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Post subject: The Russia vs. Georgia vs. South Ossetia thread
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This whole thing is a big cluster fuck. But really not a ton of media coverage. So this is my take on the situation.
Georgia is like pretty wrong for attacking South Ossetia, I mean on one hand they did not want South Ossetia to secede on the other kind of a dick move to attack them violence isn't the answer ya know?
South Ossetia they should be able to be independent if they want I guess. But I dunno enough to really comment on it (not that that will not stop me from commenting on the rest of this!)
Russia I understand trying to defend your peoples, but I think they took it a little to far they are bombing the shit outa all of Georgia and not just were Georgia attacked South Ossetia.
America, well Russia is pissed at us for helping Georgia soldiers get from Iraq or Afghanistan back to Georgia, but I mean Georgia is kinda getting its shit pushed in by Russia so it is pretty understandable that we are shuttling them home to help. But America is all running its mouth on Russia because we like Georgia for some reason. Even though our guy invaded another country (yay American hypocrisy we are good at that)
So pretty much everyone is in the wrong here. One wrong land slided into like 4 more wrongs.
WW3 IMO
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i thought georgia played LSU for the opener
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There are many WW3 situations I'm following relatively closely
India vs Pakistan
Israel (featuring somehow the USA) vs Palestine and the Rest of the Arab World
Russia vs Georgia vs South Ossetia
Iran vs USA
North Korea (featuring Russia & China) vs USA
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Would you take measures to avoid a draft if one was put in place in the USA?
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Depends on the circumstances. Something like WW2 I might join up. Something like the current war I would swim the Detroit river to Canada.
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NATO should just come to Georgia's defense and Russia will back off. They're just attacking a small country because they think they can get away with it.
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But America is all running its mouth on Russia because we like Georgia for some reason.
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It's because they're just about the only legitimate democracy in the former Soviet bloc. This is our chance to show whether we really care about promoting democracy in the Middle East. I'll be really upset if the US and Europe stand on the sidelines here.
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I knew a chick from Georgia. She was a foreign exchange student. She got sent back because her host family caught her smoking cigarettes and thought this was just an abomination.
I hope shes still alive. She was cool.
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Would you take measures to avoid a draft if one was put in place in the USA?
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Most of you would be singing Oh Canada in a big time hurry imo.
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Well it looked like this was over but now it seems like it is just beginning.
It took Russia like 2 days to invade and it is going to take them 2 weeks to withdraw? lol
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someone give cliff notes, I tried to read an FAQ on BBC and I left more confused than ever. This Ossetia place is a part of where and broke away from where?
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I teach 11th grade American History.
Today, no shit, I had a kid come up and ask me why "The United States hadn't retaliated against Russia for bombing Georgia." I gave him my answer and he gave me a really confused look and said, "That just doesn't seem like us. Russia is bombing the United States, I mean, even though it is just the state of Georgia.....it just seems like we should do something about that, like we should nuke 'em or something."
I about fell down on the floor because the kid was dead serious. He actually thought the state of Georgia, the Peach State, was under attack.
Holy fuck.
(P.S. And yes, I did see the thread where a similar thing happened on another forum and somebody posted it....I didn't think people could be that dumb but apparently they're out there. And they go to my school.)
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someone give cliff notes, I tried to read an FAQ on BBC and I left more confused than ever. This Ossetia place is a part of where and broke away from where?
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Ossetia is Russian for Atlanta. They already took Savannah.
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i see what you did there, Georgia is a state AND a country! EPIC
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i see what you did there, Georgia is a state AND a country! EPIC
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It's because they're just about the only legitimate democracy in the former Soviet bloc.
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On the surface, sure. But oil keeps rearing it's black head in all of this as well.
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someone give cliff notes, I tried to read an FAQ on BBC and I left more confused than ever. This Ossetia place is a part of where and broke away from where?
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Georpia use to be part of Russia, they broke away. Ossetia use to be part of Georgia they broke away. Georgia invaded Ossetia to take it back, then Russia invaded Georgia because they are BFFs with Ossetia. But Russia went a little over board and fucked up Georgia pretty bad. America likes Georgia so we went Russia outa Georgia.
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someone give cliff notes, I tried to read an FAQ on BBC and I left more confused than ever. This Ossetia place is a part of where and broke away from where?
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http://earth.google.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian-Ossetian_conflict
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_South_Ossetia_war
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/eu...orgia.ossetia/
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NATO wont do anything because almost half the countries in it depend on Russia for energy, at least that's word on the street
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this is exactly what the beginning of WW3 will look like. a bit moreso than issues with the middle east and korea. the reason is that a great way for huge wars to start is due to alliances. itty bitty country attacks itty bitty country, world power comes to defend, different world power comes to defend against other world power = WW3.
whereas it is more likely that nobody huge would come to the defense of iran.
also imo nobody hates US more than russia. the reason for this is that russia is second place and has been for a long time.
and i cant get drafted due to disability woot
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this is exactly what the beginning of WW3 will look like. a bit moreso than issues with the middle east and korea. the reason is that a great way for huge wars to start is due to alliances. itty bitty country attacks itty bitty country, world power comes to defend, different world power comes to defend against other world power = WW3.
whereas it is more likely that nobody huge would come to the defense of iran.
also imo nobody hates US more than russia. the reason for this is that russia is second place and has been for a long time.
and i cant get drafted due to disability woot
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NATO wont do anything because almost half the countries in it depend on Russia for energy, at least that's word on the street
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Yup, Europe is out.
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Ohhh shit I can't get drafted either, score one for metal rods in my leg.
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Oh, hell yeah. You'd be first.
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Oh, hell yeah. You'd be first. |
I thought 18 year olds were first.
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18-26 year olds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_System
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Would the draft reach someone that's 24 in a month and working?
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Oh, hell yeah. You'd be first. |
I thought 18 year olds were first. |
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Oh, hell yeah. You'd be first. |
I thought 18 year olds were first. |
Just turn gay. Queers can't fight for freedom. |
Yes, yes...I will turn gay....quite different from what i am now
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seriously doubt there will ever be a draft. also doubt there will ever be another world war
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seriously doubt there will ever be a draft. also doubt there will ever be another world war
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I actually read an entire wufwugy post.
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someone give cliff notes, I tried to read an FAQ on BBC and I left more confused than ever. This Ossetia place is a part of where and broke away from where?
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Georpia use to be part of Russia, they broke away. Ossetia use to be part of Georgia they broke away. Georgia invaded Ossetia to take it back, then Russia invaded Georgia because they are BFFs with Ossetia. But Russia went a little over board and fucked up Georgia pretty bad. America likes Georgia so we went Russia outa Georgia. |
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Don't forget about North Ossetia, which is still part of Russia. They're BFFs with South Ossetia so it's a whole friends against friends thing going on.
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Putin claims US staged the conflict. This interview is quite scary actually.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIi_tIHtkp8
"We have serious reasons to believe that American citizens were right at the heart of the military action. This would have implications for American domestic policy. If this is confirmed, we will have grounds to suspect that somebody in the U.S. has created this conflict to aggravate the situation and create a competitive advantage for one of the presidential candidates".
Russia's Prime Minister also commented on the media coverage of the recent events.
"As far as the perception of these events by the general public goes, it depends not only on politicians, but also on how artful they are in controlling the mass media. And our American colleagues do this much better than we do and there's a lot we can learn from them".
Putin stressed that Russia did not attack and cannot be portrayed as an aggressor.
"We didn't attack anyone, we were attacked and therefore we need guarantees that we won't be attacked again, and that our citizens won't be killed. They are trying to present us as aggressors".
The Prime Minister has given a detailed chronology of the events between August 7 and 10.
"On 7 August, at 14:42, the Georgian peacekeepers left the headquarters of the peacekeeping forces under the pretext that they'd received orders from their commanders to leave their posts, and they never returned.
One hour later, heavy artillery shelling began.
At 22:35 a massive bombardment of Tsklhinval started. At 22:50 the transfer of Georgian ground troops started to the combat area. At the same time Georgian field hospitals were set up.
And at 23:30 the Brigadeer General commanding the Georgian peacekeeping forces announced that Georgia has declared a war against South Ossetia. They announced this publicly, looking straight into the TV cameras.
At that point we tried to contact the Georgian leadership, but everyone refused to talk to us.
At 12:45 AM on the 8th of August the Georgian commander repeated his statement. So who attacked whom?"
The former Russian president reiterated that the country has 'no intention of attacking anyone, or of fighting a war with anyone'.
"For eight years while I was President I often heard one and the same question -- what place does Russia think it should occupy in the world? We are a peace-loving state and want to co-operate with all our neighbours and other states. But if someone thinks they can just come in and kill us, and that our place is in the cemetery, these people should think of the consequences of such policies".
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Putin is so full of shit lol
As much as we like to complain about America being oppressive etc it is because we love our freedom, Russia is all about oppression.
This shit is snowballing towards a pretty dangerous conclusion. America wants to put missiles in Poland and Russia said it will "react" if we do that... So yeah this could get interesting.
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