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zaaaaaak
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05-14-2006, 10:09 PM
Post subject: $100 NL, correct play here?
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I play 6-max $100 NL on Bodog, which has a terrible hand history, but I remember the hand pretty well, so here we go:
I'm stacked at about $260, villain is a tight aggressive player and has me covered with about $320 in front of him. I pegged him as the only decent/sharky player at the table; other players were paying me off with crap.
I'm dealt:

I'm in the SB here, with a PF minraise by the villain to $2. I call and the BB calls as well. Three to the flop, $6 in the pot, villain with position.

I lead out for $5 here, BB calls, villain makes it $15 to go. I smoothcall, and BB folds.
Turn:

Not a particularly great card for my hand. It goes check, check.
River:

I boat up and this puts four spades on the board.
I lead out for $25, villain makes it $60 to go.
What is the correct play here, taking stack sizes into consideration?
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fal04: there's not too many hands i won't play for a quarter if i'm feeling it
fal04: i'll play 7-2 off if i feel it
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bair
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zaaaaaak
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Originally Posted by bair
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So what's your hand range for what he calls 180 more with that I can beat?
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fal04: there's not too many hands i won't play for a quarter if i'm feeling it
fal04: i'll play 7-2 off if i feel it
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renegaderob1
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I'm not a fan of the flop smooth call; would probably raise this.
I'm going to pass on commenting on the river because my gut says you are beat here, but I would normally push this as well
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Miffed22001
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If opp doesnt suck then i can understand calling on the flop but i think you 3 bet to 45-60ish oop to tell opp to push or give it up.
If he cold calls i guess you have to bet oop on the turn and love the river which leaves you enough in the pot and behind to push. If he shows you anything you get beaten by then he sucks.
With your hand you go broke on that river, without exception if you are beaten.
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bair
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looks like AxKs to me. i think a set wouldn't check behind on the turn because he would hate to see another spade. all in all im never laying a boat down on this board, and im never not raising that river, if i get stacked so be it, you're ahead way too much here to fold. and the fact that he minraised preflop makes me give him less credit for 99, QQ, AA. and theres also the possibility that he is bluffing the 4th spade...
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zaaaaaak
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Originally Posted by renegaderob1
I'm not a fan of the flop smooth call; would probably raise this.
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A key mistake I made in this hand. I tried to trap villain (putting him on a hand like AK) and assumed the BB would fold after villain's raise on the flop. I was right, but I failed to fire a turn bet after a scare card hit.
As a result of my poor flop play, I was left clueless to what my opponent was holding on the river.
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fal04: there's not too many hands i won't play for a quarter if i'm feeling it
fal04: i'll play 7-2 off if i feel it
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zaaaaaak
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Anyway, the result of the hand is I pushed and he instacalled with 9-9.
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fal04: there's not too many hands i won't play for a quarter if i'm feeling it
fal04: i'll play 7-2 off if i feel it
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EricE
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I am always pushing this river. No way I can assume I am beaten here.
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Stakes: Playing $0.10/$0.25 NL
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WhooFleuryScores
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I would either reraise more on the flop or open push.Too easy for villain to be value raising a FD.
That being said I call/push this river violently convulsing.......and your rrsults proved my gut correct unfortunatly.This is why I don';t like to stay at tables as a big stack too long because the mental trauma of losing it back is too painful for me to bear.
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Turska
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05-16-2006, 06:59 AM
Post subject: Easy to say afterwards
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But I think you should reraise flop. U just told that guy
was shark so how can he reraise you? What could he have?
AQ,
QQ,
99,
AK,
AA
33
He would not raise you 15 with ace on the flop with these.
TT
JJ
KK
AK is only hand u will win so only hand u beat after flop is AK.
I dont think he would reraise you with 15 with only TPTK given
your action.
So I guess you are beaten by nines.
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WildBobAA
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Yea, if you raise the flop you wouldn't be in this predicament.
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WildBobAA
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Originally Posted by bair
looks like AxKs to me.
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This is not AxKs in anyway. AxKs bets the turn for sure. Also, a "sharky" villian wouldn't min raise AK PF(although he did make a wierd raise w/ 99).
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