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Old 01-29-2008, 01:08 PM     Post subject: sorry to bring this up... #1 (permalink)  
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I know you don't discuss politics with friends, but I can't help this...

If Mike Huckabee becomes out next president I'm slitting my wrists or moving to Canada...whichever is the least painful/easiest.
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Old 01-29-2008, 01:19 PM     Post subject: Re: sorry to bring this up... #2 (permalink)  
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I know you don't discuss politics with friends, but I can't help this...

If Mike Huckabee becomes out next president I'm slitting my wrists or moving to Canada...whichever is the least painful/easiest.
It's Mccain and Romney now so don't worry Huck has no chance.
 
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Old 01-29-2008, 01:31 PM #3 (permalink)  
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romney is partners in a firm thats trying to buy Clear Channel . cant win it , buy it !

mccain is ... for me , a bit too gung-ho . he likes to say that we'll ' never surrender ' in the middle east , no matter what the costs . i can understand how the gained this die-hard patriotic mentality spending time oversea's as a POW , but really .. . . how many american lives (or any lives for that matter) are worth Iraqi oil ? ?

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more people feel that way about hilary than anyone else
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I hate McCain the least of all the Repubicans... I actually liked him a little before he sold his soul to the R. Party and supported G.W. in '04.

Hillary is too polarizing... there are so many people that HATE her... she will DRIVE people to the polls... to vote against her. I'm voting Dem regardless because i tend to agree with some of the things they support, but I'm hoping Obama wins the nomination. I'm very fearful that if Hillary wins the nom, that McCain will take the swing voters and win the whole thing. (i also worry about who his VP will be, because McCain is old and I could easily see him dying in office.)
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i think mccain would be the oldest person elected president if he won
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mccain is a badass though because he was a vietnam prisoner of war for 5.5 years !

also trivia question: who was the youngest president ever ? wasnt jfk !
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Teddy Roosevelt , at 42 when McKinley was killed .

JFK was the youngest elected president at 43
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mccain is like the republican's lieberman. he belongs to the other party for the most part.

all i really care about this election is electing someone who will NOT support government healthcare (which pretty much just means no democrats). also, hillary scares the crap out of me as she seems to think that government is the answer to all problems, and seems to be a socialist.

also, i am sick and tired of hearing giuliani talk about himself and 911.
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Does Chuck Norris have to knock a brotha out?

Don't mess with Huckabee or Chuck will axe kick your face off, lol.

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Huckabee looks just like that moronic president from one of the seasons of 24

He also looks like some of those Nixon caricatures


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Huckabee looks just like that moronic president from one of the seasons of 24
omg i hated that weasel!
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c'mon, this is a GAMBLING site people!

Hillary Clinton (D) New York Senator: even
Barack Obama (D) Illinois Senator: 3/1
John McCain (R) Arizona Senator: 7/2
Mitt Romney (R) Former Massachusetts Governor: 6/1
Rudy Giuliani (R) Former New York City Mayor: 15/1
Mike Huckabee (R) Former Arkansas Governor: 30/1
John Edwards (D) Former North Carolina Senator: 80/1
 
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c'mon, this is a GAMBLING site people!

Hillary Clinton (D) New York Senator: even
Barack Obama (D) Illinois Senator: 3/1
John McCain (R) Arizona Senator: 7/2
Mitt Romney (R) Former Massachusetts Governor: 6/1
Rudy Giuliani (R) Former New York City Mayor: 15/1
Mike Huckabee (R) Former Arkansas Governor: 30/1
John Edwards (D) Former North Carolina Senator: 80/1
So if there was an election today bill would the the first lady?
 
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Can I get a parlay on President + VP, if I choose them before they are announced?
So you click their picture and then you get their money?
 
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c'mon, this is a GAMBLING site people!

Hillary Clinton (D) New York Senator: even
Barack Obama (D) Illinois Senator: 3/1
John McCain (R) Arizona Senator: 7/2
Mitt Romney (R) Former Massachusetts Governor: 6/1
Rudy Giuliani (R) Former New York City Mayor: 15/1
Mike Huckabee (R) Former Arkansas Governor: 30/1
John Edwards (D) Former North Carolina Senator: 80/1
are these your own odds?

also, fuck hillary. if she gets elected president we can pretty much be guaranteed that we have a second mommy (that is the government), because she will make it so the government is involved in as many parts of your lives as possible.
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are these your own odds?
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The only way the Republican nominee will have a chance is if Billary is the Democratic nominee, imho.
 
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I don't think this country is ready to elect a black or female president, and that will show come election time, not so much in the primaries (obv.) but people tend to shy away from different. Never underestimate someone's willingness to remain comfortable and resist change.
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how is hilary at even money? if anyone wants to bet on her ill take the other side up to any amount
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I would like to preface this by saying that I'm not a Hillary supporter. I don't hate and loathe her (which is a backhanded way of supporting her acc. to some...) but speaking honestly...

I'm a parent with two little kids, and I definitely do not want the government dictating exactly how I raise/discipline/educate my children, however, my wife and I also read quite a lot about parenting and I spend a TON of time trying to raise polite, respectful, happy, thinking, intelligent kids. This is not an easy thing and I by no means are we "highly" successful.. but I like to think we're doing a better than average job of it.

With most other children with whom I interact, they are either spoiled (or insanely wild) or tend to walk on egg shells for fear of being hit by their parent... raising kids is pretty damn hard, and I think the majority of people are failing miserably...

Maybe failing as parents is something that has gone on for all time and therefore it doesn't really matter as much as I think. But I know I had negative aspects of my life that affect me negatively today... and it just kills me to see people essentially abusing little kids (in one way or another).

I'm not advocating for anything in particular, but would it be all that bad offer if there were programs (be they state or federal) that offered support to new families on how not to royally fuck up ones children?

Cliff Notes: kingnat gets a little emo about kids, and offers suggestions about things he doesn't really know a damn thing about.
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I'm easy.
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Hillary is not as socialist as you all seem to think. She is just as in line with the establishment/corporations as any other politician and will act accordingly. Bill did.
 
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how is hilary at even money? if anyone wants to bet on her ill take the other side up to any amount
'cause she's still ahead of Obama in national polls, although I think there'll be movement there. Everyone's waiting to see how Obama does on Super Tuesday, methinks.
 
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all i really care about this election is electing someone who will NOT support government healthcare (which pretty much just means no democrats). also, hillary scares the crap out of me as she seems to think that government is the answer to all problems, and seems to be a socialist.
Out of interest, why don't you favour government healthcare? And what don't you like about socialists?
 
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how is hilary at even money? if anyone wants to bet on her ill take the other side up to any amount
'cause she's still ahead of Obama in national polls, although I think there'll be movement there. Everyone's waiting to see how Obama does on Super Tuesday, methinks.
so u want to put like $100 on it or something?
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if Hilary gets the ticket, I might suicide.

If Obama gets the ticket Im pretty sure its a lock. He is not hate like Hilary, and dems have the momentum seeing as two terms of a republican have landed us in a big huge pile of dog shit.
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all i really care about this election is electing someone who will NOT support government healthcare (which pretty much just means no democrats). also, hillary scares the crap out of me as she seems to think that government is the answer to all problems, and seems to be a socialist.
Out of interest, why don't you favour government healthcare? And what don't you like about socialists?
yah please expand on your anti socialist sentiments. Im not sure if this is what youre saying, but it really makes me lose respect for people who get all up in arms about socialist leaning policies and start referencing communist Russia.
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Its easy.

Having everyone get basic healthcare, while leaving us perfectly able to get our own private healthcare too, would be awesome. Having to pay for it, especially as a poker player who pays obscene %s of taxes, sucks my nuts.
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Its easy.

Having everyone get basic healthcare, while leaving us perfectly able to get our own private healthcare too, would be awesome. Having to pay for it, especially as a poker player who pays obscene %s of taxes, sucks my nuts.
the world is bigger than you.

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I don't think this country is ready to elect a black or female president, and that will show come election time, not so much in the primaries (obv.) but people tend to shy away from different. Never underestimate someone's willingness to remain comfortable and resist change.
QFT. I've been saying this since 2004.

I was thinking about it yesterday and I decided maybe Obama had a chance. The whole 9/11 thing has directed white anger from the darkies to the towel heads. Then I went to lunch today with people from work in BFO...

"Obama has no chance, too many ties to the Muslims"
"Yeah, I mean his middle name is Hussein"
"There aren't many good potentials. I really liked huckabee but looks like he's out"

Don't forget that the majority of Americans aren't thinking educated people. They're rural, god fearing, ignorant type, just ask spoon.

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I don't think this country is ready to elect a black or female president, and that will show come election time, not so much in the primaries (obv.) but people tend to shy away from different. Never underestimate someone's willingness to remain comfortable and resist change.
QFT. I've been saying this since 2004.

I was thinking about it yesterday and I decided maybe Obama had a chance. The whole 9/11 thing has directed white anger from the darkies to the towel heads. Then I went to lunch today with people from work in BFO...

"Obama has no chance, too many ties to the Muslims"
"Yeah, I mean his middle name is Hussein"
"There aren't many good potentials. I really liked huckabee but looks like he's out"

Don't forget that the majority of Americans aren't thinking educated people. They're rural, god fearing, ignorant type, just ask spoon.

Note: Had you asked me today I would have called the people I went to lunch with "thinking people". Not so sure anymore.
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Its easy.

Having everyone get basic healthcare, while leaving us perfectly able to get our own private healthcare too, would be awesome. Having to pay for it, especially as a poker player who pays obscene %s of taxes, sucks my nuts.
the world is bigger than you.

but of course it is your right to chose to ignore this fact and vote accordingly.
The way to stem off the recession that they're blaming Bush for creating is NOT raising taxes to pay for more programs, particularly REALLY expensive ones. Hows that for "bigger than me"
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Its easy.

Having everyone get basic healthcare, while leaving us perfectly able to get our own private healthcare too, would be awesome. Having to pay for it, especially as a poker player who pays obscene %s of taxes, sucks my nuts.
the world is bigger than you.

but of course it is your right to chose to ignore this fact and vote accordingly.
The way to stem off the recession that they're blaming Bush for creating is NOT raising taxes to pay for more programs, particularly REALLY expensive ones. Hows that for "bigger than me"
meh, youre adding variables that dont apply, or I didnt realize applied, to the original debate. Whether now is the time for Universal Health care to be implemented or not is not the point I was attempting to make.
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I love that within 1-4% of the vote in, we "know" who won. Really makes you think your vote counts.

Clinton smoked obama in florida. Thats bad.
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I also love how absolutely farking stupid the american public is.

Pull a random voter off the street and ask him/her to explain the differences in beliefs between hillary and obama, and then again for romney/mccain. I would bet you close to 85% couldn't do it.
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I also love that florida's delegates were stripped of their votes.
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yah, considering our country is the beacon of democracy, its definitely in a sad state of affairs. Thats the problem, people get "the best" confused with "perfect."
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all i really care about this election is electing someone who will NOT support government healthcare (which pretty much just means no democrats). also, hillary scares the crap out of me as she seems to think that government is the answer to all problems, and seems to be a socialist.
Out of interest, why don't you favour government healthcare? And what don't you like about socialists?
yah please expand on your anti socialist sentiments. Im not sure if this is what youre saying, but it really makes me lose respect for people who get all up in arms about socialist leaning policies and start referencing communist Russia.
It's probably has more to do with economics and capitalism then communist Russia.
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Primaries are dumb. The delegate system is dumb. The electoral college is dumb. We are at the point technologically where we can have everyone vote on the same day. Take a popular vote and be done with the fucking thing.
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all i really care about this election is electing someone who will NOT support government healthcare (which pretty much just means no democrats). also, hillary scares the crap out of me as she seems to think that government is the answer to all problems, and seems to be a socialist.
Out of interest, why don't you favour government healthcare? And what don't you like about socialists?
yah please expand on your anti socialist sentiments. Im not sure if this is what youre saying, but it really makes me lose respect for people who get all up in arms about socialist leaning policies and start referencing communist Russia.

Sweden is socialist.

All things are shared.

Conclusion: they (swedes) are all a little crazy
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And finally, I love that there are people that are so rich out there that they can consistently run in third place out of oh.. about three people.. and still pound millions of dollars of campaigning into our economy.

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I don't think this country is ready to elect a black or female president, and that will show come election time, not so much in the primaries (obv.) but people tend to shy away from different. Never underestimate someone's willingness to remain comfortable and resist change.
QFT. I've been saying this since 2004.

I was thinking about it yesterday and I decided maybe Obama had a chance. The whole 9/11 thing has directed white anger from the darkies to the towel heads. Then I went to lunch today with people from work in BFO...

"Obama has no chance, too many ties to the Muslims"
"Yeah, I mean his middle name is Hussein"
"There aren't many good potentials. I really liked huckabee but looks like he's out"

Don't forget that the majority of Americans aren't thinking educated people. They're rural, god fearing, ignorant type, just ask spoon.

Note: Had you asked me today I would have called the people I went to lunch with "thinking people". Not so sure anymore.
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Primaries are dumb. The delegate system is dumb. The electoral college is dumb. We are at the point technologically where we can have everyone vote on the same day. Take a popular vote and be done with the fucking thing.
Seconded.

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