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spoonitnow
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05-22-2008, 07:03 PM
Post subject: $100nl - TT in LP v BB 3bet/4bet spot
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Straight Flush
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Villain is 15/13/4.5 and 3-bets from the blinds a lot against LP raises. He probably has me at about 17/14 with 40% attempt to steal.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
Hero ($93.90)
SB ($99)
BB ($107.50)
UTG ($133.50)
UTG+1 ($46.10)
MP1 ($103.15)
MP2 ($16.50)
CO ($150.45)
Preflop: Hero is Button with  ,  .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, BB raises to $16, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $40, BB raises to $107.5, Hero calls $53.90 (All-In).
Flop: ($189.30)  ,  ,  (2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: ($189.30)  (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($189.30)  (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $189.30
Results in white below:
BB has Ad 4d (two pair, sevens and fours).
Hero has Th Tc (two pair, tens and sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins $189.30.
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Warpe
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nh sir
define "a lot".
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aka_red
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nh sir
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results oriented imo.
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BigBadBull
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05-22-2008, 09:16 PM
Post subject: Re: $100nl - TT in LP v BB 3bet/4bet spot
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3-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Villain 3-bets from the blinds a lot against LP raises.
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yep. sure does.. LOL. now you know his range imo make note and move on.
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spoonitnow
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05-22-2008, 09:17 PM
Post subject: Re: $100nl - TT in LP v BB 3bet/4bet spot
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Villain 3-bets from the blinds a lot against LP raises.
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yep. sure does.. LOL. now you know his range imo make note and move on. |
I don't see how this hand by itself tells me "his range" except that it includes Ace-small suited once in a while.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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badgers
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you went with your read and you were right, there's no one who can tell you whether this was a good hand or not but your read proved right so on the face of it it looks good.
Who was villain?
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BigBadBull
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next time he repops you in the blinds i think ill give him a defferent range due to this situation
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BigBadBull
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yea i should have reprased that(gg reading own post after clicking "post" bttn). it gives you information/read not "range".
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allabout
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Spoon, curious what you did/would now think of as his range in this spot? Or did you believe he would do this with almost any 2 to make a stand against you? Against any pair or ATs+ or AK, AQo your about 60% so I guess that means good call. But against say the top 5% of his range your a dog.
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pokerfan
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4 bet or fold both fine but calling his shove i dont think is +EV for the long run. This guy probably went on tilt in the heat of the moment. Also, i sometimes resteal/4 bet light with SC or any other speculative cards vs these stats with the intention of folding to a shove.
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pgil
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Originally Posted by pokerfan
Also, i sometimes resteal/4 bet light with SC or any other speculative cards vs these stats with the intention of folding to a shove.
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that seems to be a bad idea. in my limited experience they tend to shove over 4bets pretty liberally, especially if you have laggy/semilaggy stats and a high att to steal.
I am also a little curious as to who opp was. I can only think of 1 or 2 people that were 4 or 5 betting at 100NL a few months ago, there may be more of them now.
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pokerfan
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i won't do that if i have loose aggressive image at the table and high attention to steal%. There are a few times i just flat called, float and took it down in later streets if villian cb, slow down or give up entirely. Another alternative is we might4 bet shove vs these guys if they are known to 5 bet shove light from blinds. SC, small pairs or Ace suited are good candidates in this situation and play well against big broadway cards and big pairs in case they do call our shove.
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Originally Posted by pokerfan
Also, i sometimes resteal/4 bet light with SC or any other speculative cards vs these stats with the intention of folding to a shove.
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that seems to be a bad idea. in my limited experience they tend to shove over 4bets pretty liberally, especially if you have laggy/semilaggy stats and a high att to steal.
I am also a little curious as to who opp was. I can only think of 1 or 2 people that were 4 or 5 betting at 100NL a few months ago, there may be more of them now. |
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