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Jes_Gru

12-16-2004, 02:53 PM Post subject: My demise in the tournament

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CARDSON
*********** # 124 **************
PokerStars Game #963656706: Tournament #3682864, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2004/12/15 - 23:34:20 (ET)
Table '3682864 2' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: JesGru (6277 in chips)
Seat 3: ERockDog (2128 in chips)
Seat 4: chanman83 (911 in chips)
Seat 5: skorpeo (884 in chips)
Seat 6: hypermegachi (2500 in chips)
Seat 7: DavSimon (3164 in chips)
Seat 8: FTRRules (1320 in chips)
Seat 9: cupandhandle (6816 in chips)
DavSimon: posts small blind 100
FTRRules: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JesGru [Kc 6c]
cupandhandle: folds
JesGru: raises 200 to 400
ERockDog: folds
chanman83: folds
skorpeo: folds
hypermegachi: folds
DavSimon: calls 300
FTRRules: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [8s Qc 5c]
DavSimon: checks
FTRRules: bets 920 and is all-in
JesGru: calls 920
DavSimon: folds
*** TURN *** [8s Qc 5c] [8h]
*** RIVER *** [8s Qc 5c 8h] [3h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FTRRules: shows [7d Qd] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
JesGru: shows [Kc 6c] (a pair of Eights)
FTRRules collected 3040 from pot

*********** # 139 **************
PokerStars Game #963695616: Tournament #3682864, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/12/15 - 23:43:54 (ET)
Table '3682864 2' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: JesGru (4882 in chips)
Seat 3: ERockDog (1903 in chips)
Seat 5: skorpeo (1318 in chips)
Seat 6: hypermegachi (1016 in chips)
Seat 7: DavSimon (4189 in chips)
Seat 8: FTRRules (3390 in chips)
Seat 9: cupandhandle (7302 in chips)
FTRRules: posts small blind 100
cupandhandle: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JesGru [Kd As]
JesGru: raises 400 to 600
ERockDog: raises 1278 to 1878 and is all-in
skorpeo: folds
hypermegachi: folds
DavSimon: folds
FTRRules: folds
cupandhandle: folds
JesGru: calls 1278
*** FLOP *** [6h 3d Td]
*** TURN *** [6h 3d Td] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [6h 3d Td 6d] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JesGru: shows [Kd As] (a pair of Sixes)
ERockDog: shows [9h 9s] (a full house, Nines full of Sixes)

*********** # 148 **************
PokerStars Game #963713393: Tournament #3682864, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/12/15 - 23:48:18 (ET)
Table '3682864 2' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: JesGru (1729 in chips)
Seat 3: ERockDog (4656 in chips)
Seat 6: hypermegachi (541 in chips)
Seat 7: DavSimon (5907 in chips)
Seat 8: FTRRules (6365 in chips)
Seat 9: cupandhandle (4802 in chips)
JesGru: posts the ante 25
ERockDog: posts the ante 25
hypermegachi: posts the ante 25
DavSimon: posts the ante 25
FTRRules: posts the ante 25
cupandhandle: posts the ante 25
FTRRules: posts small blind 100
cupandhandle: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JesGru [Tc As]
JesGru: raises 200 to 400
ERockDog: folds
hypermegachi: raises 116 to 516 and is all-in
DavSimon: folds
FTRRules: folds
cupandhandle: folds
JesGru: calls 116
*** FLOP *** [5s 3h Th]
*** TURN *** [5s 3h Th] [9s]
hypermegachi said, "NO OUTS FOR YOU"
*** RIVER *** [5s 3h Th 9s] [Jc]
hypermegachi said, "yay"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JesGru: shows [Tc As] (a pair of Tens)
hypermegachi: shows [Qh Qs] (a pair of Queens)
hypermegachi collected 1482 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1482 | Rake 0
Board [5s 3h Th 9s Jc]
Seat 1: JesGru showed [Tc As] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 3: ERockDog folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: hypermegachi showed [Qh Qs] and won (1482) with a pair of Queens
Seat 7: DavSimon (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: FTRRules (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: cupandhandle (big blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 152 **************
PokerStars Game #963722209: Tournament #3682864, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2004/12/15 - 23:50:30 (ET)
Table '3682864 2' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: JesGru (1238 in chips)
Seat 3: ERockDog (4481 in chips)
Seat 6: hypermegachi (2182 in chips)
Seat 7: DavSimon (5582 in chips)
Seat 8: FTRRules (6140 in chips)
Seat 9: cupandhandle (4377 in chips)
JesGru: posts the ante 25
ERockDog: posts the ante 25
hypermegachi: posts the ante 25
DavSimon: posts the ante 25
FTRRules: posts the ante 25
cupandhandle: posts the ante 25
DavSimon: posts small blind 100
FTRRules: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JesGru [Th 9h]
cupandhandle: folds
JesGru: raises 200 to 400
ERockDog: calls 400
hypermegachi: folds
DavSimon: folds
FTRRules: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [6s Qh 8c]
FTRRules: checks
JesGru: bets 200
ERockDog: calls 200
FTRRules: folds
*** TURN *** [6s Qh 8c] [5s]
JesGru: bets 613 and is all-in
ERockDog: calls 613
*** RIVER *** [6s Qh 8c 5s] [Kh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JesGru: shows [Th 9h] (high card King)
ERockDog: shows [Ah Jc] (high card Ace)
ERockDog collected 3076 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3076 | Rake 0
Board [6s Qh 8c 5s Kh]
Seat 1: JesGru showed [Th 9h] and lost with high card King
Seat 3: ERockDog showed [Ah Jc] and won (3076) with high card Ace
Seat 6: hypermegachi (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: DavSimon (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: FTRRules (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: cupandhandle folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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a500lbgorilla

12-16-2004, 02:59 PM

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You last hand. Fold preflop. You're in no position to blind steal and don't have the chips to invest in playing suited connectors properly. Though it is my favorite hand, let 'em go. Post flop, you have no chips to make him fold. Especially since you lead him in with the weak flop bet. Though it looked like you were playing a monster, you never really put your opponent to a difficult decision.

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Corey

12-16-2004, 03:15 PM

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alot of preflop raising that didnt go your way.

Corey

skorpeo

12-16-2004, 04:24 PM

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The first two hands hurt, I was there. You called an all-in on a draw. You had a 40% chance of winning. You weren't a favorite. In the second hand you were in a classic coin flip. You must have known the other player had a likely pair. Any pair and you are a slight underdog. any other two connected cards and you are only a 60-40 favoeire. I probably would have made the AK call(and lost), but I rarely push a flush draw.
You did finish ahead of me by the way.

The race doesn't always go to the fastest or the strongest but it's a pretty good bet.

TylerK

12-16-2004, 09:19 PM Post subject: Re: My demise in the tournament

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jes_Gru

Seat 1: JesGru (6277 in chips)
Seat 8: FTRRules (1320 in chips)

FTRRules: bets 920 and is all-in
JesGru: calls 920

Calling this with a flush draw on the flop is fine with these stacks.

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michael1123

12-17-2004, 01:01 AM

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Good post flop play throughout, in my opinion, but I think you could tweak your play a little bit to improve your results.

The only thing that really concerns me is that you minraise preflop on each of these hands except when you have AK, and then you raise 3xBB. It seems like you're giving away too much information about your hand strength through the size of your raises here. Stick with one amount to preflop raise to (2.5xBB or 3xBB preferably), or vary the amount you raise based on position and the number of limpers and not based on hand strength.

The first and the last hands are hands that are iffy to play from early position. If you do play them, I think its better to either limp or raise more.

On the first hand particularly, I doubt Ttanaka would've even called and seen a flop if you had raised to 600. But, your post flop play is fine, you gotta call that bet. You had 12 outs, making it basically an equal race between you two.

The AK hand is perfect, just lost a coinflip.

The AT hand is fine, just would've raised to 600 again, but it wouldn't have changed anything.

And with the last hand, you only have a stack of about 5xBB. At this point it should be all in for fold for every hand I think. AJ likely would've called you, but at least he would've had a decision to make. Also, if you're going to play it like that preflop, shove in on the flop and make him make a more difficult decision, or check fold. I probably would've just folded preflop here though, as you have enough of a stack to go around again and possibly find a better hand to shove with, but its fine to go with this one too.

Good game though, man. I'm kind of nitpicking here, because the cards obviously didn't go your way in these hands, but I think their negative impact could've been lessened by being a bit more aggressive preflop.

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