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Old 02-22-2007, 12:59 PM     Post subject: Some Gauntlet Game four nth level thinking #1 (permalink)  
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I was at level 2 and he must have been at level 3 or above!!!

This was a hand that eventually led to my demise last night. The button and SB steals had been relentless by everyone and I decided to see a flop and see if I could steal one from Meeloche as I would have position on him post flop.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero (t8103)
Button (t4929)
SB (t10968)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 4.
1 fold, SB raises to t600, Hero calls t400.

Flop: (t1200) K, 8, Q (2 players)
SB bets t650, Hero calls t650. Fully expected this and planned to call here and bet after his check on the turn.

Turn: (t2500) J (2 players)
SB bets t1000, Hero folds. WTF? Why the smallish bet? Is this a value bet or another stab at the pot? Did he actually pick up a $%^&%$# hand? If he hit his hand wouldn't he check and hope I took a stab at it? Should I raise here to test him? If I do I am damn near pot committed. Am I willing to go all the way with this crap? %^&&*(*%#$# , guess I will fold. GRRRRRRRR

Final Pot: t3500

Results in white below:
No showdown. SB wins t3500.

meeloche: shows [2 5 ] (high card King) Now I am on FULL TILT (ok, not really but mad that I had him PERFECTLY read and didn't trust it). NH sir!!!






In retrospect, once you take out the FPS the hand should have looked like this:

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Hero (t8103)
Button (t4929)
SB (t10968)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 4.
1 fold, SB raises to t600, Hero folds.
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Old 02-22-2007, 01:43 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Fish
FTR Name GP Pts
Anosmic 2 205.19
Anon.E.Moose 3 179.22
Puckstopper 2 174.98
cobere 2 159.47
GatorJH 2 136.58 <---fish
FlyingSaucy 2 128.95
mike4066 2 122.94
Fimanoid 3 112.65
Warpe 2 108.91
meeloche 1 106.33
Monty9 2 105.69
givememyleg 2 105.52
gus27 2 103.61
Phew72 2 103.59
Triptan3s 3 99.09
swiggidy 2 95.35
Da GOAT 2 88.55 <----minnow?

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Old 02-22-2007, 02:03 PM #4 (permalink)  
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FTR Name GP Pts
Anosmic 2 205.19
Anon.E.Moose 3 179.22
Puckstopper 2 174.98
cobere 2 159.47
GatorJH 2 136.58
FlyingSaucy 2 128.95
mike4066 2 122.94
Fimanoid 3 112.65
Warpe 2 108.91
meeloche 1 106.33
Monty9 2 105.69
givememyleg 2 105.52
gus27 2 103.61
Phew72 2 103.59
Triptan3s 3 99.09
swiggidy 2 95.35
Da GOAT 2 88.55
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Old 02-23-2007, 12:50 AM #6 (permalink)  
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The hand following this one where you got busted by meeloche soon after seemed a tad tilty if I remember right. I think you had ace high with a pair on the board and he had a pocket pair (deuces) plus the pair on the board and he moved you all in. The blinds were still incredibly small and I can't, for the life of me, figure out why you called there, other than tilt. The blinds were way too small and your M was still quite large... Am I wrong in thinking that was a wrong time to make the stand?

I think in the hand given, he was cbetting the flop and figured if you had something you would have reraised him there. That was a shitty time to be caught with your pants down. The turn bet was kind of standard too (with 3 players, he had first-in vigorish the whole time, a nice stack, cards irrelevant), given your weak call. FPS =/= win. When I saw this hand go down I thought for sure you folded a midpair and he outplayed you, but now, it's much more ugly.
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The hand following this one where you got busted by meeloche soon after seemed a tad tilty if I remember right. I think you had ace high with a pair on the board and he had a pocket pair (deuces) plus the pair on the board and he moved you all in. The blinds were still incredibly small and I can't, for the life of me, figure out why you called there, other than tilt. The blinds were way too small and your M was still quite large... Am I wrong in thinking that was a wrong time to make the stand?

I think in the hand given, he was cbetting the flop and figured if you had something you would have reraised him there. That was a shitty time to be caught with your pants down. The turn bet was kind of standard too (with 3 players, he had first-in vigorish the whole time, a nice stack, cards irrelevant), given your weak call. FPS =/= win. When I saw this hand go down I thought for sure you folded a midpair and he outplayed you, but now, it's much more ugly.
Actually, I pushed over his bet on the turn, but when I went back to look at the hand I realized that it WAS the worst hand I played that night. He had re-raised me pre-flop and bet the turn so I couldn't put him on air (especially after the last hand we had played).

I could have folded to his bet on the turn and still had an M of over 10 so it was definitely very donkish to push. I don't think I was on tilt, but just got impatient and thought I could push him off of the hand.

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Old 02-23-2007, 02:55 PM #8 (permalink)  
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PokerStars Game #8559816275: Tournament #42022394, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/02/21 - 22:24:08 (ET)
Table '42022394 2' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: alexos888 (2430 in chips)
Seat 2: swiggidy (922 in chips)
Seat 4: Triptanes (1365 in chips)
Seat 5: GatorJH (3235 in chips)
Seat 6: Puckst0pper (1560 in chips)
Seat 8: badandy519 (945 in chips)
Seat 9: meeloche (1543 in chips)
swiggidy: posts small blind 15
Triptanes: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Triptanes [7h 5h]
GatorJH: folds
Puckst0pper: folds
badandy519: folds
meeloche: folds
alexos888: raises 60 to 90
swiggidy: folds
Triptanes: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [3c Ts Ah]
Triptanes: checks
alexos888: bets 150
Triptanes: calls 150
*** TURN *** [3c Ts Ah] [4h]
Triptanes: checks
alexos888: bets 300
Triptanes: raises 825 to 1125 and is all-in
alexos888: folds
swiggidy said, "you have to give the chips to me or it won't work"
Triptanes collected 1095 from pot
Triptanes: shows [7h 5h] (high card Ace)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1095 | Rake 0
Board [3c Ts Ah 4h]
Seat 1: alexos888 (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: swiggidy (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Triptanes (big blind) collected (1095)
Seat 5: GatorJH folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Puckst0pper folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: badandy519 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: meeloche folded before Flop (didn't bet)



PokerStars Game #8560143741: Tournament #42022394, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/02/21 - 22:44:51 (ET)
Table '42022394 2' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: alexos888 (1545 in chips)
Seat 2: swiggidy (937 in chips)
Seat 4: Triptanes (2609 in chips)
Seat 6: Puckst0pper (2695 in chips)
Seat 8: badandy519 (1190 in chips)
Seat 9: meeloche (1388 in chips)
swiggidy: posts small blind 25
Triptanes: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Triptanes [2d 7s]
Puckst0pper: folds
badandy519: folds
meeloche: folds
alexos888: raises 100 to 150
swiggidy: folds
Triptanes: raises 2459 to 2609 and is all-in
alexos888: folds
alexos888 said, "owwww"
Triptanes collected 325 from pot
Triptanes: shows [2d 7s] (high card Seven)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 325 | Rake 0
Seat 1: alexos888 (button) folded before Flop
Seat 2: swiggidy (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Triptanes (big blind) collected (325)
Seat 6: Puckst0pper folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: badandy519 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: meeloche folded before Flop (didn't bet)



PokerStars Game #8560220456: Tournament #42022394, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/02/21 - 22:49:36 (ET)
Table '42022394 2' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: alexos888 (1320 in chips)
Seat 2: swiggidy (987 in chips)
Seat 4: Triptanes (2584 in chips)
Seat 6: Puckst0pper (2495 in chips)
Seat 8: badandy519 (1290 in chips)
Seat 9: meeloche (1688 in chips)
badandy519: posts small blind 50
meeloche: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Triptanes [Qs Qh]
alexos888: folds
swiggidy: folds
Triptanes: raises 198 to 298
Puckst0pper: folds
badandy519: folds
meeloche: raises 1390 to 1688 and is all-in
Triptanes: calls 1390
*** FLOP *** [2c 2d 4s]
meeloche said, "nh"
*** TURN *** [2c 2d 4s] [9h]
*** RIVER *** [2c 2d 4s 9h] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
meeloche: shows [9s 9d] (a full house, Nines full of Deuces)
Triptanes: shows [Qs Qh] (two pair, Queens and Deuces)
meeloche collected 3426 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3426 | Rake 0
Board [2c 2d 4s 9h Kc]
Seat 1: alexos888 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: swiggidy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Triptanes showed [Qs Qh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Deuces
Seat 6: Puckst0pper (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: badandy519 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: meeloche (big blind) showed [9s 9d] and won (3426) with a full house, Nines full of Deuces

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Old 02-23-2007, 03:05 PM #10 (permalink)  
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this game is bollox

no way is it

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this game is bollox

no way is it

Gator>LEG>Swig>GOAT

NO FUCKING WAY!!!!


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this game is bollox

no way is it

Gator>LEG>Swig>GOAT>Triptanes

NO FUCKING WAY!!!!


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Old 02-23-2007, 05:25 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Am I right in assuming most of you guys are turbo-monkeys? I mean, jesus christ, the BB was 200 when the final two guys ended up heads-up. That's a fast freaking game.

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I wasn't making that play to double up or see a flop, the two previous hands should show you why i made that move which is exactly what you wanted im sure, well played. I knew you probably wouldn't call with anything worse than ace queen or 1010 since my image at the time was pretty tight, (guess we can kiss that goodbye for next time) and i didn't think you were that strong, bad timing for me you actually had a big hand. I like to reraise med pairs like that oop in certain situations. I made a mistake and got lucky, your telling me you've never done that??



 
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I wasn't making that play to double up or see a flop, the two previous hands should show you why i made that move which is exactly what you wanted im sure, well played. I knew you probably wouldn't call with anything worse than ace queen or 1010 since my image at the time was pretty tight, (guess we can kiss that goodbye for next time) and i didn't think you were that strong, bad timing for me you actually had a big hand. I like to reraise med pairs like that oop in certain situations. I made a mistake and got lucky, your telling me you've never done that??
nah you made a good play, you were a favorite over triptanes range:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 71.896% 71.50% 00.39% 8896250346 48752970.00 { 99 }
Hand 1: 28.104% 27.71% 00.39% 3447844578 48752970.00 { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, A2o+, K2o+, Q2o+, J2o+, T2o+, 92o+, 82o+, 72o+, 62o+, 52o+, 42o+ }

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Am I right in assuming most of you guys are turbo-monkeys? I mean, jesus christ, the BB was 200 when the final two guys ended up heads-up. That's a fast freaking game.

Small BB is smaaaaalllllllllllll.
what?

16 people x 1500 chips = 24000 chips

so that's 12000 chips a piece is 60BB !!! That's almost what we started with.
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The button and SB steals had been relentless by everyone and I decided to start re stealing more rather than take a flop with total garbage that isn't ahead of anything.
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Am I right in assuming most of you guys are turbo-monkeys? I mean, jesus christ, the BB was 200 when the final two guys ended up heads-up. That's a fast freaking game.

Small BB is smaaaaalllllllllllll.
what?

16 people x 1500 chips = 24000 chips

so that's 12000 chips a piece is 60BB !!! That's almost what we started with.
Uhh... I only jumped in at the end, but at the end the blinds were 100/200 and 200/400. The three remaining had about 20xBB or way better. Why all the crazy pushy pushes? 20BB+ is wayyyyy comfortable for poker playing as opposed to these crazy shovey shove shoves.

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Am I right in assuming most of you guys are turbo-monkeys? I mean, jesus christ, the BB was 200 when the final two guys ended up heads-up. That's a fast freaking game.

Small BB is smaaaaalllllllllllll.
what?

16 people x 1500 chips = 24000 chips

so that's 12000 chips a piece is 60BB !!! That's almost what we started with.
Uhh... I only jumped in at the end, but at the end the blinds were 100/200 and 200/400. The three remaining had about 20xBB or way better. Why all the crazy pushy pushes? 20BB+ is wayyyyy comfortable for poker playing as opposed to these crazy shovey shove shoves.

Am I just totally weak? lollercopter.
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Guess I find that out in the coming week then, eh?
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