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Looking back at a hand I played from Game 6

  
 
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Old 12-14-2005, 03:41 PM     Post subject: Looking back at a hand I played from Game 6 #1 (permalink)  
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I'm reviewing this history a week after it happened, and I saw this hand, and even though I misrepresented my strength on the flop, I'm thinking I might have been able to call this all in. It wasn't a bad decision to fold, but I wanted to know what anyone else might think or do in this hand?

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PokerStars Game #3271303448: Tournament #16023896, Hold'em No Limit -
Level II (15/30) - 2005/12/07 - 22:29:42 (ET)
Table '16023896 1' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 3: xxJimmyMacxx (2940 in chips)
Seat 4: xAplomadox (1295 in chips)
Seat 6: lambchopdc (1670 in chips)
Seat 7: Wrappa (2140 in chips)
Seat 8: midas006 (1760 in chips)
Seat 9: HitMePat (2425 in chips)
Wrappa: posts small blind 15
midas006: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Wrappa [7s 7c]
HitMePat: folds
xxJimmyMacxx: folds
xAplomadox said, "alright forget this"
xAplomadox said, "i'm check folding to the top five"
xAplomadox: folds
lambchopdc: raises 60 to 90
xxJimmyMacxx said, "lol"
Wrappa: calls 75
midas006: folds
*** FLOP *** [3h 8d Ts]
Wrappa: checks
xxJimmyMacxx said, "how far down do the points go>"
HitMePat said, "Maybe ic an make my first gauntlet final table tonight
*flex*"
lambchopdc: bets 180
xxJimmyMacxx said, "i got like, 12th"
xxJimmyMacxx said, "in one"
Wrappa: raises 220 to 400
HitMePat said, "me too 12th is my best"
HitMePat said, "but i only have 2 so far"
xAplomadox said, "well you're going to do at least that tonight"
lambchopdc: raises 1180 to 1580 and is all-in
Wrappa: folds
xAplomadox said, "with 12 people remaining currently"
midas006 said, "no check raises here"
lambchopdc collected 1010 from pot
lambchopdc: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1010 | Rake 0
Board [3h 8d Ts]
Seat 3: xxJimmyMacxx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: xAplomadox folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: lambchopdc (button) collected (1010)
Seat 7: Wrappa (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: midas006 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: HitMePat folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 12-14-2005, 04:55 PM #2 (permalink)  

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Old 12-14-2005, 07:22 PM #3 (permalink)  
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My reanalysis of the hand is this. I call his raise. He pets the pot on the flop. This might be a buy with AQ AK. I reraise and then he goes all the way over. If he had a big pocket pair, I don't think he would have bet out on this hand. If he had AT or KT, I don't think you bet the pot in this situation. Looking at it now, over the top seems like a protection move or a fast played set. I'm not sure if he would have fast played a set here, but had he made the set, he could have smooth called the reraise, checked the turn and induce a bluff on the river for max payout...
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Old 12-14-2005, 08:15 PM #4 (permalink)  
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If he had a big pocket pair, I don't think he would have bet out on this hand. If he had AT or KT, I don't think you bet the pot in this situation.
I don't think it's unreasonable for either of these scenerios to be true. Why wouldn't you bet pot with AT or KT here? You're vulnerable with a top pair ten. As for high overpockets betting this way, you definately see it because they're sniffing out a set by saying "I have something big, so don't screw with me without something bigger". Also, JJ plays this way most often.
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:05 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by fade177
My reanalysis of the hand is this. I call his raise. He pets the pot on the flop. This might be a buy with AQ AK. I reraise and then he goes all the way over. If he had a big pocket pair, I don't think he would have bet out on this hand. If he had AT or KT, I don't think you bet the pot in this situation. Looking at it now, over the top seems like a protection move or a fast played set. I'm not sure if he would have fast played a set here, but had he made the set, he could have smooth called the reraise, checked the turn and induce a bluff on the river for max payout...
Why wouldn't he have bet out with a big overpair here? If you're slowplaying a monster here then you are not going to get paid off much by checking the flop and betting the turn. I think the over the top was a "I think I have a better hand than you but I have no idea if you are just on somecrap ass draw so pay up now pretty boy if you wanna chase" hand. Then again, maybe he just wants you to think that and has nuttin.
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