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    There will be spoilers for Walking Dead ITT because I'm splitting off from TV thread to discuss what a zombie apocalypse TV show should be about/have in it

    Should probably always be one guy or a handful of guys are cream of the crop badasses who enter pure survivor-protector mode, then nearly all the emotional stuff comes from the people who are only alive because of them

    Some to start, absolute musts are

    - Shotguns, nobody who understand zombie stuff needs explanation on why

    - A guy often decked in full plate armor and a broadsword or maybe a mace or warhammer. He marches into moderately small groups of zombies and smashes them in the most brutal and basic kind of battling imaginable. Maybe he was a Medieval hobbyist with some underground equipment or worked at a museum and jacked that shit after it hit the fan

    - Silencers, silencers, silencers. Night vision, kevlar, fucking silencers. I don't care how the fuck a zombie apocalypse goes down, the people left alive will be mostly extremely resilient and will understand these things and know how to get them

    - Most things are raw and unforgiving. Like when the blonde said she doesn't wanna live anymore, the leader of the bunch shoots her in the fucking mouth. Actually he doesn't do it like that. The leader is smart enough to know that the way to do it is to lead her out in the woods, make sure she wants what she said she does, then kills her, and the explanation upon returning to the camp is that she's not coming back. That sort of thing would actually work in zombie apocalypse

    - Consistency on stuff like "don't get blood on you"

    - A zombie show is ripe for flashback episodes. Like Lost, but way better. I wanna see what happened to each member of the clan in the beginning and how they coped/evolved. I wanna see how the guy decked in plate armor was a big fat nerd MMO LARPing dork who worked at a museum so he could look at swords all day, then when zombies hit he never knew all his Star Wars Kid-esque training was legit. I wanna see an ex-Navy Seal (preferably a mega bitchy chick who's badass at everything but nobody knows why because all she does is glare at them), hell there can even be an amateur boxer who never had the grits to make it big but now he lives for going toe to toe against a game zombie, clad in makeshift brass knuckles/hand protection material obviously
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    +1 on everything except wasting a bullet on the blonde emo chick. Should have left her in that exploding compound. Besides, you need every resource possible and human capital is certainly in short supply!

    Wuf, have you read World War Z? Sounds like what you're looking for in a lot of ways.
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    I haven't read that, I'm guessing I should.
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    Also, if you ain't played, this is a fantastic platform shooter rpgish zombie flash

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    And if you like bird's eye view strategy of sorts, this is great

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    I'd watch yer show. Get off your ass and make it.
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    - Consistency on stuff like "don't get blood on you"
    agree on everything especially this ^, WTF them reaching around inside that guy with gardening gloves on, do you get infected if blood his blood gets in a scrape?
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    replace plate armor with chainmail and I'm on board.

    Like I said in the other thread, we need weapon customization. Oh, and flamethrowers.

    Also cool creative ways for zombies to get obliterated is a must, think the helicopter scene in 28 weeks later (I think it may have been done in the 2000's remake of Dawn of the Dead too.)

    A big problem with Walking Dead, outside of the terrible writing, is the horrible lack of variety in action scenes. They are nearly all the same. Same couple of weapon types, same scenarios, same same same.
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    WWZ is fantastic, better than TWD imo. Apparently fans aren't happy with the movie though...but it's BRAD PITT

    It's really frustrating when they cover themselves in infected blood then get rained on and somehow not one drop hits their eyes/ears/nose/mouth. Also, they have to have a ton of scrapes since they're really roughing it...Or beating something to death at close range. They're always yelling, mouths wide as can be, as they strike a blow, then their faces get covered in blood...yet they don't swallow any?
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    ya... respirators, eye protection, come on people. Stop this "trying to go on living our lives" bullshit. THERE ARE FUCKING ZOMBIES WALKING AROUND-- TEACH CARLS BITCH ASS TO SHOOT A GUN, STOP GIVING HIM BIRTHDAY PRESENTS, STOP BEING A BUNCH OF BITCHES. HYACH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illfavor View Post
    It's really frustrating when they cover themselves in infected blood then get rained on and somehow not one drop hits their eyes/ears/nose/mouth. Also, they have to have a ton of scrapes since they're really roughing it...Or beating something to death at close range. They're always yelling, mouths wide as can be, as they strike a blow, then their faces get covered in blood...yet they don't swallow any?
    IMO this is why I think the producers took over the show from original writers. Clearly, they do not understand zombies or artistic integrity, and instead opt for inserting the same sort of action/behavior from different shows/scenarios. Like they think "a frightening kill scene always = blood on face and screaming, therefore this will be how it goes down in a zombie show". To an actual artist, that sentence is a fail on so many levels

    IIRC, this appeared to not be a problem at the beginning of the show, and if that's true, it's definite that the show now sucks because the lawyers and accountants took over and replaced the key staff with drones. Joe Rogan talks on his podcast from time to time about how that kind of thing happens all the time, and it's the main reason why so many terrible shows keep running, and why great shows either get cancelled or watered down
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    replace plate armor with chainmail and I'm on board.
    Could have some of that. It's obviously more mobile, lighter, and practical, but all things considered, things like kevlar or thick leather would be much better. Metal armor is outdated as a motherfucker, but you still gotta have the prospect of like a Viking Warrior Knight crushing skulls as the zombies bounce off his armor. Something like four on one. Like in the beginning of the outbreak, the guy is hiding out in his house, then nearby a car with a woman and her three kids zooms by, swerving out of control, then slides into a wall, then out of nowhere four zombies charge for the car and are trying to break down the windows and shit, then our hero, who never before had worn his full plate (visor helmet and all) in battle, decides to break out of his shell, straps it on, then marches out of his house to save the woman/children, smashes one zombie from behind with his mace, the other three zombies then attack him, but all they can do is scratch and bite the plates, then eventually he's able to stand his ground, not get knocked over and stuff, and smashes the remaining three in an epic struggle for the upper hand, and saves the woman/children. That kinda thing has to happen at least once IMO. Similar renditions involve stuff like OMAR COMIN and blasts seven charging zombies in Terminator like succession

    Like I said in the other thread, we need weapon customization. Oh, and flamethrowers.
    For reals. FWIW, I think something lacking in Hollywood is RPG characterization and storytelling. We have some of it with caricatures like Josey Wales and Rambo, but going even further where the audience doesn't really even need to know some of the characters names, but what they do/look like/use

    Also cool creative ways for zombies to get obliterated is a must, think the helicopter scene in 28 weeks later (I think it may have been done in the 2000's remake of Dawn of the Dead too.)
    A demo guy/MacGyver/even Walter White could work
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    on the RPG elements thing, not exactly sure I am following, but I think I am... I think Boba Fett is a prime example?

    I mean, I just don't understand how there hasn't been a lone ranger type character that has crossed paths (if only barely) with the main group in WD. First this lets you put a whole shitton of badassery into your show without having to budget for the bad ass and all his badassery every episode. Second it makes the world dynamic-- it makes it seem like the world actually exists outside of the scope of our main group. How are they just never running into other survivors? Why are there no antagonists aside form the zombies? You don't need villains in zombie fiction (Dawn of the Dead) but it probably would make the writers jobs a thousand times easier. How about roaming bandits like in The Road or Book of Eli (can't believe I'm mentioning those two movies in the same sentence..) Speaking of those movies, how about shooting your scenes at any time of the day except fucking noon? How about adding some filters so the world looks bleak? How about having an artistic vision, actually making an effort, etc?


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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post


    For reals. FWIW, I think something lacking in Hollywood is RPG characterization and storytelling. We have some of it with caricatures like Josey Wales and Rambo, but going even further where the audience doesn't really even need to know some of the characters names, but what they do/look like/use
    Predator did this.


    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post

    A demo guy/MacGyver/even Walter White could work
    Walter White would have killed blondie long ago, left the young girl to die in the woods and shot her mom for daring to argue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanAronG View Post
    Predator did this.




    Walter White would have killed blondie long ago, left the young girl to die in the woods and shot her mom for daring to argue.
    LOL man you just made a case for Walter White being the GOAT character
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    And lol at this





    I'm sure there's some werewolf memes to be made out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    on the RPG elements thing, not exactly sure I am following, but I think I am... I think Boba Fett is a prime example?

    I mean, I just don't understand how there hasn't been a lone ranger type character that has crossed paths (if only barely) with the main group in WD. First this lets you put a whole shitton of badassery into your show without having to budget for the bad ass and all his badassery every episode. Second it makes the world dynamic-- it makes it seem like the world actually exists outside of the scope of our main group.
    That is an excellent idea actually. I always thought you'd make a good writer...

    How are they just never running into other survivors? Why are there no antagonists aside form the zombies? You don't need villains in zombie fiction (Dawn of the Dead) but it probably would make the writers jobs a thousand times easier. How about roaming bandits like in The Road or Book of Eli (can't believe I'm mentioning those two movies in the same sentence..) Speaking of those movies, how about shooting your scenes at any time of the day except fucking noon? How about adding some filters so the world looks bleak? How about having an artistic vision, actually making an effort, etc?
    Yeah but dude all the cars are facing one direction. Mind bottled and asploded
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanAronG View Post
    I'm sure there's some werewolf memes to be made out of it.
    With some good originals I could think of something
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    TWD is like I Am Legend except Will Smith has 50 babies to take care of constantly. Survivors is much better imo, but it's about a pandemic rather than nombies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    on the RPG elements thing, not exactly sure I am following, but I think I am... I think Boba Fett is a prime example?
    Mainly it's about status uniqueness and characterization that can be summed up in one paragraph.

    It's like, take Friends for example, if you were to describe each character in that show in one paragraph, half the paragraph would be about who're they dating and something they did before, which is stupid. They're all pretty much just generic characters. But in a good RPG it's more like "Cloud has crazy hair, always uses a sword bigger than a truck, has never met a challenge he couldn't overcome, and is shy around people but will always protect them then later eat his dinner in silence"

    Some shows do this stuff well though. Aliens was great in movie, Modern Family, Community, Wire, some others did this well too
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    That is an excellent idea actually. I always thought you'd make a good writer...



    I'm wwwwway too stuck on instant gratification to ever write anything. But ya, the issue with the lone badass is that there is always the temptation and the pressure from the audience to lift the veil, and this pressure is even greater in an ongoing series. Yet once the veil is lifted, the level of badassery drops several magnitudes, unless it is handled with great tact and care. It could be fucking awesome in a 5 season run to have the group get slaughtered in the s04 finale, then in season 5 completely shift the pace/feel/scope of the show by lifting the veil and focusing on our lone ranger...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Mainly it's about status uniqueness and characterization that can be summed up in one paragraph.

    It's like, take Friends for example, if you were to describe each character in that show in one paragraph, half the paragraph would be about who're they dating and something they did before, which is stupid. They're all pretty much just generic characters. But in a good RPG it's more like "Cloud has crazy hair, always uses a sword bigger than a truck, has never met a challenge he couldn't overcome, and is shy around people but will always protect them then later eat his dinner in silence"

    Some shows do this stuff well though. Aliens was great in movie, Modern Family, Community, Wire, some others did this well too
    ah, ok, I gotcha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    I'm wwwwway too stuck on instant gratification to ever write anything. But ya, the issue with the lone badass is that there is always the temptation and the pressure from the audience to lift the veil, and this pressure is even greater in an ongoing series. Yet once the veil is lifted, the level of badassery drops several magnitudes, unless it is handled with great tact and care. It could be fucking awesome in a 5 season run to have the group get slaughtered in the s04 finale, then in season 5 completely shift the pace/feel/scope of the show by lifting the veil and focusing on our lone ranger...
    Yeah that would be tight

    I spent a great deal of time wanting to be a writer, but I could never do it due to it being way too frustrating. Maybe I could now if I tried again, but as a teenager, it didn't matter how good something I wrote was, I would find every little flaw and think it was shit within a week
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    ya, I have that issue with writing for sure. With visual art, I tend to be happy with what I produce-- and if I think it's lacking I am fine with it. Visual art is cool though, because intention goes such a long way imo. With writing I feel like it is much more structured, it's probably one of the least subjective art forms.
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    I want the full cast of This Life with Americans accents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    replace plate armor with chainmail and I'm on board.

    Like I said in the other thread, we need weapon customization. Oh, and flamethrowers.

    Also cool creative ways for zombies to get obliterated is a must, think the helicopter scene in 28 weeks later (I think it may have been done in the 2000's remake of Dawn of the Dead too.)

    A big problem with Walking Dead, outside of the terrible writing, is the horrible lack of variety in action scenes. They are nearly all the same. Same couple of weapon types, same scenarios, same same same.
    Kind of hard to come up with a lot of variety unless McGyver is with them... as they don't have access to weapon stores that I've seen them find yet... limited to what they can scrape together... but I do think a visit to a military base is in order.
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    Nobody in any zombie apocalypse setting should ever be shown wearing a clean white shirt.

    It just kills it for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    on the RPG elements thing, not exactly sure I am following, but I think I am... I think Boba Fett is a prime example?

    I mean, I just don't understand how there hasn't been a lone ranger type character that has crossed paths (if only barely) with the main group in WD. First this lets you put a whole shitton of badassery into your show without having to budget for the bad ass and all his badassery every episode. Second it makes the world dynamic-- it makes it seem like the world actually exists outside of the scope of our main group. How are they just never running into other survivors? Why are there no antagonists aside form the zombies? You don't need villains in zombie fiction (Dawn of the Dead) but it probably would make the writers jobs a thousand times easier. How about roaming bandits like in The Road or Book of Eli (can't believe I'm mentioning those two movies in the same sentence..) Speaking of those movies, how about shooting your scenes at any time of the day except fucking noon? How about adding some filters so the world looks bleak? How about having an artistic vision, actually making an effort, etc?


    /rant
    First Season with limited cash. Second Season would hopefully rectify some of this, but unsure if they have money...
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    what? None of that take an excess of cash to accomplish. There are simple tricks to make the world feel more fleshed out and alive (ha). They avoid all these tricks.

    It is just very poor show running imo. There are so many ways to save money and not sacrifice show quality. It just takes creativity.

    But of course it doesn't help that the network shafted their most successful show ever by demanding more eps and at the same time cutting the budget.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty3038 View Post
    Kind of hard to come up with a lot of variety unless McGyver is with them... as they don't have access to weapon stores that I've seen them find yet... limited to what they can scrape together... but I do think a visit to a military base is in order.
    Dude, there has been abandoned military equip all around. But ya, you're right, they haven't stumbled across a gun store yet-- but wait... THIS IS FICTION, THEY CAN JUST WRITE THAT SHIT IN. The characters don't need to be McGyver, the writers need to stop being slouches and start being creative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    Dude, there has been abandoned military equip all around. But ya, you're right, they haven't stumbled across a gun store yet-- but wait... THIS IS FICTION, THEY CAN JUST WRITE THAT SHIT IN. The characters don't need to be McGyver, the writers need to stop being slouches and start being creative.
    Ok, after the last two responses to my replies, I'll quit giving them any room for improvement, or any slack. I do hope it gets better and hangs around, since it is one of only three or four things I actually watch on television.
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    Nail guns!
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    TWD will get better. It has to. There's nowhere to go but up after that deer scene

    Also, I think the deer scene can subtly demonstrate what's actually going on behind the scenes. That scene makes absolutely no sense unless IMO they were trying to paint the portrait of the kid not understanding the world, where he came from, normal things, nature, etc, and they were trying to show him capturing a piece of a pre-zombie world by being awestruck by a deer which he may have never seen or heard of before.

    If that's what they're going for, which it's the only thing I can think of, the problem has got to be the outlines are somewhat coherent, but the writing is being rushed like crazy due to infighting or whatever. So they could have legit ideas and way of making the boy discover a world he never knew, but if they don't have enough time to write an episode, it looks like that episode/scene did
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    dude, the apocalypse happened less than a year ago, probably less than two months ago. The kid has seen Bambi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    dude, the apocalypse happened less than a year ago, probably less than two months ago. The kid has seen Bambi.
    My explanation for this is bad casting. Maybe the kid is supposed to be like 5 years old, but they wanted to cast someone older for whatever normal and stupid reasons Hollywood does that

    IIRC earlier in the episode aren't they talking about how he thinks he has a memory of something from the old life, but it turns out he was too young to remember but was trying to remember etc. If so, that lends it's hand to my interpretation of the story they're trying to tell

    Frankly, if that's the direction they're going in, it's not bad. They'd have to tread real lightly on the deer scene, but it's still possible to do something somewhat similar. What we saw could have been a huge bastardization of the story they're trying being told smoothly

    If I'm right, they can very much salvage the show by abandoning all preconceived ideas, and just go straight conventional zombies plus straight conventional storytelling. It still would be lacking a lot, but would be possible to do within the context of dreadful behind the scenes stuff, but it would no longer be insultingly bad
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    Did you not see the clips at the end of the episode? I wasn't getting the sense that it gets better this season.
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    Yeah those clips were sooooooooooooo bad

    But really, name anything worse than the deer scene. Just one thing. Name it. You can't. Because it doesn't exist. Because the deer scene was jaw droppingly stunningly ridiculous. No where to go but up. Or flatline. Actually I'm going with flatline. Then maybe up for like two seconds in season seven or something
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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyLaRue View Post
    Did you not see the clips at the end of the episode? I wasn't getting the sense that it gets better this season.
    I never watch these.
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    idk wuf, I think you're stretching... kids often try to join in when older people are reminiscing by saying "ya, I think I remember that too!" The event they were talking about was when he was a baby, he got the flu and threw up on a road trip. I mean, a fucking 3 year old knows what a deer is. The only time the "wait, what is this completely standard and mundane thing from the pre-apoc world that I've never seen before?" thing with a kid works is if the apocalyptic event took place at least 5 years ago. See The Road and the can of coke scene for reference. This just absolute cannot work if the apocalyptic event took place less than a year ago.

    Another thing I've noticed that this show just completely ignores... people who have lost loved ones to the zombie hordes need to be either shell shocked or turned into bad ass zombie killing machines. Everyone is just super "meh" about the zombies... no one is taking out their rage on these slow moving undead piniatas. What's up with T-Dog's people? The chinaman? Can we get some Lost style (I mean if they are going to lift everything else from Lost..) flashbacks that show us what went down with each group member when shit hit the fan? How have none of the supporting cast been like "yo, I gotta go in search of my family/friends!"? You know why? Because the writers are shit and these people only exist as supporting characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyLaRue View Post
    Nail guns!
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    I don't really disagree with anything you've said, and if I did it would just be silly anyways. The show is so amazingly lolbad that there's got to be something going on other than just bad writers. All I'm saying I guess. I could easily be wrong on that too. I do generally overestimate people, maybe some cable writers really are this terrible.

    But man like I whine for days about how bad the writing was in Battlestar Galactica, but that was Shakespeare compared to TWD
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    ya, I mean with the reports of the whole writing staff being canned by the show runner at some point during season 1, then the show runner being canned half way through filming season two... there is way more going on aside from just bad writing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    But man like I whine for days about how bad the writing was in Battlestar Galactica, but that was Shakespeare compared to TWD
    I lol'd at the comparison to Shakespeare...
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    Anybody read the graphic novels for TWD?

    Is this a good adaptation at all?
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    from what I hear they have deviated quite a bit from the comics. And everyone says the comics are the shit-- so I'd say no, it probably is a pretty poor adaptation.
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    Just watched the Dead Set mini series. I highly recommend it. It had a 28 days later feel to it... could almost be a parallel story set in the same universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    Just watched the Dead Set mini series. I highly recommend it. It had a 28 days later feel to it... could almost be a parallel story set in the same universe.
    Is it hosted anywhere on the web or do I need to download it...
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    bigred, I couldn't find it on my private tracker, so I just grabbed it off a public one, TPB iirc.


    ya, wuf, that site, this thread, and the 2+2 thread are the reason I watch the show still. So many luls.
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    Read World War Z on the weekend. It's good but left me wanting more. It's not short at ~420 pages but there's just so much more that could have been done without losing the richness of the story. No idea how they'll work it into a movie as there are just too many different characters.

    One thing I don't understand with this and any zombie story is, why are there so many zombies if humans are food? Considering the feeding frenzies that are referred to, how is there anything left to reanimate, let alone the millions of zombies that appear more or less whole?
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    Yeah it doesn't make too much sense. Also any apocalypse would die out very quickly, and militaries would still be up and running just fine. 28 days rage virus was the most reasonable rendition I've seen so far
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    militaries would still be up and running just fine
    World War Z addresses this really well, I thought. I won't spoil it.
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    i have no idea how im going to make it through another episode let alone the season.

    if they mention the f deer one more time im done.

    ?wut
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    All things considered, I can't believe they left the dear behind, not much fresh meat around, but lots of dead stupid teenagers with strange expressions of their faces.
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    YES SHANE, SHOOT THAT FATTY IN THE LEG AND BECOME THE ONLY MULTIDIMENSIONAL CHARACTER IN THIS SHOW!!!
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    Btw, fuck that blonde chick.

    Old guy: Do you forgive me? (For saving your whiny little emo ass and you fucking owe me)
    Blonde chick: I'll think about it (WAHHH WAHHH WAHH WOE ON ME)
    Bigred to blonde chick: FALCON PUNCH

    I hate every one of these characters...and new addition to the bigred's hated hall of fame

    Whiny fucking cheating whore mom: I think our son should die so he doesn't have to put up with this hard life
    Dedicated dumbass hero: We must pull through and work hard for that beautiful fucking deer!

    Fuck this show, seriously
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    Fuck the old man too...

    "do you forgive me?"

    ARE YOU GOING TO STOP BEING SUCH A NEEDY TWAT?

    That guy just always seems like he's about to cry. I'm not sure, but I think that might be the actor I hate the most on the show. Fuck him.
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    Yeah the old guy is the worst. At the very least the whore and blonde are pretty. The old guy just looks like a child molester and acts like a tween girl
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    I think oldie will end up watching blondie die a brutal death, then find his sack and go apeshit on some zombahs.

    I agree TWD is slipping, recent episodes have been getting worse and worse. But I'll hang in there.
    Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoRnholio View Post
    I think oldie will end up watching blondie die a brutal death, then find his sack and go apeshit on some zombahs.
    All while crying "SHE NEVER FORGAVE ME, YOU BASTARDS!! SHE NEVER FORGAVE ME!!"

    Actually, I'm not sure that's cheesy enough for TWD
  63. #63
    Needs more deer.
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    now that i'm slightly less pissed.

    WAY TO KILL OFF THE INTERESTING FAT GUY YOU DOUCHEBAG PIECE OF SHIT WRITTERS. I KNEW HE WAS F'ED FROM SECOND 1 BUT C'MON THAT MAN HAD SKILLS! ALSO WHAT A DOUCHEBAG THAT COP WAS AT LEAST SHOOT HIM IN THE HEAD YOU F TOOL.

    GAH FFS. i hate this show so much

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  65. #65
    HOW IS THERE A FIELD FULL OF UNDEFENDED COWS STILL ALIVE IN THIS SHOW?!?!
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    so uh, did something actually happen in yesterday's show? I'm pretty sure absolutely nothing at all happened.

    Usual TWD plot line:
    Feelings
    Feelings
    Thoughts
    Feelings
    2 minutes of zombie action
    More Feelings

    Last night's plot line:
    FFFFFFFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEELLLLLLLIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGSSSSSSSSS
    LOL OPERATIONS
  67. #67
    You forgot the part with the sideboob.
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    This entire episode was a giant pile of f warble garble.

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    there are two good things about this show:

    1) the unintentional luls

    2) it has inspired me to go on a zombie binge. I've listened to the WWZ audiobook, watched Dead Set and Dawn of the Dead (2006), and I have a few more zombie movies lined up on my hd, and a few in mind to download.
  70. #70
    Haven't seen a zombie movie with so few zombies ever.

    Also in before Jerry Springer-ish "you are NOT the father!" drama...
    Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
  71. #71
    I think we're witnessing history. This is truly WOAT. There's a bunch of stuff that's worse, but that's always obscure stuff nobody cares about. But when it comes to popular stuff, I can't think of any show as bad as this one. The deer scene and the pharmacy sex scene were easily the worst I can think of
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    HOW DOES AN AWKWARD KID ACTOR NOT UNDERSTAND KNOW HOW TO ACT AWKWARDLY?!?!?!?!?!?


    ffs

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  73. #73
    Grimes isn't an awkward kid actor

    Oh wait
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    Preface: I've wanted to see this TV series when it first came out but haven't seen an episode yet and i'm crushed to hear it totally blows ass now... anywho...

    I was in coffee shop/bar this morning and they had Cast Away on one of the TVs (obviously not a beatnik-type shop)... and I thought of this thread. I don't mean to say anything about Cast Away as a movie, I've only seen it once when it first came out... but the "learning to figure shit out" segments of that movie I thought were among the most interesting at the time.

    Zombah movies, tend to rush through this part for obvious reasons, but in a TV series you have so much room to just watch people figure shit out. Maybe people wouldn't find that interesting, but I think it's what is missing. Sure you aren't going to re-create the lone man... but idk, maybe you could. Something like this should follow multiple groups of people (lost-esque) and maybe there is a plot thread with whole episodes with just this one guy. He lives out in the country, and the small town near where he lives happens to be totally eff'd.

    I think the key is authentic dialogue and situations... You can start out with a group of people... and do lots of improve activities to create dialog. It's fairly simple... just think... ok, what would this person honestly do. What would that person honestly do if they were in this situation. Plus having reasonably self-aware people that are excited or think it's hilarious that there are actual zombies for the first several episodes and then shifting to real problems. I felt like seeing Cast Away, (I just stopped and watched the scene where he's trying to open the coconut... and it made me think.. "damn this is so genuine..." and thought that should be essential to teh awesome zombies series.
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  75. #75
    That's why I think Stephen King is one of the best writers there ever was. His dialogue authenticity is second to none, also his character portrayals of normal folk

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