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08-31-2009, 08:31 PM
Post subject: Round 7: Adolf Hitler vs. HIV/AIDS
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
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I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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till they come up with a cure for aids it gets my vote.
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a500lbgorilla
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I've never met Hitler. But I take it on faith when everyone else says he's the worst person ever.
I've also never met AIDS, though. I think you've definitely found something that'll beat out Hitler.
I think Imma vote Hitler.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Renton
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i think josef mengele was worse than hitler.
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AIDS will make you sick ripped
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by Renton
i think josef mengele was worse than hitler.
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I'm trying to avoid person vs person match-ups since they'll probably hinge on whoever is the most well-known.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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wufwugy
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^ That's a good way of doing it. Also, PvP matchups take away a lot of the necessary abstraction that keep these things going
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commune is downswing hard.
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commune is downswing hard.
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So is your avatar.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Has to be Hitler, cos AIDS is indiscriminate in its killing and doesn't make a conscious choice about who it kills.
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boost
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NIEN NIEN NIEN!
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Has to be Hitler, cos AIDS is indiscriminate in its killing and doesn't make a conscious choice about who it kills.
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Doesn't that make AIDS worse?
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Originally Posted by DanAronG
Has to be Hitler, cos AIDS is indiscriminate in its killing and doesn't make a conscious choice about who it kills.
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Doesn't that make AIDS worse? |
That would also make humans the most parasitic lifeforms on the planet
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Originally Posted by DanAronG
Has to be Hitler, cos AIDS is indiscriminate in its killing and doesn't make a conscious choice about who it kills.
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Doesn't that make AIDS worse? |
No.
To systematically round up a group of people and slaughter them is far worse.
It's like manslaughter and murder in some respects. It's the premeditation that makes one the more heinous crime.
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hey guys, if you ever make a snap call on the river when your opponent raises you're fucking retarded.
Fucking. Retarded.
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Has to be Hitler, cos AIDS is indiscriminate in its killing and doesn't make a conscious choice about who it kills.
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Doesn't that make AIDS worse? |
That would also make humans the most parasitic lifeforms on the planet |
yep, can't really argue with that.
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hey guys, if you ever make a snap call on the river when your opponent raises you're fucking retarded.
Fucking. Retarded.
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Originally Posted by UN AIDS Agency
In 2007, it was estimated that 33.2 million people lived with the disease worldwide, and that AIDS killed an estimated 2.1 million people, including 330,000 children.
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The rate of new HIV/AIDS infections is on the decrease but it won't be long before it's whooped Hitler on the bodycount, if it hasn't already.
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- You're the reason why paradise lost
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Hitler, hands down.....
And no Renton, Mengele wasnt worse than Hitler....
Without Hitler there would have been no Mengele
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How do you measure the worst of disease against the worst of man?
Cancer vrs Pol Pot
Alzheimer's vrs Stalin
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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a500lbgorilla
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Also i found a cool vrs pick for the future.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Originally Posted by UN AIDS Agency
In 2007, it was estimated that 33.2 million people lived with the disease worldwide, and that AIDS killed an estimated 2.1 million people, including 330,000 children.
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So basically by 2075 or so it will have destroyed Hitler's body count.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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No way aids has only killed 2.1 million people lifetime.
http://www.avert.org/worldstats.htm
Maybe in '07, but i think it's easily lapped Hitler for direct deaths caused.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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a500lbgorilla
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I feel like dying to a great disease is the same as dying to a great human human-killer. It's a hardship/challenge that life brings you, and you die to it. If you and 6 million others die to either a disease or a person, I really don't think that's the point. Hitler could have killed 400 million jews over a 70 year lifespan. AIDs could jump-the-shark and kill 400 million people by New Years 2015. People and peoples lives are wholly ineffective metrics for 'worse.' And I haven't the slightest clue on how to meaningfully measure these two against each other.
My vote is Hitler, because of his Charlie Chaplin mustache.
Edit yuck, I wish I picked AIDs. By which way I would less like to die, man or disease, I gotta say I want to avoid Hitler's death camps. Having another man look me up and down and say "Jew? *points* Furnace." Fuck that. I hate to know that I could have died that way, that people died that way. But AIDs is an almost unknowable enemy. Keeping your enemies closer is easy when your enemy is a person. Relate-able and understandable. But AIDs just rolls, rides until it dies. And we haven't the slightest sense on how to kill it. Hitler at least had the decency to fucking die when he killed himself. AIDs doesn't even give us that.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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boost
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I kinda think these polls have run their course.
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Eventually HIV/AIDS will be curable and this will be a moot question.
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Originally Posted by GatorJH
till they come up with a cure for aids it gets my vote.
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This has to be it though.
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Hmm... I think it depends on if we are voting for which is worse or which is the better killer?
While Hitler was more focused, as well as more creative, AIDS is elegant as a killer.
Gotta go with the AIDS... there was a cure for hitler, there isn't one for aids yet... but you can avoid AIDS... well, I suppose you could have avoided hitler too... so still gotta go AIDS>
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Originally Posted by boost
I kinda think these polls have run their course.
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I'd like to think there are atleast 3 great vs threads left. Plenty of beating left for this dead horse.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Halv
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afaik no one ever raped a virgin believing it would kill hitler.
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afaik no one ever raped a virgin believing it would kill hitler.
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????? ?? ?????? ???????????
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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boost
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afaik no one ever raped a virgin believing it would kill hitler.
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????? ?? ?????? ??????????? |
some fringe religions/tribes in africa hold the belief that set with a virgin will cure you of aids..
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Originally Posted by HalvSame
afaik no one ever raped a virgin believing it would kill hitler.
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????? ?? ?????? ??????????? |
some fringe religions/tribes in africa hold the belief that set with a virgin will cure you of aids.. |
Yep, I heard that too - no wonder it's so fucking rampant.
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This might well be true but I didn't quote it as such as I heard that cases of new infections were on the decline.
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Mengele may not be worse than Hitler in the sense that Hitler gave Mengele his power, but goddamn Mengele was FUCKED UP. The man performed non-anesthetic, 'experimental' surgeries on children every fucking day, and without a drop of remorse. It's one thing to harm people by signing a document, but it's another to harm people with your bare hands
There are still some interesting matchups left, but there is one side that once used should never lose. Kinda doubt it will be used though.
As far as AIDS goes, this is one of the less bad of the major diseases. There may be no vaccine, but it's no longer a huge death threat if you have money. The problem with AIDS now is pretty much all Africa. AIDS has killed about 25 million, while Hitler is responsible for 50-70 million deaths (WWII and Holocaust)
Personally I just don't think AIDS is that interesting. There are diseases out there that will fucking blow your mind at how insanely fucked up they are, but AIDS is not one of them (I think it has killed the most people, but other than that, its fucked up scale is pretty low). The fucked up ness of AIDS comes from things like virgin rape. But the thing is that Africa wouldn't be much less fucked up without AIDS anyways. We point at rape due to AIDS superstition, but don't realize that most of the rape would still happen without AIDS. Rape is actually a very proliferate aspect of poor, anarchistic societies. Being a woman and not having a high likelyhood of getting raped is actually a phenomenon of massively civilized societies. I would bet a lot of money that all of us have a deep ancestry of raped mothers. That's just how it works in male dominated societies that rise and collapse over resources. We see little rape in our society (even though it's likely still a big number like 15-20% of women) because of womens rights and militaristic stability
I'm gonna see if I can find a write up on fucked up diseases. That shit will blow your mind
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blow my mind wuf
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I'm looking for one particular web page that was linked on a different forum two years ago. It illustrates the most disgusting diseases, viruses, and birth defects known
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Bubonic plague.
I bet there are some nasty, genetically engineered biological weapons/super viruses in government laboratories throughout the world.
Something like 100% death rate, airborne, bypasses the immune system, etc.
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wufwugy
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Smallpox is a pretty horrible disease. It currently only exists in two containment facilities in US and Russia.
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Meh this is getting boring to me, let wufwugy take over the series of threads.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Well, here you go. Most disturbing diseases and defects known. Been two years since I read this, but I recall Harlequin Fetus being particularly insane
http://www.asylumeclectica.com/asylu...ves/index.html
Intelligent Design, indeed! God loves His Creation so much!
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Well, here you go. Most disturbing diseases and defects known. Been two years since I read this, but I recall Harlequin Fetus being particularly insane
http://www.asylumeclectica.com/asylu...ves/index.html
Intelligent Design, indeed! God loves His Creation so much! |
Wow. Really, wow.
Surely though the original question Hitler Vs. HIV/AIDS was "which is worse" not which was more fucked up. Because there are other more fucked up diseases this shouldn't directly affect your vote on the original question.
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wufwugy
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I derail threads
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