Separate the ideas for me because I sound close enough.
11-19-2014 08:12 PM
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Separate the ideas for me because I sound close enough. | |
11-19-2014 08:15 PM
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Yeah, we live in a monogamous society but I was talking about monoamary. Same difference. | |
11-19-2014 08:16 PM
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You're only right when you exhaust wrongness. I will always be wrong, but that wrongness is a part of discovering that which is correct. The real problem is when learning what is wrong is devalued |
11-19-2014 08:19 PM
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Yeah, economics is full of it on that one. | |
11-19-2014 08:30 PM
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They're not full of it on that one. It appears that the dissenters of rational choice theory in behavioral economics simply don't understand rational choice theory. The dissent seems a little much like the "god of the gaps" fallacy, where if you can't explain how something is rational, just call it irrational |
11-19-2014 08:34 PM
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The difference is this: | |
11-19-2014 09:15 PM
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On the topic of polyamory: Primarily, women are driven biologically to find the single strongest male they can to mate with, so it doesn't really work for them to begin with in the general sense. On the other hand, men are driven to mate with as many of the best females that they can get as they can handle. Polyamory being socially acceptable leads to polygamy with the same problems because of these dynamics. | |
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11-19-2014 09:21 PM
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Polygamy is about marriage and polyamory isn't. That's a huge, huge difference. Polyamory is just about how you conduct your relationship. You can be married to one person and be polyamorous. | |
Last edited by aubreymcfate; 11-19-2014 at 09:49 PM.
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11-19-2014 09:24 PM
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I know many polyamorous and happy women, lol. | |
Last edited by aubreymcfate; 11-19-2014 at 09:39 PM.
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11-19-2014 09:33 PM
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I do wonder whether monogamy would remain prevalent if polyamory was socially acceptable. For the current generation, I would say yes, because it would be too uncomfortable of a shift for most people. But future generations... I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if monogamy was the majority, but I just don't know. Maybe I should finally read Chris Ryan, lol. | |
Last edited by aubreymcfate; 11-19-2014 at 09:40 PM.
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11-19-2014 09:59 PM
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Biological determinism is pretty much always wrong. We have no reason to believe that women seek fewer sexual partners than men. In fact, we have reason to believe the sexes seek equal number of partners. The idea that women seek fewer partners is pretty much just a product of investiture and passing things down through the male line. When we look at cultures that most resemble the natural state of humans and what reflects the environment in which we evolved, the sexes have equal amount of partners. If we want to discuss biology, we have sexual organs that favor this notion as well |
11-19-2014 10:08 PM
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The dichotomy is false. Both use assumptions and models |
11-19-2014 10:09 PM
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Last edited by spoonitnow; 11-19-2014 at 10:13 PM. | |
11-19-2014 10:09 PM
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11-19-2014 10:14 PM
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11-19-2014 10:35 PM
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Last edited by a500lbgorilla; 11-19-2014 at 10:38 PM. | |
11-19-2014 10:37 PM
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And yeah, I'd bet most women would practice polyamory. Though I still don't see the huge difference between amory and gamy. | |
Last edited by a500lbgorilla; 11-19-2014 at 10:49 PM. | |
11-19-2014 10:51 PM
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The difference is marriage which is a legally binding contract. It's not just something between two people anymore, it involves the government. Maybe there's not a huge difference emotionally but when we're talking about societal repercussions, I'd imagine there is one. | |
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11-19-2014 11:05 PM
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Philosophically, rational choice theory is unfalsifiable and tautological. The wiki on it even says so |
11-19-2014 11:07 PM
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They say polyamory is really hard. Which I assume it is and/or can be. Instead of having one person who deserves to know what's going on with you and deserves your attention, you have two! Or three! Or four! Or polyamoooore! |
11-19-2014 11:15 PM
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11-19-2014 11:22 PM
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11-19-2014 11:34 PM
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I seriously can't believe that you know its tautological and unfalsifiable and still hold to it. That means it's impossible to ever be shown to be wrong. You have the answer because you have the answer. This is how religions are formed. | |
11-19-2014 11:56 PM
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It is a perspective, not a proof. The foundation of all truths/sciences have assumptions at their roots and are unfalsifiable tautology. Rational choice theory is an assumption about the foundation of behavior. It basically says "when somebody makes a choice, they made that choice because from the perspective they had, it was the most desired". This is hardly that debatable a concept even though it is just an assumption. You can't find an example where somebody made a choice and that choice was not the most desired. Everything we understand about choosing is that we choose the most desired. Even when that choice is "wrong" in any way, it was still the most desired because choices made by definition are of the most desired |
11-20-2014 12:38 AM
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One way of looking at it is the word "preference". When we speak of choice, we also speak of preference, even when unknown. Full logical regression of preference shows that it's tautology (I prefer it because I prefer it). Rational choice theory is basically trying to make that point. It says that it's wrong to claim that people make preferences they do not prefer. Much good was done for the economics profession when it became consensus that preference is indeed preference. As strange as it may sound, it's not the most common thing in social sciences to be as logical as that. A lot of people inadvertently make claims that imply preference isn't preference |
11-20-2014 01:48 PM
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The argument over equality is essentially an argument over what constitutes fairness. Here's an example with sexism: | |
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11-21-2014 07:49 AM
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random thread no longer really random | |
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11-21-2014 08:02 AM
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15.6 divided by purple. | |
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11-21-2014 08:07 AM
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OUGHT-A-CHOKE DAT BITCH | |
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11-21-2014 10:51 AM
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I keep waiting for Bill Cosby to start suing women who make claims of sexual assault against him 20+ years ago with no evidence. These women are getting all kinds of money out of dragging his name through the mud, and I think it's only fair that he gets his cut. | |
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11-21-2014 02:08 PM
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there is an alternate universe where emily blunt and i are happily married and have sex 14 times a week. and for that i pat myself on the back. | |
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11-21-2014 03:10 PM
#15707
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I'm married to Bjork in the 90's in my alternate universe. | |
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11-21-2014 03:20 PM
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Ong, if you go by the infinite universe theory. Somewhere right now I'm fucking you in the assas I type. | |
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11-21-2014 03:25 PM
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11-21-2014 03:47 PM
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Out with my girlfriend, I just saw a woman with a low-cut GUESS tee shirt. I said to her, "Tits?". Don't think she got it though. | |
11-21-2014 03:50 PM
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Stop bragging. | |
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11-21-2014 04:54 PM
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I don't buy into this infinite universe theory. I guess there's a ridiculously small probability that I am in the one universe where I never randomly jump in the air and shout "PASTA", or slap my ankle, or jump down the stairs, or other bizarre shit. It's also possible that me sitting here pressing bits of plastic in an effort to communicate my thoughts to people in various locations across the globe is a crazy event to the ankle slappers in ankleslap universe. But, I think it's higly probably that I am the only me, and this is the only universe. I could be wrong, but I doubt it because I'm never wrong, especially about these unprovable things. | |
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11-21-2014 05:03 PM
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Maybe OngBonga was one of those kids who got his ass whooped for doing stupid shit in an alternate universe. | |
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11-21-2014 05:05 PM
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After the ass whooping did he grow in to a responsible adult with a job? | |
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11-21-2014 05:06 PM
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11-21-2014 05:08 PM
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hmm who would i be married to in the 90s? |
11-21-2014 05:17 PM
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I'd take Christina over Britney. | |
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11-21-2014 05:32 PM
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11-21-2014 05:37 PM
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Honestly she was never terribly my type. She was just the iconic sex symbol of my youth |
11-21-2014 05:40 PM
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Oh yeah, 90s Britney. She fell off pretty hard though after her handlers let her go crazy. | |
11-21-2014 06:02 PM
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worst thing you will ever see http://gfycat.com/ChubbyAmusingAnole |
11-21-2014 07:27 PM
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11-21-2014 07:39 PM
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boost sighting |
11-21-2014 07:52 PM
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11-21-2014 08:01 PM
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Ain't nothing cool about that |
11-21-2014 08:12 PM
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Yeah, I'm glad I caught that. For some reason the post sparked my interest-- I didn't watch the video, but I listened to both Rogan episodes he was on, and the Chris Ryan one as well. There's a good bit of what he says that I find disagreeable (and I'm not really interested in getting into a point by point discussion on it), but I really appreciate his drive to look at things from a different vantage. Whether I agree with all or none of what a guy like him has to say, this type of voice being added to the dialogue is invaluable. | |
11-21-2014 08:32 PM
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I'm interesting to hear what you disagree with. I promise I won't argue |
11-21-2014 09:01 PM
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Part of the reason I threw in that caveat is that I really couldn't pull anything off the top of my head. I just remember thinking he was leaning on some weak premises at times. Maybe I'll check out the video and take notes, and then let you know what I mean in specifics. But again, I think he's a great thinker and I really enjoy following along as he pushes passed the ostensible and gets to the meat of an issue. | |
11-21-2014 10:16 PM
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I saw a black guy in Walmart earlier wearing a t-shirt that said "Nigger" across it. | |
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11-22-2014 05:18 PM
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11-22-2014 09:12 PM
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Proof that male privilege in modern culture is bullshit: there is a popular character named He-Man. Way to make men feel like they're not men unless THEY'RE FUCKING MEN DO YOU KNOW WHAT IM SAYING BRO |
11-22-2014 09:34 PM
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deer jerky season has begun and I am the taste tester. | |
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11-22-2014 09:36 PM
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11-22-2014 11:45 PM
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I hope everyone learned a valuable lesson there. | |
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11-23-2014 08:27 AM
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11-23-2014 09:04 AM
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11-23-2014 10:02 AM
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Spoon should be taking notes off this guy. He hates for good reason and doesn't cloud the issue. | |
11-23-2014 10:31 AM
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11-23-2014 10:33 AM
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I was watching that video, and was thinking those who donate money to someone they've never met are naive if they don't expect some people to take advantage. I was just starting to think that maybe this guy is a little dumb, when BAM he started motherfucking ranting like a boss. Hi fucking 5 n-word. | |
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11-23-2014 11:41 AM
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11-23-2014 11:53 AM
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So I dumped my $150 Cable bill and just have unlimited internets now. I signed up for Netflix and I am looking for other streaming options for TV and movies that are at least decent def. I have run into two problems so far since I live in the great white north. | |
11-23-2014 11:54 AM
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11-23-2014 12:04 PM
#15743
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pineapple juice is da best. | |
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11-23-2014 01:01 PM
#15744
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When I go to type tumblr, I always type flopturnriver instead. The keys are right beside of each other. | |
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11-23-2014 03:05 PM
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Coconut water is the best. | |
11-23-2014 06:50 PM
#15746
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random is random | |
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11-23-2014 07:06 PM
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11-23-2014 09:37 PM
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11-24-2014 02:12 AM
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11-24-2014 01:34 PM
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I'm running netflix on several devices including my son's playstation in his room. The router was an easy fix. It's just manual DNS settings. I have heard that Netflix doesn't give a shit. Here is hoping. If they freak then I guess my son will have to sign up next. I wish I had of done this a few years ago. To think how much money I have paid my cable company. | |