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spoonitnow
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10-18-2007, 05:00 PM
Post subject: $100nl Straight on Paired Board vs River Minraise
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP2 ($112)
CO ($100)
Button ($155.80)
SB ($196.20)
Hero ($114.95)
UTG ($108.35)
UTG+1 ($118.30)
MP1 ($41.50)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 , 7 . CO posts a blind of $1.
4 folds, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.
Flop: ($3) 9 , 6 , 5 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, CO calls $2, SB folds.
Turn: ($7) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, CO calls $6.
River: ($19) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $13, CO raises to $26, Hero ...
I feel like I should 3-bet this river. I don't think he flopped a set or two pair or he would have likely raised on the flop with the flush draw out there, and QQ is extremely doubtful. So then the only hand I think he would have that beats me is Q5, and I think he calls a 3-bet with any 5.
Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
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pokerfan
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10-18-2007, 06:15 PM
Post subject: Re: $100nl Straight on Paired Board vs River Minraise
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4-of-a-Kind
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i don't like to put me in some situations where you gotta make some tough decisions. If you 3-bet and he shove all-in on this paired board, what should you do? Maybe i'm gonna lose some profit but it just makes my subsequent decision-making much easier and clearer.
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Miffed22001
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what worse hands is opp calling a 3bet with?
i think none hence we call river.
CO obviously has a small pp here a whole lot surely, but not raising preflop is pretty weak.
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
what worse hands is opp calling a 3bet with?
i think none hence we call river.
CO obviously has a small pp here a whole lot surely, but not raising preflop is pretty weak.
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He posted the blind out of position so I don't think a PP is quite so obvious here.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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pokerfan
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some donks might slowplay 65, 95 and other junks, believe me.
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
what worse hands is opp calling a 3bet with?
i think none hence we call river.
CO obviously has a small pp here a whole lot surely, but not raising preflop is pretty weak.
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He posted the blind out of position so I don't think a PP is quite so obvious here.
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by pokerfan
some donks might slowplay 65, 95 and other junks, believe me.
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
what worse hands is opp calling a 3bet with?
i think none hence we call river.
CO obviously has a small pp here a whole lot surely, but not raising preflop is pretty weak.
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He posted the blind out of position so I don't think a PP is quite so obvious here.
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Then does he find a fold with 5x if I 3-bet?
If he posted the blind oop then I'm inclined to say no.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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martindcx1e
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if you are afraid of getting all-in then just call. if not then raise. personally, i'm afraid of getting all-in here so i call.
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archangel95
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
if you are afraid of getting all-in then just call. if not then raise. personally, i'm afraid of getting all-in here so i call.
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Me 2.
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Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by archangel95
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
if you are afraid of getting all-in then just call. if not then raise. personally, i'm afraid of getting all-in here so i call.
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your avatar rules.
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Originally Posted by martindcx1e
if you are afraid of getting all-in then just call. if not then raise. personally, i'm afraid of getting all-in here so i call.
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If we know why here, then we have a winner.
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Renton
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hmm...
call prob. Honestly i think it's closer to a fold than to a shove. Theres probably more combinations of boats than 5x.
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