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Okay im just so confused about this right now im seeing what the commune thinks.
I use to have sex with my ex without a condom sometimes using withdrawl method, but then she told me that my precum has semen in it and she can get pregnant. I looked it up briefly and saw that she was right so I stopped and made sure all my friends knew this too.
Recently, I looked that up again and found that there's research that says that there is no semen in precum. The only way you can get preggers (lol) from the withdrawl method is if the precum carries semen from a previous ejaculation. However, that semen is completely removed from your penis when you urinate.
I'm just wondering what peoples experience with this is and if there's any more research they can point me too. Obv i dont want to get an STD and am going to use a condom most of the time, but if its with someone i know is clean but isnt on birth control i would like not to.
Im sure a question is going to be are you willing to risk pregnancy. My answer is no unless its the same or lower than the risk if u use a condom.
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Not sure what websites you checked, but as far as I know you can have kiddos just from precum.
Just wrap it up. If you don't, be ready to deal with the consequences or hope that you're lucky (thankfully I was lucky throughout my entire "career," lol).
Now I'm married, my wife is on birth control *and* we still use condoms (most of the time). With her in school we really don't want to get pregnant right now, so the safer the better.
And yes I did just say "we."
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P.S. My wife says that precum has cum in it. Not a lot, as compared to your actual full load, but there is some. So you can get pregnant from it, but the chance is just like 90% less than a full load.
(P.S. She's worked in a hospital for six years and is in nursing school right now, so she knows a thing or two. She's not an expert, but that should help)
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P.S.S. What are you doing having sex anyway?!?!?
YOU ARE NOT MARRIED YET YOU SINNER SON OF A BITCH!
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im folding laundry ill post the study in a bit.
and LOL George you are awesome and tell Kate thank you for her help.
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Yeah, post that. She'd like to look at it. (she also says don't believe everything you read on the internet) lol
I won't see it for a while as I'm going to our high school's football game tonight (I'm video guy for the team), but I'll check it out later.
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I had 2 kids by using "pulling out" as birth control (yes I didn't learn the first time)
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I had 2 kids by using "pulling out" as birth control (yes I didn't learn the first time)
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This is very important info.
Question: Did you urinate before your last gizz when you had the sex that made the baby?
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09-21-2007, 11:47 PM
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LOL, this is one of the dumbest things I ever heard. The 'withdrawal method' isn't even a method. Do it if you want to get her pregnant by all means... WTF research have you been reading to suggest otherwise lol?
Get her on the pill or injection if you really don't want to wear a hat...
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Lol ISF you are an irresponsible idiot if you even consider this as a form of contraception. Doubly so if you'd do it with someone you don't know well (not just for the STD risk - and unless she's a bona fide virgin the odds of you "knowing" she's clean are tiny - but also because, hey, impregnating someone you're not in a strong relationship with is a pretty undesirable outcome of 2 minutes of marginally improved pleasure).
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If you want to have intercourse again on the same night, the man should go and pass urine (to flush out any sperms), and then wash his penis carefully to get rid of any seminal fluid. The woman too should wash herself, if the man has ejaculated over her body.
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If you've been reading some dumb study I suggest you read over the part where it talks about pissing. It refers to having sex AGAIN in the same night. This does not mean that the the first time you had sex that night the pre-cum contains no sperm - it means the second time to reduc ethe risk you should piss to remove the sperm...but still there is a risk from precum
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....for people who have access to sensible, modern methods of contraception, coitus interruptus is a poor alternative.
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I'm not going to escalate this thread. But I'd like to point out I don't understand why people are berating me for being dumb. All its doing is making me feel animosity towards the posters who pointed this out. Although I think you're right it was dumb, the month that i did it i felt so stressed out that she was pregnant I never did it ever again.
Oh btw here's some of the things I'm talking about.
Not a great link.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_pre-cum
Here is another wiki site but there is a part that cites a study
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/I_have_had..._i_be_pregnant
"Journal of Assisted Reproduction Genetics, 2003 Apr;20(4):157-9. Zukerman asked "Does preejaculatory penile secretion originating from Cowper's gland contain sperm?" - conclusion: "Preejaculatory fluid secreted at the tip of the urethra from Cowper's gland during sexual stimulation did not contain sperm and therefore cannot be responsible for pregnancies during coitus interruptus."
There you go.
I'm interested in posts that involve, such as TylerK's post, that is peoples experiences or studies they have seen.
Oh biondino: I was refering to my ex who has only had sex with one person. Me. This is beside the subject i want to touch on though.
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09-22-2007, 01:12 AM
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LOL, this is one of the dumbest things I ever heard. The 'withdrawal method' isn't even a method.
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... how is it not a method?
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09-22-2007, 01:26 AM
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... how is it not a method?
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Isn't anything that a person does that involes ont thing then another in a certain order a "method"?
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I started a new job so don't play much ATM, just FTP mini grind
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09-22-2007, 01:42 AM
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I use to have sex with my ex without a condom sometimes using withdrawl method
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... how is it not a method?
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Isn't anything that a person does that involes ont thing then another in a certain order a "method"?
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oh cmon guys are you serious? Lets not challenge the exact wording of what they said, we all know what he meant.
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that just ain't right
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our game got postponed due to lightning tonight. my wife is reading this post with me and she just LOL'ed for real at the sight of your post.
good job, sir.
P.S. I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY GODDAMMIT!
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Apparently some people have forgotten what it's like to be young. ISF, you'll be the first to admit that it wasn't the smartest thing you've ever done.....but trust me, plenty of guys on here have "been there and done that," and just about everyone has done something they probably regret in their lifetime.
Just make sure you learn from your mistake and be thankful that you won't have a little one running around nine months from now.
And next time.......put your rain coat on when it's raining!
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Condoms are 15% failure (per year) with normal use, 2% failure perfect use.
Withdrawal is 19% failure normal use, 4% failure perfect use.
Contrary to popular belief, condoms are not much more effective.
Search Wiki for "Comparison_of_birth_control_methods"
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Wrap that puppy and stop being a dumbass. You produce BILLIONS of sperm. It takes ONE to fertilize an ovum. DO THE FUCKING MATH.
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Don't gamble with having a kid before you're ready. Get the girlfriend on birth control of some sort ASAP and it would probably be a good idea to find out where you stand on abortion and such.
That said, I think the failure rate on condoms is vastly over-estimated. Too many people are too dishonest/stupid and the 2% number is over a period of time and not each time you have sex.
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09-22-2007, 02:46 AM
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I use to have sex with my ex without a condom sometimes using withdrawl method, but then she told me that my precum has semen in it and she can get pregnant. I looked it up briefly and saw that she was right so I stopped and made sure all my friends knew this too.
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This made me laugh so much.
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Condoms are 15% failure (per year) with normal use, 2% failure perfect use.
Withdrawal is 19% failure normal use, 4% failure perfect use.
Contrary to popular belief, condoms are not much more effective.
Search Wiki for "Comparison_of_birth_control_methods"
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Lyric you seem to browse the forums all the time but you never stop in! What gives? Your assesment was what made me start this thread.
I agree with Fnord though, but understand the 2% isnt "a 2% chance on everytime u have sex" It's a 2% chance you get pregnant in a given year for couples having sex regularly.
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Yes it can get her pregnant. Start looking after u both or you could end up with a nasty ORLY shock.
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F*** this and that. You stupid son of a b****. You are dumb. Yada yada yada.
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09-22-2007, 03:43 AM
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I use to have sex with my ex without a condom sometimes using withdrawl method
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LOL, this is one of the dumbest things I ever heard. The 'withdrawal method' isn't even a method.
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... how is it not a method?
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Isn't anything that a person does that involes ont thing then another in a certain order a "method"?
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oh cmon guys are you serious? Lets not challenge the exact wording of what they said, we all know what he meant.
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Sorry ISF, I realise that your question is serious. I believe it's not a great method of birth control mate, but at the right time of the month when your woman is less fertile you should(??) be ok.
I read a couple of things that said an average failure rate of about 19%, seems pretty high so I'd say you're at a pretty good risk of pregnancy.
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I started a new job so don't play much ATM, just FTP mini grind
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Don't they teach you this stuff in school? (serious question).
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lol Fnord.
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ISF, don't worry about it
that is why they made the morning after pill
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OMFG this blog is to fkn funny roflmfao.......
I dont have this prob im young and dumb and blow when ever and where ever i can......hey i woulden't sit there if i was you
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I use condoms every time.
Too many of my friends got their ladies preggo at an early age. She said she was on the pill... is what I'd always hear. I say to hell with not wearing a condon, just in case you know? I don't find the risk rewarding enough without it.
I keep a clotheshanger near my bed at all times just in case.
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Drunken sex = fucked up reflexes. Never mind the precum - I've always had difficulties actually pulling the damn thing out when drunk. Luckily I run goot, no pregnancies (that I know of).
Wear a hat or SIIHP.
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i did it for 2 yrs on pull out, never had a 'problem'
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obviously 1/2 way through the act you need to pull out and piss all over her to kill the precum.
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I've never had sex with a condom on, my first time I tried and failed miserably, after that I've just said fuck it. I always get a little scared the next day, not about pregnancy, but about STDs. Yea, I'm being stupid but I just hate the damn things.
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09-22-2007, 03:36 PM
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Im sure a question is going to be are you willing to risk pregnancy. My answer is no unless its the same or lower than the risk if u use a condom.
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You seriously answered your own question here. There's no way you're going to get a correct answer that says pulling out > condom.
Use condom every time with randoms.
When you're in a relationship, you're in a position to discuss your stance on birth control, abortion, etc. and that changes the game a bit.
The worst thing that can happen is having kids with someone you don't want kids with.
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I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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