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No need to get hyped up and lock all of my posts because of a few bad ones in the past, there are many here who redouble there posts on Sngs and post HH's because it helps refresh themselves with the information they once hand on sngs and like to talk poker.
I see many double posts on here from taipain and others discussing HHs that are basic common situations and most on this board. I think everyone could actually figure out there own mistakes if they just gave about 5 minutes of effort into each one of their HHs, its human nature to want to discuss stuff even if your sure about something or aren't because you like to be praised or in my case hated upon, because if you go against a hh you barred upon or disgagree with a Stud the whole message board comes upon you.
Ive had the same probelm with Total Bluff, as soon as one reaches lots of posts and such, commenting on others Hh's when we all know within reason one can get a reasonable answer from themselves, it doesnt take others to help them as with most pros saying they have never read a poker book.
This is a message board of poker and information will continued to be spit out chewed out and recycled over and over again with wrong advice given out over and over or plays that only make sense because simple you saw the results of the HH or you know the player as a stud, all this information will be gone from the poker table.
My posts aren't to piss anyone off but to continue to learn poker and refresh on basic ideas, because let face it when your plays are donked upon or bad beats occur, even though you want them in poker and you know its a part of poker it still makes one question themselves when they dont get rewarded by winning a sng, winning that 200 dollar pot in in a cash game, or taking home 500 dollars in a mtt. You still want people to fall back upon, so this is why im making this post. Im not here to upset members of the forum even though sometimes it does which everyone finds themselves doing from time to time. Its poker even though you dont want emotions to get involved they always do , its human nature.
You just want something to fall back upon from other poker players, so please dont take my posts as a way of pissing anyone off because others make the same redudant HH's threads and some replies that are obviously results orientated or based on the status of the player online because you clearly see that he folded, when in fact this play may have more risk then reward factor when you clearly look at the hand itself and its roots.
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But no one but you does it a dozen times a day, every day.
And you really should stay out of the High Stakes forum until you're ready. That should be common sense.
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I see many double posts on here from taipain and others discussing HHs that are basic common situations and most on this board.
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Care to point out which posts of mine you think are irrelevant or obvious?
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09-20-2006, 02:16 AM
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I see many double posts on here from taipain and others discussing HHs that are basic common situations and most on this board.
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It was to prove a point, nothing against you. I love your hh's and advice
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ripjohn, there are some advanced and not-so-advanced poker concepts which you obviously fail to understand, as most recently evidenced by your posts in the high stakes forum. Until you do, you're better off not posting there.
There is such a thing as a "respected poster". Respect is something that is earned on these boards, not given. Start earning yours by reading more and posting less (a lot less), especially in forums where you don't have a clue.
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09-20-2006, 02:44 AM
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I see many double posts on here from taipain and others discussing HHs that are basic common situations and most on this board.
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It was to prove a point, nothing against you. I love your hh's and advice |
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My bankroll is the amount of money I would spend or lose before I got a job. It is calculated by adding my net worth to whatever I can borrow.
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You just want something to fall back upon from other poker players, so please dont take my posts as a way of pissing anyone off because others make
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We only have so much patience, man. I don't believe you mean to annoy people, but have you any idea how many complaints I've received about your repetitive, rudimentary questions and hand histories about the same thing over and over and over again?
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He isnt picking on you, he is getting lots of complaints about your posts. What do you think he should do when recieveing a lot of complaints about a poster?
If he wasnt so nice, you would have been banned long ago. He is makeing every effort to be as nice as possible about this.
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Rip,
Some advice man. This is coming from someone (myself) who has overstepped their bounds on this forum.
Take some time off from the forum and from poker. I have come across so many of your posts and it seems you just do not have the temperment to be playing the game. Also, feel free to read the higher stakes posts but until you have realtime experience with these games then I would stay out of the way. There is so much metagame going on that what looks to be -EV can actually be hugely +EV in the end. These guys are playing a totally different game than you are. Just stick the the sit-n-go forums, the small stakes NL, and the comm. and you'll be fine.
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Heres one simple bit of advice.....
When you post a HH and want replys on it...dont immediately make the next 13 replies to the thread with other hand histories that have nothing in common...pick one and get responses and soak them up........Just dont chug through and post post post post post post post post......your obviously not doing enough reading to grasp things.
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09-20-2006, 03:37 PM
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No need to get hyped up and lock all of my posts because of a few bad ones in the past, there are many here who redouble there posts on Sngs and post HH's because it helps refresh themselves with the information they once hand on sngs and like to talk poker.
I see many double posts on here from taipain and others discussing HHs that are basic common situations and most on this board. I think everyone could actually figure out there own mistakes if they just gave about 5 minutes of effort into each one of their HHs, its human nature to want to discuss stuff even if your sure about something or aren't because you like to be praised or in my case hated upon, because if you go against a hh you barred upon or disgagree with a Stud the whole message board comes upon you.
Ive had the same probelm with Total Bluff, as soon as one reaches lots of posts and such, commenting on others Hh's when we all know within reason one can get a reasonable answer from themselves, it doesnt take others to help them as with most pros saying they have never read a poker book.
This is a message board of poker and information will continued to be spit out chewed out and recycled over and over again with wrong advice given out over and over or plays that only make sense because simple you saw the results of the HH or you know the player as a stud, all this information will be gone from the poker table.
My posts aren't to piss anyone off but to continue to learn poker and refresh on basic ideas, because let face it when your plays are donked upon or bad beats occur, even though you want them in poker and you know its a part of poker it still makes one question themselves when they dont get rewarded by winning a sng, winning that 200 dollar pot in in a cash game, or taking home 500 dollars in a mtt. You still want people to fall back upon, so this is why im making this post. Im not here to upset members of the forum even though sometimes it does which everyone finds themselves doing from time to time. Its poker even though you dont want emotions to get involved they always do , its human nature.
You just want something to fall back upon from other poker players, so please dont take my posts as a way of pissing anyone off because others make the same redudant HH's threads and some replies that are obviously results orientated or based on the status of the player online because you clearly see that he folded, when in fact this play may have more risk then reward factor when you clearly look at the hand itself and its roots.
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Your biggest error so far is not going back through the HH and strat forums and reading some of the older posts with lots of replies.
If you made posts with some level of substance it wouldnt be so bad, but so far the only substance i see is the one you seem to be takng before posting 
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It's become very clear that a lot of people are fed up with you (as demonstrated in public replies as well as in private messages to me). Whether intentional on your part or not, you need to stop posting non-content. Who decides which of your posts lack good content? We do. The readers you've been tormenting for the past month or so. Two more Strikes will get you banned. So you'd better think very hard before posting anything (new topics, replies, and PMs).
Many of those that have tried to help you in the past have given up because you're just not getting it. Very soon, no one will help you.
By the way, I repeat: STOP SENDING PMs TO PEOPLE FOR ADVICE. Do you think I don't know about those? I've received complaints from people you're PMing hand histories to. EVERYONE wants you to stop.
And DO NOT post anymore in the High Stakes forum. Doing so again will get you banned QUICKLY.
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Not to me, ripjohngotti isnt a jerk.... just making mistakes (over and over and over and over and over)
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http://totalbluff.com/forums/viewtop...=291460#291460
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Please tell totabluff ive found a new home where they actually discuss poker .
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maybe ripjohn is going a bit crazy by PMing people with HH's, and maybe he posts too many bad beats etc...But don't you think everyone is getting on his case just a little bit too much? I mean i was on vacation for a couple weeks so maybe i missed too much stuff, but to me he seems like an active poster (post whore might be more descriptive) who doesn't quite understand what bad beats are or whatever - Is it his avatar that inspires such hostility?
for instance, his ? to aces about fear of a boat - I have posted questions to Gabe and Fnord regarding theories on their hands (like the A flopping, and inducing bluffs) - Just because I don't play 10/20 NL doesn't mean its a concept that I just should stay away from, or not ask about - I ask because I want to know (nobody is answering me though, so im starting to suspect their is a definite hierarchy going on lately)
so whats going on lately? Are only the great players supposed to be discussing big hands? I know that we low level guys don't get everything, but didn't everyone start exactly where we are now? I understand nobody wants to be inundated with HH's all day long and answering the same questions gets old - But I think everyone should understand that there are all sorts of levels of talent around here - and if someone is asking a question, its not to annoy people...its to get answers -
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There's a difference between asking intelligent questions (encouraged) and wading into a thread way beyond your stakes and skill level to tell OP you don't like his play without understanding the reasoning behind it nor grasping the importance of metagame when you play big bet poker against a small base of regulars.
We are very fortunate to have high stakes players posting here and actively participating in FTR, but their time, effort and input is valuable and it shouldn't be wasted.
I'm not saying that anyone who doesn't play high stakes shouldn't be posting there, but anyone who does post there better give serious thought as to whether they are adding to the discussion or detracting from it before they hit the 'submit' button.
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i know there time is valuable (actually i often wonder how some of the big time guys take so much time to post and I know that we are looking for constructive thoughts and meaningful insight - But what it seems like, to me at least, is that we want people to be afraid to post in certain sections because they don't play the stakes, or understand the concepts? Thats what im getting at - There are 2 instances lately that I have really been wanting answers to (neither of which is above 1/2 NL) and thats the inducing bluffs question and the Ace flopping when you have K's - i don't keep bumping and bumping them because its clear to me that i have gotten all the answers im going to...and 1/2NL seems like a decent sized game to me at this stage - That doesn't mean that the concepts don't apply to my game and level though -
I just don't think we should discourage people from posting - we might just become 2+2 in no time - its like over there they have a few posters who post 80% of the site - the advice I believe is good - but i've also read them attack players for 'being stupid' etc....Thats why i don't like that site - Im not saying everyone and their mom should post their thoughts about the 10/20 NL game when they are playing 5c/10c limit, but it just seems like ripjohn is getting it thrown at him a bit too much - again, maybe its because of other stuff i haven't seen/read, but I like that we have a lot of people chiming in around here...I think its cool that we have threads of randomness and stupid shit just to be sociable...Are we going to implement rules for which forums posters can use? That just doesn't seem right - but maybe there have been other abuses of this in the past and that's why people are quick to try and shut it down before it becomes a real problem???
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High stakes is a special case. I don't think anyone wants to see people's ability to post there restricted, but I think those of us that don't play those stakes need to be extremely frugal about it and protective of our high stakes players' space, to ensure that its content isn't diluted by stupid posts from players that just don't get it.
I learn from high stakes by following the discussions between high stakes players. I only wade in and ask questions when it isn't clear to me why a play seems to be considered "standard" when to me it looks like it's anything but and it doesn't look like the answer will be forthcoming. But even then I'm cautious.
It is a very simple matter for FTR to restrict access to the high stakes forum, but I think you'll agree that it's in nobody's best interest to create conditions that make that neccessary.
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I think there's a difference between discouraging posting -- i.e. getting all up in someone's jock whenever he opens his mouth -- and explaining how and why to post in certain places. i.e. explaining what other peoples' expectations are, and how to ask good questions.
fwiw I think that the RJG saga has had a bit of both.
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I just don't think we should discourage people from posting - we might just become 2+2 in no time - its like over there they have a few posters who post 80% of the site - the advice I believe is good - but i've also read them attack players for 'being stupid' etc....Thats why i don't like that site - Im not saying everyone and their mom should post their thoughts about the 10/20 NL game when they are playing 5c/10c limit, but it just seems like ripjohn is getting it thrown at him a bit too much - again, maybe its because of other stuff i haven't seen/read, but I like that we have a lot of people chiming in around here...I think its cool that we have threads of randomness and stupid shit just to be sociable...Are we going to implement rules for which forums posters can use? That just doesn't seem right - but maybe there have been other abuses of this in the past and that's why people are quick to try and shut it down before it becomes a real problem???
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I hope no one else is discouraged from posting because of this. That is not the intent and I have not seen anyone else suggest such a thing. Other posters are not making general "dont' do this" posts, they are saying "gotti, stop doing this".
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1) Posts a hand, ignores the first reply, then posts several more hands that may or may not be the same
2) Acknowledges a reply, then goes on to explain what he was thinking and why he thinks he played the hand properly, even though the reply stated otherwise
3) Posts bad beats in the SnG forum under the guise of guidance which he never responds to
4) Posts in the high stakes forum as renton stated, then posts a hand he tried to play the same way in a mid-to-low stakes game as an example of why the high-stakes play doesn't work
5) Makes the correct play, then uses the results to convince himself it was the wrong play
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I think there's a difference between discouraging posting -- i.e. getting all up in someone's jock whenever he opens his mouth -- and explaining how and why to post in certain places. i.e. explaining what other peoples' expectations are, and how to ask good questions.
fwiw I think that the RJG saga has had a bit of both.
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dont assume that this situation just started and its being brought up in its infancy and therefore we should take the time to be considerate and go through all the avenues and niceties to make peace.
alot of time has been spent behind the scenes.
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dont assume that this situation just started and its being brought up in its infancy and therefore we should take the time to be considerate and go through all the avenues and niceties to make peace.
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i figured there had to be, which is why i had several disclaimers in my posts...But i've been through some of this scrutiny and i've also had things (more recently) where I felt that maybe i was being ignored - which is fine - i just thought maybe some things were going in the wrong direction....
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agree, but c'mon...how many times does someone need to be told, ffs? Every effort was made to be diplomatic about it. Some people just need to be slapped upside the head, apparently.
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I totally agree with this.
I get pissed when people ask for help, then blatently ignore it.
Anyway some good links from Totalbluff (which is running really slow right now):
Fuck u poker
When you enter a MTT or SNG
He joined TotalBluff on Jul 31st and has 1300+ posts...
{EDIT: ya, 2006. How is there time to post so much and play at all?}
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it seems like maybe he is just joining different sites until he finds the right company - SO, I have an idea...SOMEONE please direct him to those guys who run the conspiracy website and post nothing but stuff about how online poker is rigged! That would be perfect -
Maybe he is just posting them to sound ridiculous...the ones on Total Bluff are bad - really bad - anyways....
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taipan168
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Sydney
Posts: 10,441
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Originally Posted by swiggidy
A partial list:
1) Posts a hand, ignores the first reply, then posts several more hands that may or may not be the same
2) Acknowledges a reply, then goes on to explain what he was thinking and why he thinks he played the hand properly, even though the reply stated otherwise
3) Posts bad beats in the SnG forum under the guise of guidance which he never responds to
4) Posts in the high stakes forum as renton stated, then posts a hand he tried to play the same way in a mid-to-low stakes game as an example of why the high-stakes play doesn't work
5) Makes the correct play, then uses the results to convince himself it was the wrong play
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Well said man, you nailed it.
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fasin8ing
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Full House
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Germany
Posts: 1,063
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Originally Posted by midas06
http://totalbluff.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=291460#291460
thoughts?
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LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO ... Howd you fine this... Fuck Sherlock ... That is the funniest shit I have ever seen.
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Renton
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA
Posts: 5,991
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dude, you really hate retarded people don't you fas?
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fasin8ing
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Full House
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Germany
Posts: 1,063
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Originally Posted by Renton
dude, you really hate retarded people don't you fas?
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LMAO .. Naw I was looking for my old avatar ... And on Google I typed in tard.jpg, and thats where I found chia tard.. It was love at first sight.. I really dont have anything against them... They are coold people.. I smoked weed with a retarded dude when I was younger.. It was cool. I couldnt stop laughing..
Whats better than winning the special olympics???????????
Not being retarded.......................................... .............................
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Fnord
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I'll Do You Like A Truck
Posts: 19,333
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I RAISE
http://totalbluff.com/forums/viewtop...&highlight=ftr
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Anyways i get better help over here the FTR. They are technical with every hand when they forget about the basics.
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