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spoonitnow
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10-17-2007, 09:23 PM
Post subject: $100nl AQ on dangerous board
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) toolsHand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP1 ($49.50)
MP2 ($187.35)
CO ($63.65)
Button ($94.55)
SB ($98.60)
Hero ($101.25)
UTG ($126.10)
UTG+1 ($188.50)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A , Q .
UTG calls $1, 6 folds, Hero raises to $6, UTG calls $5.
Flop: ($12.50) Q , J, 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $10, UTG calls $10.
Turn: ($32.50) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $23, UTG calls $23.
River: ($78.50) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $73, Hero calls $62.25 (All-In).
Final Pot: $203
Do I have any reason to think I shouldn't call the river?
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
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Fnord
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I would check/shove this turn.
If his timer starts running, remember to laugh at him.
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Miffed22001
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give us a range baby!
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archangel95
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Hard to tell with out any HUD stats, but I think KQ is the only hand someone might limp call with that we beat here.
Any reads at all? Is he a decent player?
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by archangel95
Hard to tell with out any HUD stats, but I think KQ is the only hand someone might limp call with that we beat here.
Any reads at all? Is he a decent player?
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Just putting this out there but I don't think I've ever seen someone limp-call KQ that I remember.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Deanglow
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I like how you played it a lot. Definitely call this river; this is a missed draw most of the time. I don't like checking the turn on this drawy board at all.
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archangel95
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by archangel95
Hard to tell with out any HUD stats, but I think KQ is the only hand someone might limp call with that we beat here.
Any reads at all? Is he a decent player?
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Just putting this out there but I don't think I've ever seen someone limp-call KQ that I remember. |
So what hand do we beat that gets to the river then? I got my aces cracked by a genius that limp called KQ the other day from UTG so it definitely happens.
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wufwugy
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I would check/shove this turn.
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Explain please.
Seriously. I'll even pay for a really nice and thorough explanation if you want.
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by archangel95
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by archangel95
Hard to tell with out any HUD stats, but I think KQ is the only hand someone might limp call with that we beat here.
Any reads at all? Is he a decent player?
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Just putting this out there but I don't think I've ever seen someone limp-call KQ that I remember. |
So what hand do we beat that gets to the river then? I got my aces cracked by a genius that limp called KQ the other day from UTG so it definitely happens. |
Just saying I haven't seen it that I can remember, nor has it ever occured to me to do it.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by wufwugy
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I would check/shove this turn.
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Explain please.
Seriously. I'll even pay for a really nice and thorough explanation if you want. |
Meh, maybe it's the 6 max player in me. Draws don't take the free card often enough and our flop bet really doesn't define our hand. If it's checked through, I don't mind playing a small pot here.
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Renton
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i'd betfold the turn for 27, c/c this river obviously.
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spoonitnow
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When he called my turn bet I thought villain's range was mostly draws, with some Qx and the occasional 88 who is a dumbass for not raising at some point in the hand. The vast majority of this range that I beat on the river isn't calling anything (KQ or QT are all I beat that might call) and I'm getting it in if I'm beat either way. So a river check/call seemed obvious.
As for the turn check/raise all-in, I don't like it in this particular spot. Part of the reason is that I don't want to give any draw a free card here because of the massively draw-heavy board, but moreover draws are the overwhelming majority of hands I'm ahead of on the turn (along with KQ and other Qx if this guy's an idiot), and it seems [at least to me] that a bet extracts the most value from this range.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Miffed22001
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someone post a range for UTG that is beating AQ on the river plz.
Then somone post an UTg range for opp and lets stove it.
btw, i was with fnord, and insta-called the hand he had on AIM  L
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
someone post a range for UTG that is beating AQ on the river plz.
Then somone post an UTg range for opp and lets stove it.
btw, i was with fnord, and insta-called the hand he had on AIM L |
Yeah but it was your second guess so you fail.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
someone post a range for UTG that is beating AQ on the river plz.
Then somone post an UTg range for opp and lets stove it.
btw, i was with fnord, and insta-called the hand he had on AIM L |
Yeah but it was your second guess so you fail. |
aw dude i said xx or xx comeon love a homy...?
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spoonitnow
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No it was like
Miff: omfg i bet he had TT
Me: err
Miff: or wait KQ
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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archangel95
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
No it was like
Miff: omfg i bet he had TT
Me: err
Miff: or wait KQ
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LOL, so it was KQ?
Hand was played pretty strangely by villain.
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
No it was like
Miff: omfg i bet he had TT
Me: err
Miff: or wait KQ
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LOL, so it was KQ?
Hand was played pretty strangely by villain. |
Yeah KQ here.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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