How is Donald Trump less qualified than Barack Obama's community organizer ass was to be President of the United States?
08-25-2015 04:44 PM
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You Can't Stump the TrumpHow is Donald Trump less qualified than Barack Obama's community organizer ass was to be President of the United States? | |
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08-25-2015 06:10 PM
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Well he's just a buffoon. I'm a big fan of the idea of a businessman president but it seems like all of the businessmen that want to be president tend to be tactless buffoons (Trump), mormon robots (Romney), or simpleton pizza franchisers (CAIN CAIN CAIN CAIN). | |
08-25-2015 06:16 PM
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08-25-2015 06:20 PM
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If Obama is so unqualified, how come he got a nobel peace prize? Checkmate republicans. | |
08-25-2015 06:26 PM
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I mean, Trump is indisputably a buffoon. His brand is built on him being a buffoon. | |
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08-25-2015 07:50 PM
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If qualifications mean the ability to learn and the ability to withstand pressure, one of the most decorated surgeons in the country's history beats the pants off everybody else in the field. |
08-25-2015 08:57 PM
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Naw, being a senator or a governor matters a ton. Being a senator or someone in the office of the POTUS moreso than a governor though. The type of experience you gain from working in that environment and developing relationships with people currently working there is clearly invaluable. | |
08-25-2015 09:34 PM
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Look at what has happened with Obama. Every level of public servant qualification he has just helps him do things that half the country hates. When members of groups talk about qualifications, they're talking about who they think could best achieve the policies that they all agree on. But in terms of the entire electorate, most of that loses meaning. So then what makes somebody qualified? I don't know. |
08-25-2015 09:42 PM
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08-25-2015 10:02 PM
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^^ True. |
08-26-2015 12:04 AM
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There's just something unique about public policy that makes it so different than everything else IMO. It's schizophrenic, paralytic, tribal. Maybe the real qualifications are from those who show a track record of making things better. I guess that's probably why the tradition for presidents is governors, since, well, they're in the best position to show that they have at least been head of state at the same time as positive developments. |
08-26-2015 02:39 AM
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I don't give a shit about presidential politics at all, but I will be deeply disturbed if Trump wins. I'm pretty sure he has precisely 0% chance, but it'll be pretty hideous if he even gets close to the nomination. | |
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08-26-2015 08:23 AM
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Trump wins the Republican nomination easily. He's switched modes from using it to get press (like he normally does) to actually trying to win after seeing his numbers keep going up and up. | |
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08-26-2015 09:09 AM
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He doesn't even want the nomination. | |
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08-26-2015 09:19 AM
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He didn't at first, but he's made moves recently that show his poll numbers changed his mind. | |
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08-26-2015 04:57 PM
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Spoon your claims about Trump are interesting. It's hard to find much direct evidence of it, which is sorta why I've started taking him at face value. It's the same for Carson. There are reasons to believe that he's just doing this to sell his book, but, well, there are more reasons to think that he's really running. |
08-26-2015 05:18 PM
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All i know is that political careers have ended for far less than "she was probably bleeding out of her whatever" and "Mexicans are thieves and rapists". | |
08-26-2015 05:30 PM
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08-26-2015 05:36 PM
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Spoon, Trump has a ways to go to even get to Ross Perot territory. | |
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08-26-2015 07:00 PM
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I'm arguing that the polls don't reflect the electorate that well. The people paying attention today are much different than the people who will pay attention near the primary and caucus days. I just don't know how much different that will be. |
08-26-2015 07:03 PM
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What I'm saying is more about "I don't know". I think the polls are going to get the early primaries wrong. Probably by a lot. Iowa and New Hampshire at least have a history of this. Plus polling is in semi-crisis already. Cell phones and disaffected voters seem to have been making polling less and less reliable over the last couple cycles. |
08-26-2015 07:20 PM
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Trump takes Iowa. Who wants to bet against me? | |
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08-26-2015 07:22 PM
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08-26-2015 07:33 PM
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Not me. 90% of the time the winner of Iowa is Trump, Carson, or Walker. |
08-26-2015 09:06 PM
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Trump does have a serious strength in that he comfortably breaks a lot of rules that are said that politicians must never break. It isn't that the rules are right, but that culture is so engrossed in them and is ripe for a non-politician to come along and break them and in doing so perform better than those adhering to the rules. |
08-27-2015 10:19 AM
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THE TRUMPENING IS UPON US | |
Last edited by spoonitnow; 08-27-2015 at 10:21 AM. | |
08-27-2015 06:14 PM
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lol i love this. |
08-27-2015 07:24 PM
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That's fucking hilarious lol | |
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08-27-2015 07:37 PM
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08-27-2015 07:42 PM
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Been playing with the numbers on this interactive map (scroll down). |
08-27-2015 08:23 PM
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The Alpha Mael Chael Sonnen endorses Trump therefore all tasteful, creative, godly people endorse Trump |
08-27-2015 09:31 PM
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Chael Sonnen was on Jim Cornette's podcast last week, and it was extremely, extremely good. | |
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09-01-2015 06:11 AM
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09-01-2015 12:03 PM
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09-04-2015 02:29 PM
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even funnier than the previous one |
09-05-2015 02:53 PM
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I think Trump would be more pro-immigration than any of the Democrats. Republicans have always been the pro-immigration party. Every GOP president since Reagan has been very pro-immigration. What's going on now that makes the GOP looks so anti-immigration has more to do with the law. Conservatives adore lawfulness. Its one of their most important principles. Even their response to the Kim Davis protest is mostly that even though they agree with her philosophically, she's wrongheaded because she's breaking the law. All this outrage over immigration on the right stems from a growing problem of lawlessness. |
09-06-2015 12:30 AM
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Cracking down on illegal immigration to setup for reform sounds like insisting on winning the war on drugs before legalization. | |
09-06-2015 01:25 AM
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It kinda does. I'm a much bigger fan of issuing visas to anybody who asks as long as they pass a criminal background check. And I don't want them monitored after they enter the country. In fact I'm open to the idea of automatic citizenship upon residency. |
09-06-2015 01:28 AM
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My intent was to point out that conservatives have a deep attachment to lawfulness. It isn't because of racism or nationalism that so many are against illegal immigration, but that they view lawlessness as a culture destroying problem and are dumbfounded at the extreme laziness of many to even acknowledge the lawlessness. |
09-06-2015 11:42 PM
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Ah, I see, you weren't advocating for the position, just highlighting its origins? | |
09-07-2015 12:00 AM
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Check out the latest Thaddeus Russell podcast I posted. He makes a compelling argument that implies that racism in the US could be said to be more about culturalism than ethnicity. |
09-07-2015 01:18 AM
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Interestingly it would seem that racism being at the core of prejudice and cultural differences being the main driver of prejudice need not be mutually exclusive ideas. Maybe this is why it can often be so easy to justify one's own racism-- maybe racism is the seed that the prejudice forest grows from. | |
11-20-2015 11:20 AM
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Booooooooooooom. | |
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11-20-2015 01:58 PM
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it's almost as if you should know better than to think much of an ipsos/reuters poll. also, you want to look at changes in performance of each pollster. the trump/carson dynamic hasnt changed much in this regard. |
11-20-2015 02:07 PM
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11-20-2015 02:13 PM
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it's almost as if you should know that what you're doing is cherry picking and what im doing is the opposite of cherry picking. |
11-20-2015 02:46 PM
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01-17-2016 12:17 AM
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cruz baited trump with the ny values and trump bit hook, line, and sinker. he hunkered down and attacked cruz on every little thing he could, feigning offense and the high ground, and the entire conservative base sees right through it. probably the most notable instance is mark levin's response: |
01-17-2016 12:07 PM
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First of all, nobody even knows who the fuck Mark Levin is. Second of all, Cruz blundered terribly with the NY values line, and Trump's support has been rising ever since he made it in every major poll at the expense of Cruz's support. | |
Last edited by spoonitnow; 01-17-2016 at 12:21 PM. | |
01-17-2016 12:23 PM
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01-17-2016 01:34 PM
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people who vote in republican primaries know who mark levin is. |
01-17-2016 02:09 PM
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01-17-2016 02:13 PM
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an irony about trump as a the gop nominee is that his presence on the ballot would crush the gop presence in congress. so much of his support comes from democrats who would inevitably show up to vote for trump but then d's in the other races. |
01-17-2016 02:18 PM
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check out that 538 article i linked twice. trump's state weaknesses aren't seen just by looking at one set of polls. it comes by way of when national numbers are better than state numbers, the real state results decline. also when state numbers are stronger than national numbers, the real state results increase. |
01-17-2016 02:32 PM
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Your logic game is weak here. Trump is destroying him. De-fucking-stroying. Denial won't save you, and it won't save Canadian Cruz. | |
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01-17-2016 03:24 PM
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at least you're getting your wish. trump is tripling down on his despicable and slimy hypocrisy. let's hope voters aren't as shitty of people as his strategy depends upon them being. |
01-17-2016 03:45 PM
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a trump presidency would mark a historical turning point in the american ethos, namely that it would by majority have adopted the continental european ethos of strongmen and authoritarianism. |
02-25-2016 02:54 PM
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02-25-2016 05:22 PM
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True. I like the analysis making waves recently (for a second time), that his supporters are there almost exclusively for his anti-PCness. It's the one thing they all agree on and the one thing he actually has. Outside of that, his and their values are a wild mess of this that and the other. |
05-28-2016 06:07 PM
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hey just want to remind u that trump is the fuckin man and lol at all ur tears go play hello kitty or w/e you socialists do spending other peoples money and cry mor | |
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