these hands atypical? |
you have to do enough in small pots with not a lot at stake just to encourage people to make a few plays/light call downs against you. Then we dont get the problem of people insta-folding every time we raise a flop/turn etc
I dont actually think raising and forcing a fold then showing is too bad here if your opp plays with you a fair bit
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Renton
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the reason i say not to make a habit is because this is a board where we are almost expected to be getting out of line a lot.
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by Renton
the reason i say not to make a habit is because this is a board where we are almost expected to be getting out of line a lot.
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True.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Warpe
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
you have to do enough in small pots with not a lot at stake just to encourage people to make a few plays/light call downs against you. Then we dont get the problem of people insta-folding every time we raise a flop/turn etc
I dont actually think raising and forcing a fold then showing is too bad here if your opp plays with you a fair bit
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I dunno about showing (I never do) but I agree with the rest a lot, Miffed, 'cause I do it quite a bit, esp. in early orbits. Laggy smallball is fun 
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