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Pelion
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03-11-2006, 03:00 PM
Post subject: Entry conditions
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,206
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Seems like loads of people have registered who have never even posted. Seems kinda weird to me, and I thought this was ment to be an FTR thing.
It doesnt particularly bother me but I wondered what everyone else thought about this.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Warpe
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Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Canuckistan
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You could argue that the Gauntlet attracts new members, but I don't think it's the reason people come to FTR. Mebbe make high card posters ineligible?
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Muxy
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Canadian LOLUH'S AND AMERICAN LOLUHS
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Well, If you are going to have it like last year with any 12- of 24 games i dont think there should be a restriction.
BUT
If you have a poker souperstars think I think that they should hve to meet a requirment plus everyone should front like 25 to the prize.
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donkbee
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WELP
Join Date: May 2005
Location: so close but so far
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Gauntlet DOES attract new members. The trick is to get them to like our forum enough to keep posting after they register. Letting people who have never posted before play in the games lets them get to know the people around here and maybe decide to become regular posters. This is another reason our games have to be friendly and good-natured when we actually play them (our table chat makes an impression amongst the new people).
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.
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swiggidy
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4-of-a-Kind
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I voted no. No particular reason. Really I don't know what I'm talking about. If you can delete my vote and go for the possible unanimous decision go for it.
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donkbee
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WELP
Join Date: May 2005
Location: so close but so far
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Originally Posted by swiggidy
If you can delete my vote and go for the possible unanimous decision go for it.
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 Why would anyone do that?
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.
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I've always said it, the requirement for entry into the Gauntlet should be 5 posts on FTR.
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Xianti
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Administrator
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Logistically, it would take me a much longer time (pain-in-the-ass) to check how many posts a registrant has and, if they qualify, allow them into the Gauntlet usergroup and have access to the passwords and add them to the roster.
That's really the main reason I hadn't screened anyone before. If anyone has any ideas for making such a screening process as painless as possible for me, I'm all ears.
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Pelion
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Originally Posted by Xianti
Logistically, it would take me a much longer time (pain-in-the-ass) to check how many posts a registrant has and, if they qualify, allow them into the Gauntlet usergroup and have access to the passwords and add them to the roster.
That's really the main reason I hadn't screened anyone before. If anyone has any ideas for making such a screening process as painless as possible for me, I'm all ears.
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In the forum where they post their names, look at their postcount.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Xianti
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You simply don't understand what I'm saying, Pelion.
Anyway, I've thought about this. I don't think we're quite big enough to start screening people. If I do that, then you'll all start complaining about the lack of attendance per game. As it is, we had one game in Season III with only 4 players. That's ridiculous.
Also, the Poker Superstars format would be fun and I'd like to try something like that (or other creative formats) in the future, but again, I don't think we have a large enough pool of players to commit to such a rigid schedule.
We had over 300 players register for Season III. And yet, we still averaged maybe 20 players per game. Think about that.
That's better than Season I, where we averaged 10 players per game. But we're not ready yet to start messing around with formats that require commitment from a lot of people or to start screening players.
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Pelion
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4-of-a-Kind
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Xianti
You simply don't understand what I'm saying, Pelion.
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nope 
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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DavSimon
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Full House
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mount Holly, NC
Posts: 813
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The issue with the 1 post folks was the freerolls in season two. Everybody and thier brother came out from under a rock to play a freeroll which heavily weighted those tourneys....yes you still had to win them but if you had a bad day at poker in a free roll event with 50-60 people when all the other events had 12-15 people you had to make up a lot of ground. If people are paying thier $11, I really don't care if they have 1, 5 or 500 posts. Put the restrictions on the TOC and and other "special" events....but I think the gauntlets should be left open....when are some of the newer less experience players going to have the opportunity to play with the older ones, if not in the gauntlet.....kinda the point isnt it...."throwing down the gauntlet"
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EasyT
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Yo Mamma
Posts: 834
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Xianti already announced that there will be no freerolls next gauntlet, so all of the above will be a non issue. If a newbie wants to show up and play, more power to him.
Though, I must warn you that if you PWN X-man in a Gauntlet, you post count might go way, way down.... :P http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ghlight=xianti
"unintentional" grumblegrumble "nothing I can do" grumblegrumble... :P
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midas06
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NZ
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What about people who reg for the gauntlet, then only post in the gauntlet forum?
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Smack29
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: St. Charles, Iowa
Posts: 60
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DavSimon is right, the freerolls attract the most..
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Xianti
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No more freerolls in our league.
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ihategnomes
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Full House
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 1,225
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We could just setup a web-based form for people to apply, instead of applying in a forum post. This way we could actually do verification against the FTR database to check post costs or whatever. This would also reduce the administrative overhead. If you wanted to run with the ball, you could also just e-mail the people the passwords for the guantlet each week via a schedueled cron job. All of this is pretty simple. Let me know if I can be of assistance in the matter.
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<Bbickes> i still wanna know if the thing in your avatar is a real chick or not
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Lukie
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: back with a vengeance
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I think screening people when there was a huge problem with attendance last season is absurd.
Plus, I'd imagine at least part of FTR's reason for doing the gauntlet is to attract new members...
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Monty9
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Flush
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: new jwesey
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Hey all,
I started playing the Gauntlet after finding your forum. That's how I heard about it.
How many noobies do we get from outside the forum?
As it has been said with over 300 registered the attendance is still way too low a lot of the times.
Yes you will get the idiots or the one time curiosity player and you will pick up guys like me.
And really what is the problem with new blood and dead money in the tourneys?
Plus keep in mind that most of us play poker when its convienient to us, when time allows. It is hard for most to set the Gauntlet as a priority over other things. I know I got some dirty looks on Sundays from the wife when I sat down and said "no I'm not eating with you tonight I'm playing poker".
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Laramie
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05-11-2006, 11:09 PM
Post subject: Playing The FTR Gauntlet
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#20 (permalink)
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2
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Well, I am one of your new members attracted to the site originally by your Forum which I found as part of a Google search. I don't remember what exactly it was I was doing the search on but it was probably while working on learning to "read" hands. I found the information for the most part quite helpful and picked up ideas that created new thoughts on my game. As usual, incorporating new ideas into my game caused a downturn in earnings but I have had this happen so many times I expect it. I also expect that there may come a time when I will be a strong enough player to incorporate new strategies without this downturn occurring. If you want new people to post you might want ot help them get their feet wet. Perhaps an "Introduce Yourself" thread (call it "Get To Know Me!") would be a useful and easy avenue for new people to post in since they do know about themselves. Personally, I do not know if I am qualified to answer posts on strategy and anyone can offer an opinion, but without some basis to substantiate it is reckless at best and self-centered at worst. I think I got some game as I have been payin bills( but not much else) since August but I also have leaks that pop up after I thought they were plugged. These seem to be character-related and I am looking to address these( suggestions welcome-lol) and that may be the topic of my second post unless I find it addressed here(haven't yet).This post may belong elsewhere but I do not know where it fits even after reviewing the Forum. I started this response simply to say that I did not come here for the Gauntlet but it sounds like fun playing with folks that I plan on spending some time with in our common quest to become better players. As regards having a posting criteria fine but if you make it by number of posts you are then going to be flooded (and so am I in having to reading through them) with empty, meaningless posts trying to "qualify". That will screw up your Forum or "dilute it" is a better way to put it, and that is contrary to what you have accomplished thus far. Some of that is inevitable just due to human nature even without any "qualifying criteria" because people like to "put their two cents in" and there are plenty of posts I just blow right by already. If you have a quality criteria that would be much better but waaayyy to labor intensive. I see that you(we, now?) have a contest for best posts and they were indeed good but just ask the judges how much work that was an d you can see this is not feasible. Anyway, that's my two cents worth on the topic. In a nutshell, don't have a knee-jerk response that will create a problem greater than the one you have. You do think about how your PF play sets the tone for your Flop, Turn and River right? Same here. See ya 'round.
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