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When does Gauntlet IV begin?
Some suggestions:
Provide more incentives for players later in the season so that the one's with fewer points will want to keep playing.
Increase the points percentages for 6-x. 1% and 2% isn't enough.
Let everyone know if there's going to be a top 10 TOC right at the start so people will have this extra to play for even if they are in the 11-20 (or lower) range.
Finally (and most controversial): If a player enters at least one game and then doesn't play in at least 8 games throughout the season (assuming there are at least that many games remaining) make them ineligible for the following season. This may ensure better turnouts each week and give us more committed (as opposed to those who have already been committed - eh muxy  ) players.
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Finally (and most controversial): If a player enters at least one game and then doesn't play in at least 8 games throughout the season (assuming there are at least that many games remaining) make them ineligible for the following season. This may ensure better turnouts each week and give us more committed (as opposed to those who have already been committed - eh muxy ) players. |
Cutting off nose to spite face. You'll always have casual players who will just want to try it out. Take their buy-ins and be happy. Also, if someone donks out in a few tourneys and gives up on it, don't make it impossible for them to come back for more punishment the next time around. Carrots, not sticks.
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02-25-2006, 10:26 PM
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When does Gauntlet IV begin?
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If we follow the schedule for Gauntlet I and II, Gauntlet IV will probably be sometime in the Summer months, ending late August/early September. That's just an estimate, though.
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How about this for a change:
We play 1 gauntlet every month. Once a month.
This will force a bigger turnout. Bigger fields means more fun amirite? Have it running over the whole year.
Props to DoGGz for thinking of this.
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How about this for a change:
We play 1 gauntlet every month. Once a month.
This will force a bigger turnout. Bigger fields means more fun amirite? Have it running over the whole year.
Props to DoGGz for thinking of this.
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Horible Idea.
I will post something when i sober up.
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How about adding one " other" game that is not NL. LHE, PLO, PLO8/B - LO8/B , Stud - Stud 8/B , something.
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Field mice are fast, but owls can see in the dark.
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How about adding one " other" game that is not NL. LHE, PLO, PLO8/B - LO8/B , Stud - Stud 8/B , something.
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I think this would do more to decrease entrant numbers than it would to increase them.
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02-26-2006, 03:32 PM
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When does Gauntlet IV begin?
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If we follow the schedule for Gauntlet I and II, Gauntlet IV will probably be sometime in the Summer months, ending late August/early September. That's just an estimate, though. |
Why wait so long?
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How about this for a change:
We play 1 gauntlet every month. Once a month.
This will force a bigger turnout. Bigger fields means more fun amirite? Have it running over the whole year.
Props to DoGGz for thinking of this.
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Ugh. No props from me for this idea.
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How about adding one " other" game that is not NL. LHE, PLO, PLO8/B - LO8/B , Stud - Stud 8/B , something.
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I wouldn't mind having more tournaments with those games but as separate events, like the PLO we had this month.
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02-26-2006, 05:30 PM
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It won't be that long.
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How about this for a change:
We play 1 gauntlet every month. Once a month.
This will force a bigger turnout. Bigger fields means more fun amirite? Have it running over the whole year.
Props to DoGGz for thinking of this.
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In Season I, we did 1 game a week, alternating between Sunday and Wednesday. That wasn't frequent enough. Players were eager to play and others would forget that there was a game and not show up because it wasn't frequent enough.
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I think we should change the point system like the PokerStars TLB point system.
We have our regular hold'em games on Wednesdays and Sundays.
But we have a wild card game on every second Friday nights that have 1/2 the points awarded so if 1st place was 100 points. It would be 50 for the wildcard game each week would be different LHE Holdem, Omaha, and an extra bonus these games don't count towards the max of 12 games. But you don't get full points but you get a few.
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1) Scoring goes to the Stars TLB system.
2) One event each of Stud, Stud H/L, LHE, Omaha, Omahah H/L and 2 of the events you score points in must be from one of these forms of poker.
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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Someone link me to the PokerStars TLB chart?
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http://www.pokerstars.com/tlb_tournament_rankings.html
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I hate math.
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I would volunteer my serivices to do statsi n excel for buy ins to the 12 games.
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download the spreadsheet.
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Link to the spreadsheet?
Regardless, the numbers don't actually have to be crunched manually. AvatarKava, thankfully, can program it in so it's done automatically based on the tourney report.
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Link to the spreadsheet?
Regardless, the numbers don't actually have to be crunched manually. AvatarKava, thankfully, can program it in so it's done automatically based on the tourney report.
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It's on the same page.
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Link to the spreadsheet?
Regardless, the numbers don't actually have to be crunched manually. AvatarKava, thankfully, can program it in so it's done automatically based on the tourney report.
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This was my first shot at The Gauntlet, but I like the structure!
Perhaps you could cap the number of entrants in each event to encourage players to enter the tournaments sooner, and spread the play out a little as this would prevent huge tourneys at the start and nobody at the end. It is sad that we had a 4 player tournament.
Just my two cents...
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Is it really that difficult to say "nice hand" when someone beats you? For God's sake, show a little class...
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Ive psoted it twice now. Rotter post whores more than me.
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Hey Hey Hey..... Just wondering if there was yet any news as to Gauntlet IV..... I actually only discovered FTR before the last game of G III and have been patiently waiting for the Tournameny of Champions to end so I could get in on a full Gauntlet of action
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same here, i missed the gauntlet last year and was looking forward to it this year..
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Please sign up in the Registration thread if you haven't already.
Season IV will be getting under way before summer. Don't miss out!
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Please sign up in the Registration thread if you haven't already.
Season IV will be getting under way before summer. Don't miss out on getting beat down by WildBobAA!
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Xianti, do we need to re-register like we have in the past, or are season III people still good?
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I'm using the same Registration thread for Season IV, so if you registered for Season III, you don't need to do it again.
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Fantabulous.
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Xianti,
what is the schedule like for this years gauntlet? are games played weekly? are any played on Monday AM, by any chance?
also, what is the buy in for gauntlet tourneys?
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Xianti,
what is the schedule like for this years gauntlet? are games played weekly? are any played on Monday AM, by any chance?
also, what is the buy in for gauntlet tourneys?
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I'm assuming he hasn't made the schedule yet. The games should be twice a week though, and the buyin will be $11 if we're staying at Stars.
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Rather than sunday, could the matches be on saturday for G4?
Sunday is monday for those of us in the southern hemisphere which means we don't get a chance to play if we work and it would be nice to have a chance to smackdown some of you upstarts 
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Yes. We'll be moving the weekend games back to Saturday.
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Yes. We'll be moving the weekend games back to Saturday.
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Coolness, thanks...time to go sign up to PokerStars I guess 
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Yes. We'll be moving the weekend games back to Saturday.
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Ew, really? 
Can we have some on Sat and some on Sun?
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Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.
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Yes. We'll be moving the weekend games back to Saturday.
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Ew, really?
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The only real problem with that Courtie is that for anyone that can only play on saturday (and to put it into perspective say 3pm Sunday PST for NA is 8am Monday for Australia) would not be able to justify playing in the gauntlet if there were some played on sunday and some on saturday.
If there were 1/2 the weekend played on saturday and 1/2 on sunday then that means any southern hemisphere players that work could only play in 1/2 the tournaments and so have no reason to play as it owuld not be possible to have a realistic shot at winning the gauntlet.
For those players in NA that can't play on saturday then you still have th chance to make up that missed match by playing on wednesday, an option we don't have.
Having said that, I don't know if I'm the only player a chance from sunday to saturday would impact, and if so then don't stress it to much if sunday is a better day for the majority of the players.
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Thats why there is generally 24 events in which you can only play 12 for points. At least that is how it was done last season.
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Yes but the point is,for people in NA they have the choice of playing 12 out of 24, for people in the southern hemisphere we have the choice of playing 12 out fo 12 if they are on saturday or 6 out of 12 if 1/2 the weekend events are on saturday (or 0 from 24 if the weekend event is only on sunday)
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Your point was it was impossible to win the guantlet cause you couldnt play all of the games and I was stating that you could play the full amount allowed.
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Field mice are fast, but owls can see in the dark.
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And my point was that I couldn't play all the games allowed.
24 games played, 12 on wednesday, 12 on weekend.
Out of that a player can play a maximum of 12 games.
For a NA player they can play in any 12 of the 24 games assuming they don't work nights.
For an Australian/NZ/SE Asian player that works days the wednesday matches are out as that is around 8am Thursday start so there are 12 games gone straight away we can't play. If the weekend game is on saturday US time then that will be around 8am Sunday start and possible to play all 12 if we make the effort.
If 6 of the games are on sunday US time then that is 8am monday for us and again not possible to play in so we are left with being able to play a maximum of 6 out of 12 games rather than the 12 out of 12 the NA players can make.
I still stand by my contention that it is impossible for a working Southern Hemisphere player to have a realistic shot at winning the gauntlet if the weekend matches are split 50/50 saturday/sunday and I can't see how anyone could reasonably say that anyone could win it using points from only 6 games against people using points from 12 games.
Again though, if I'm the only person it affects then just feel free to ignore the issue, I'll understand.
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And my point was that I couldn't play all the games allowed.
24 games played, 12 on wednesday, 12 on weekend.
Out of that a player can play a maximum of 12 games.
For a NA player they can play in any 12 of the 24 games assuming they don't work nights.
For an Australian/NZ/SE Asian player that works days the wednesday matches are out as that is around 8am Thursday start so there are 12 games gone straight away we can't play. If the weekend game is on saturday US time then that will be around 8am Sunday start and possible to play all 12 if we make the effort.
If 6 of the games are on sunday US time then that is 8am monday for us and again not possible to play in so we are left with being able to play a maximum of 6 out of 12 games rather than the 12 out of 12 the NA players can make.
I still stand by my contention that it is impossible for a working Southern Hemisphere player to have a realistic shot at winning the gauntlet if the weekend matches are split 50/50 saturday/sunday and I can't see how anyone could reasonably say that anyone could win it using points from only 6 games against people using points from 12 games.
Again though, if I'm the only person it affects then just feel free to ignore the issue, I'll understand.
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i agree, i mean i live on east coast us so it doesnt affect me, but maybe the games could be staggered a bit just incase people have obligations on the same day of the week; weekly...it would help more people than just those in difficult time zones
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And my point was that I couldn't play all the games allowed.
24 games played, 12 on wednesday, 12 on weekend.
Out of that a player can play a maximum of 12 games.
For a NA player they can play in any 12 of the 24 games assuming they don't work nights.
For an Australian/NZ/SE Asian player that works days the wednesday matches are out as that is around 8am Thursday start so there are 12 games gone straight away we can't play. If the weekend game is on saturday US time then that will be around 8am Sunday start and possible to play all 12 if we make the effort.
If 6 of the games are on sunday US time then that is 8am monday for us and again not possible to play in so we are left with being able to play a maximum of 6 out of 12 games rather than the 12 out of 12 the NA players can make.
I still stand by my contention that it is impossible for a working Southern Hemisphere player to have a realistic shot at winning the gauntlet if the weekend matches are split 50/50 saturday/sunday and I can't see how anyone could reasonably say that anyone could win it using points from only 6 games against people using points from 12 games.
Again though, if I'm the only person it affects then just feel free to ignore the issue, I'll understand.
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Based on that then there is only 1 day and time that would suit everyone in AU/NE (btw, you're not the only place in the southern hemisphere. there are plenty of others that are SH and are in a better time zone relative to the Gauntlet). Sometimes in life we are faced with decisions that have no easy answers. The Gauntlet is not the end all, be all of online tournaments so you may have to choose another one that has starting days and times more to your liking.
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I'm not happy about this.
I'm usually busy on Saturday evenings with either friends/family staying over or me and my family visiting them and thus not at home.
The mid-week games are complete no-nos as they start at about three o'clock in the morning.
The Sunday games were just right. If we'd been away I was usually home in time for an eight o'clock start because the kids are in bed by seven. Gives me time to eat and play!
Please don't change back to Saturday games.
Video/DVD recorders are useful if it's football matches that you are changing the scehdule for.
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I'm new around here so feel free to laugh at this proposition. How about changing the number of games and or length of season? say schedule 36 tourneys, but keep the twelve game limit and schedule games for three nights per week. or even rotating the days say monday, wednesday, saturday one week and tuesday, Thursday, Sunday, the next. This gives players some flexibility to make time for tournaments.
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I'm new around here so feel free to laugh at this proposition. How about changing the number of games and or length of season? say schedule 36 tourneys, but keep the twelve game limit and schedule games for three nights per week. or even rotating the days say monday, wednesday, saturday one week and tuesday, Thursday, Sunday, the next. This gives players some flexibility to make time for tournaments.
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It's not a bad idea; unfortunately, the more tournaments there are, the smaller the field per tournament and easier it is for those with a lot of free time to try to 'pick and choose' weaker fields to play against.
If we had 100 people regularly playing every week I'd be all for this. As is, we barely got two tables sometimes last season. Hopefully that will improve this year.
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I'm not happy about this.
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Get rid of your friends and family. Invite them all out to a restaurant, and then stay home and play gauntlett.
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