Ron Paul Black Out Campaign

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Considering drugs and war are two massive issues atm, VOTE FOR RON PAUL!

Worst case scenario is he gets elected, gets the ball rolling, 4 years later we vote in his kid to clean up dad's mess on the other stuff. EZ PZ LEMON SQUeeZE

oh, that doesn't sound familiar at all-- wait a second...

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you sir win an internet.

[Roid_Rage]

It doesn't count cuz he's not from Texahhh...shit nevermind.

[dranger7070]

BOB DOLE

[wufwugy]

looks like massive electoral fraud in maine. romney/establishment gop stole the caucuses from paul

The BRAD BLOG : More on The Maine Republican Party's Stolen 2012 GOP Caucuses - And How It Appears They Did It...

[dranger7070]

Shocker.

[BooG690]

Ron Paul gaining momentum:

"I Think Ron Paul Just Won Iowa!" Rachel Maddow April 23, 2012 - YouTube!
Ron Paul wins Minnesota and Iowa - Romney lollygags along as the media darling

[dranger7070]

Lol, seems too little, too late, no?

[dranger7070]

Snap. Just read your link. Haven't been paying much attention to this stuff the last 6-8 weeks and didn't realize Santorum dropped out. ONE TIME RON PAUL.

[wufwugy]

It's partly an inside joke. Paul isn't a contender, and nobody really knows what he's doing. Perhaps he's looking to get stronger placement in the RNC through delegate acquisition, but he's not gonna get that far even then

[BooG690]

Brokered convention - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ONE TIME!

[a500lbgorilla]

Paul v Obama would break our entire generation.

[kiwiMark]

Did you guys know Obama's black?

[a500lbgorilla]

He's a well-melanined white, bro.

[kiwiMark]

Having dark skin doesn't make somebody malign, that's totally uncalled for.

[wufwugy]

hu, paul only got 40% against romney in virginia

paul has no chance whatsoever in any national primary or general. ive defended him more than just about anybody other than his diehard paulites, but i still wouldnt vote for him against obama. i would very much like to see some places the debate would go, but not others. besides, the gop would sabotage paul if they had to; they will not let him or his opinions be the majority position of the party. the gop is pro-fascism (business/government merger), pro-war, pro-racism, pro-evangelical, pro-inequality, and pro-ignorance. paul is only like half of those, so he's never getting anywhere nationally

don't forget the quote "that which paul believes that is right, he believes for the wrong reasons". he is very much a paleoconservative whose ideals are not much similar to anything remotely progressive and cultured. it's really wild west stuff

also dont forget that his ideologies are not logistically applicable either. libertarians have a lot of these problems too. one example is the idea of private property. the right-wing stops there, all they say is "private-property", but don't understand what it takes to actually enforce private property. what it takes, in the real world, is some extremely expensive and intrusive government. waaaaaaay more than what is found in socialism. so you can't have ideas like private property and small government at the same time.

[wufwugy]

Ron Paul wins Maine : politics

[BooG690]

Ron Paul wins Maine : politics

<sarcasm>This has restored my faith in the American election system</sarcasm>

[JKDS]

[kiwiMark]

don't you guys have to choose a new bossman, like, this year though? would've thought your teams had to pick captains by now so they can debate for my pleasure and such

[wufwugy]

i think the final primary date is in like june or july. and if they dont actually get somebody with a majority of votes (ahem, delegates), then all bets are off and anybody can be chosen

It'll still be Romney though. The only way it couldn't be is if the disease that kept propelling each new "not-Romney" up the ladder is still at play, at the delegate level, and technically able to keep Romney from getting a majority of state votes

I don't think there's any way Paul can win because enough of the big states are winner-take-all, where Romney will win

This could get interesting if there are a couple key things happening. Paulites would think of it as a huge victory for their agenda, but reality is it would still be a huge part of the not-Romney thing

[wufwugy]

BTW, Romney can't win the General. I'm not sure why he has the rich donors he does. Actually, I am sure: they have way too much money, and they're all buddy buddies. This is a game at the country club for them.

But anyways, Romney can't win because he is simply not popular enough. We would need another financial collapse at be losing a ton of jobs for Obama to not get reelected IMO

[Renton]

Romney up 3 and 5 points in the latest polls. I basically agree with you wufwugy but it's hard to ignore that Romney has steadily been climbing in the GE polls in the past few weeks.

[wufwugy]

I don't think GE polls this far out are reliable. Plus Romney got a post-confirmation boost

Anyways, the key states polling is a bit different. Obama is doing quite well in places like Ohio and Virginia

I have Obama winning every state he did last time except Indiana, North Carolina, and Florida. The Southwest is shifting blue quite swiftly by way of regional influence of the West and Hispanics. It's possible that Arizona will actually be a swing state.

The same can be said for the entire North (except redneck Indiana). Virginia looks like they have some crazy demographic shifts that may have made them lean blue, and Ohio is in the process of becoming a blue stronghold, I think.

Another sort of polling that is more important to look at is favorability among women. While Obama has lost some of his enormous lead in young voters, he's gained enormously in women. And as Woody told Ed Harris in Game Change, Romney couldn't win if he lost women by 5 points. Which he's gonna do. The Dems were pretty brilliant on the whole contraception thing, they let the GOP make women fucking hate them. Like the GOP has done their racist/religious Southern Strategy, the Dems seem to be picking up on a Womens Strategy (plus minorities, youths, urban, and North)

I'm trying to keep this short, but just one more point I want to make is that regional influence is such a huge deal. It's why Santorum did so well in the MidNorth states. Anyways, Nevada, New Mexico, and Colorado are becoming like the West and the Hispanics; Iowa has always been rather reasonable in the GE, but the stuff Barry has done with Michigan is making that whole region a bit stronger, and I think the stuff with women is making states like Iowa and Ohio much more powerfully blue; and Virginia may be shifting blue. On the flip side, Florida is fucking crazy because they should be much more blue than they are, but they get a ton of encroachment from the South (and old people), so it's possible they eventually become a somewhat solid red. But every other state that is shifting is doing so on the blue side

GOP is in loads of trouble. Especially when you consider their politics rely on white men, yet in just a few decades, they won't be able to win one single General due to minorities being the majority


The sense of it is that Obama has many, many paths to win, while Romney has very few, and they're all rather difficult to pull off

[wufwugy]

If you haven't seen it, this site is tight to play around with

2012 Presidential Election Interactive Map and History of the Electoral College

Texas is gonna be a swing state by 2024 IMO. Then it's game over for the GOP, but they won't change because their inbred curmudgeon voters will still be not dead