Randomness thread, part two.

[OngBonga]

Here's the best thing about the lottery...

You're more likely to die as a consequence of leaving the house to buy your ticket, than you are to win.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Here's the best thing about the lottery...

You're more likely to die as a consequence of leaving the house to buy your ticket, than you are to win.

irrelevent. Everything in life involves risk, even staying at home.

If it's -EV (strictly monetarily speaking), then only play insofar as it amuses you. It's -EV to go to a lot of things, but I pay for them because they're fun.

If it's +EV, it's +EV. Buy some tickets. Don't break your future goals on such a slim chance to win, but don't ignore that it's theoretically a positive investment in the long term.

[The Bean Counter]

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2...-winning-maths

Buying a ticket today is plus ev apparently.

[rong]

If irl people ever talk to me about playing the lottery, my standard response is that I've decided to cut out the middle man and just throw my money on the floor instead.

[MadMojoMonkey]

I've been spending a lot of time in casinos because, apparently, I have a gambling problem. But I have learned something important to pass on to you about how to deal with casinos when you're there. Go get $100 in quarters when you arrive. Then, go to your room, lock the door; go to the bathroom and lock the door. Then, take the quarters and flush them one by one by one. And the nice thing about that is so often the toilet will back up and you will feel like a winner.

-Lewis Black

[wufwugy]

the maxims at play: "take guns from law-abiding citizens; give nukes to fanatics". also "if at first you succeed and it turns into a disaster, do it again!"

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...xt-north-korea

[OngBonga]

It's even more +ev for me tonight, my Mother will give me £2m if she wins the lot, and it costs me fuck all.

[a500lbgorilla]

Anyone catch that bloodsport last night between the Bengals and Steelers?

There were a few minutes there were it felt like a riot was a genuine possibility.

[spoonitnow]

Here's your daily dose of multiculturalism:

http://madworldnews.com/muslim-chat-girl-outfit/

TL;DR: Muslim walks up to woman and tells her she's dressed like a whore. Then he hits her until she's on the ground.

[wufwugy]

look on the bright side, at least they go to the cities, places that should be avoided at all costs.

ofc after i graduate i'll be moving to pisshole seattle. not looking forward to that.

[wufwugy]

this is why we need states rights. let shitcunts flock to new york and jersey and florida and california. watch as the states become a nightmare and people learn from their mistakes and masses flock to texas and colorado (like they already are), where the natives don't put up with this bullshit.

[spoonitnow]

this is why we need states rights. let shitcunts flock to new york and jersey and florida and california. watch as the states become a nightmare and people learn from their mistakes and masses flock to texas and colorado (like they already are), where the natives don't put up with this bullshit.

+1 to states rights

[rong]

States rights?

[wufwugy]

States rights?

It's a balance of power element embedded into the federalism of the US Constitution. It was intended to be substantially stronger than it is today. In the early decades of the country, the US wasn't even considered a country, but more like the EU is today except with some small tax power. A way of illustrating it is that Britain is to the EU today what Virginia (or other states) were to "the US" 150 years ago.

States' rights is essential for competition in governance and civil standards. Think on how important it is for the British to have an autonomous British government when the other option would be an autonomous EU government out of Brussels. In the case of the latter, every bad decision the EU government would make would affect Britain, and Britain would have little recourse to make its own good decisions. Not to mention that the EU government would be at an innate disadvantage at coming to good decisions for British area in the first place.

This can be extended into regions of Britain itself. Most people probably think that Londonites and rural Scots probably have different needs, desires, and views on how their societies should organize. It's reasonable to have policy that promotes local autonomy. Obviously, this should be within reason. As far as the US goes, it has gone from being basically several dozen different countries with a few common agreements among them to today being mostly a unitary state ruled by an iron fist out of Washington D.C.. The states' rights that we have left (not much), are responsible for multitudes of positive civil developments, like healthcare rights and gay rights.

States' rights is a pseudo-market of government. The concept is supported by virtually everybody when it comes to their own freedom, but the institution has steadily been undermined by people not supporting it when it comes to other peoples' freedoms.

[wufwugy]

question for da brits: is pikey a thing or did guy ritchie make it up?

[spoonitnow]

It's a balance of power element embedded into the federalism of the US Constitution. It was intended to be substantially stronger than it is today. In the early decades of the country, the US wasn't even considered a country, but more like the EU is today except with some small tax power. A way of illustrating it is that Britain is to the EU today what Virginia (or other states) were to "the US" 150 years ago.

States' rights is essential for competition in governance and civil standards. Think on how important it is for the British to have an autonomous British government when the other option would be an autonomous EU government out of Brussels. In the case of the latter, every bad decision the EU government would make would affect Britain, and Britain would have little recourse to make its own good decisions. Not to mention that the EU government would be at an innate disadvantage at coming to good decisions for British area in the first place.

This can be extended into regions of Britain itself. Most people probably think that Londonites and rural Scots probably have different needs, desires, and views on how their societies should organize. It's reasonable to have policy that promotes local autonomy. Obviously, this should be within reason. As far as the US goes, it has gone from being basically several dozen different countries with a few common agreements among them to today being mostly a unitary state ruled by an iron fist out of Washington D.C.. The states' rights that we have left (not much), are responsible for multitudes of positive civil developments, like healthcare rights and gay rights.

States' rights is a pseudo-market of government. The concept is supported by virtually everybody when it comes to their own freedom, but the institution has steadily been undermined by people not supporting it when it comes other peoples' freedoms.

TL;DR: Anything not explicitly covered in the constitution as powers granted to the federal government (which are supposed to be relatively limited) are powers held by the individual states.

Random example: Each state determines its own laws for gambling with a few key exceptions. This is why online poker is regulated and legal in New Jersey but it gets you the same level of felony as assaulting a minor in Washington state.

[OngBonga]

Pikey is a mildly offensive term for gypos.

The term existed before Guy Richie made Snatch.

Gypo is an offensive term for gypsy.

[OngBonga]

The current boxing heavyweight champion is a pikey.

[wufwugy]

TL;DR: Anything not explicitly covered in the constitution as powers granted to the federal government (which are supposed to be relatively limited) are powers held by the individual states.

Random example: Each state determines its own laws for gambling with a few key exceptions. This is why online poker is regulated and legal in New Jersey but it gets you the same level of felony as assaulting a minor in Washington state.

there's irony in that my polisci class on US government was essential for turning me anti-government, even though the class was not intended to do so. the key was in learning that "rights" are things granted to individuals by way of prohibition of government to impose its own will. governments don't *grant* rights, they *prohibit* their own. from this, freedom as a civil concept has arisen.

[spoonitnow]

More is coming out about police cover-ups of "immigrants" and mass sexual assault in Europe: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/wo...l-assault.html

LONDON — The police in Sweden, responding to accusations of a cover-up, said on Monday that they were investigating why the public had not been informed about sexual assault by men reported to be migrants at a festival in Stockholm last summer.

In echoes of the scandal in Cologne, Germany, where the police are investigating scores of assaults, often involving asylum seekers, on New Year’s Eve, the Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter reported over the weekend that a gang of migrant youths had groped young girls at a festival in August.

The attacks in Cologne have intensified the scrutiny of the assaults in Sweden, and even as Chancellor Angela Merkel’s spokesman, Steffen Seibert, said there was no excuse for revenge attacks against immigrants, a group of Pakistanis and a Syrian were targeted in Cologne on Sunday, The Associated Press reported.

The Swedish newspaper said that the police had not mentioned the attacks until it published details about them, and it accused the authorities of failing to warn the public before the festival that similar attacks had occurred in 2014, prompting speculation that the authorities were trying to avoid an anti-immigrant backlash.

The newspaper reported that it had seen a police memo from last summer that urged vigilance because there had been a problem at the festival the previous year “with young men who rub themselves against young girls.” It reported that the attackers were mostly migrants, including from Afghanistan.

[wufwugy]

the problem stems from the worldview that things are made up of victims and oppressors. it sees people from places less good than our own and calls them victims. this necessarily means that any who do not help these victims are oppressors. this framework encourages the willful ignorance needed to allow all these types of assault to so easily perpetuate.

the victim/oppressor view has been used as a philosophical framework for civil organizing structures in the past. those organizing structures were communism and fascism and not much else. just sayin.

[spoonitnow]

Meanwhile, the rapefugees continue to pour in.

[wufwugy]

im no longer a total advocate for open borders. id like to say it isn't so much that my view has changed, but that my understanding of it has deepened.

open borders should be governmental policy since the only entities that should be allowed to close its borders are private ones. if government uses a measure of closed border policy, it acts as protectionist and authoritarian and engages in the same type of wrong behavior that it does whenever it penetrates any other aspect of market interactions. however, because government owns property within its borders, it necessarily means that problem behavior on that property cannot be dealt with by private entities, which necessitates non-open policy.

as long as government has autonomy over certain regions (like streets, where these rapes mostly occur), it has a duty to cherry pick its immigrants. per usual, the problem is avoided by eliminating the law monopoly, but we're not there yet.

[spoonitnow]

im no longer a total advocate for open borders. id like to say it isn't so much that my view has changed, but that my understanding of it has deepened.

open borders should be governmental policy since the only entities that should be allowed to close its borders are private ones. if government uses a measure of closed border policy, it acts as protectionist and authoritarian and engages in the same type of wrong behavior that it does whenever it penetrates any other aspect of market interactions. however, because government owns property within its borders, it necessarily means that problem behavior on that property cannot be dealt with by private entities, which necessitates non-open policy.

as long as government has autonomy over certain regions (like streets, where these rapes mostly occur), it has a duty to cherry pick its immigrants. per usual, the problem is avoided by eliminating the law monopoly, but we're not there yet.

Fair enough.

[a500lbgorilla]

I think this is a pretty clever way to illustrate modern twitter-discourse.

http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/01...xplain-myself/

He takes a picture of a BlackLivesMatter leader, tweets it with the message, "This is the leader of #BlackLivesMatter" and just sits back and watches the world turn.

[spoonitnow]

I think this is a pretty clever way to illustrate modern twitter-discourse.

http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/01...xplain-myself/

He takes a picture of a BlackLivesMatter leader, tweets it with the message, "This is the leader of #BlackLivesMatter" and just sits back and watches the world turn.

Pretty much, and it's so ridiculously profitable.

[a500lbgorilla]

You talking about his book? I'll admit I thought about buying it. But then I remembered my backlog is like 20+ right now.

[spoonitnow]

You talking about his book? I'll admit I thought about buying it. But then I remembered my backlog is like 20+ right now.

Well I mean that's one specific example, but when you have a ton of people that only take a little poking to spread your message far and wide, you can sell just about anything. What's perfect is that these people tend to have a sizable disposable income and an inclination to spent that money on things they deem "fashionable" in terms of ideology. If you want to reference my post about rich white men ruling the world, it's pretty much the same kind of thing. The most recent season of South Park kind of hinted at it too with the idea of people becoming ads through the SJW era.

[MadMojoMonkey]

[a500lbgorilla]

[wufwugy]

highly strong case for how open borders to even the worst islamic ideologues makes things better

http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/...n_civiliz.html

[a500lbgorilla]

Really interesting article written by a top developer of Bitcoin on why he's quitting and why the experiment has failed.

https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-r...1f7#.mu7gne8ca

[spoonitnow]

highly strong case for how open borders to even the worst islamic ideologues makes things better

http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/...n_civiliz.html

For who? lol no

A huge influx of idiots with a culture that doesn't mix and that only causes ridiculous levels of violence, sexual assault, rape and other crime. Sounds better as fuck.

[wufwugy]

For who? lol no

A huge influx of idiots with a culture that doesn't mix and that only causes ridiculous levels of violence, sexual assault, rape and other crime. Sounds better as fuck.

im not sure if you read it. in case you didn't, it's about unintentional assimilation that overall reduces barbarism of the ideology. the same thing happened with catholicism.

[a500lbgorilla]

Really interesting article written by a top developer of Bitcoin on why he's quitting and why the experiment has failed.

https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-r...1f7#.mu7gne8ca

tl;dr, the block chain technology itself has some troubling problems that the community can not overcome because of divergent incentives.

[spoonitnow]

tl;dr, the block chain technology itself has some troubling problems that the community can not overcome because of divergent incentives.

tl;dr: Rich white men (read: the ruling class) won out in the end.

[spoonitnow]

If you had to pick a contender for rape capital of the world, Sweden wouldn’t likely come to mind. Yet it now has the second-highest “official” rape rate of any country. It’s 53.2 rapes per 100,000 inhabitants is five times the United States’ rate and is only surpassed by Lesotho, a tiny nation in the middle of southern Africa.

It wasn’t always this way. Once an extremely safe land, violent crime in Sweden has increased 300 percent since 1975. That year, write Scandinavian journalists Ingrid Carlqvist and Lars Hedegaard, “421 rapes were reported to the police; in 2014, it was 6,620. That is an increase of 1,472%.” Why is 1975 significant?

Because that’s the year the Swedish government decided to adopt an immigration regime that would transform Sweden into a “multicultural” country.

I can't understand why people don't see a problem with this.

[spoonitnow]

What do we think of this? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...teenagers.html

German leisure centre becomes the first to ban all migrants after a schoolgirl was sexually assaulted in a public swimming pool by Syrian teenagers

Three Syrian teenagers arrested in Munich for attack on girls at public pool
The three boys, all aged under 15, circled the two girls then groped them
Leisure centre in Bornheim has now barred all migrants as a precaution
It comes as concerns grow over the New Year mass assaults in Cologne

[OngBonga]

I think I can probably comment on that article and suggest that we intern all immigrants in camps and I'd get a shit load of likes.

For example...

They shouldn't be allowed to walk around free, they should be in some sort of detention centre & if they don't agree... Go home!! (1411 likes, 17 dislikes)

How about Auschwitz? They have good facilities there I hear.

[spoonitnow]

Norway just sent 5,500 alleged Syrian refugees packing and denied them at the border: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a6812966.html

[a500lbgorilla]

tl;dr: Rich white men (read: the ruling class) won out in the end.

Some of the problems were with the Chinese and their Firewall, and the ruling class in this were those with the lions share of mining hardware.

It's interesting just to see how the whole point of bitcoin was to build trust into the system, but the system could still be derailed by the games people will play.

[wufwugy]

if i ever have daughters, daddy forcing them to carry knives. a good stabby stabby deters a rapist, and there's no way in hell a woman would get in any trouble for stabbing a man whom she claimed assaulted her.

[spoonitnow]

if i ever have daughters, daddy forcing them to carry knives. a good stabby stabby deters a rapist, and there's no way in hell a woman would get in any trouble for stabbing a man whom she claimed assaulted her.

Actual forcible rape is exceptionally uncommon.*


* In the United States, outside of men's prisons.

[JKDS]

Pepper spray would be more effective. No need to really aim, cant be disarmed as easily, no strength or skill requirement. And all u need to do is disable for 30 sec while u flee

[wufwugy]

yet the kind that girls who aren't attracted to douchebags due to not having douchebag fathers have the most to worry about.

[Renton]

lol at carrying a knife for self defense. Here, person who is exceptionally better suited for hand to hand combat, be pissed off that I ineptly tried to stab you and have fun mutilating me with my knife after you're done raping me.

Seems like mace or a tazer are the best options for a woman.

[a500lbgorilla]

That's why I wear a vest of claymore mines every time I leave the house.

[rong]

My daughters are doing martial arts from a young age. If you split the population of women into 2 categories, those with black belts or better in some form of martial art and those without, holding for everything else, I bet my ass those with black belts get raped less.

[OngBonga]

Yup taser is the one. A knife is stupid.

For sure if I had kids, they'd be doing martial arts of some sort.

[spoonitnow]

yet the kind that girls who aren't attracted to douchebags due to not having douchebag fathers have the most to worry about.

All women are attracted to the right kind of douchebags.

[OngBonga]

All women are attracted to the right kind of douchebags.

Even lesbians.

[spoonitnow]

Even lesbians.

Correct.

[wufwugy]

lol at carrying a knife for self defense. Here, person who is exceptionally better suited for hand to hand combat, be pissed off that I ineptly tried to stab you and have fun mutilating me with my knife after you're done raping me.

Seems like mace or a tazer are the best options for a woman.

well a gun is the best option. pepper spray is better than a knife in some ways but not others. overall i do agree with you though, spray is better. i just like knives a whole bunch. no way in hell id raise a girl who doesn't think the coolest thing in the world is carrying concealed weapons. plus my mind goes to knives immediately since theyre the thing im most afraid of. somebody with spray can hurt me, but somebody with a knife can scare me too.

also carrying a weapon assumes training is involved. the attacker wouldn't be more prepared or adept.

[spoonitnow]

From: http://www.torontosun.com/2012/07/16...ng-sex-assault

This perfectly illustrates the reason why multiculturalism does not work and why these people are invaders in every sense of the word. Instead of adapting to the existing culture, they are trying to change it to be their culture. There is no such thing as two different cultures peacefully co-existing in the same place at the same time unless they are already very much alike.

My Name is Al-Haashim Kamena Atangana and I have been reading in recent weeks sexual Assaults that have been occurring At York University. I just wanted to suggest a few changes within the Canadian laws that will help prevent sexual assaults from happening in the future.

Just to introduce myself I am a Muslim born in Montréal, Quebec 33 years ago. I was born in a Christian Family and I have decided to embrace Islam in 1998. I do allot of Islamic Outreach Programs downtown (yonge and Dundas).I am from African Carribean Ethnicity.

I wanted to mention that the reason why these sex attacks are continuously happening is because the Canadian laws, which gives too much freedom to women, are the cause of these sex attacks. It has been revealed that every 5 seconds a woman is being sexually assaulted in North America. Women in North America are falling victims of the Democratic Freedom that you they passionly believe in. The reason why a woman gets raped is because of the way she dress. Women dress so provocatively so much that they receive too much attention for themselves and that attention at times leads to death.

If the law enforcements and the Canadian politicians were very serious about solving this problem, they would introduce laws that would make it illegal for women to dress provocatively in the streets. It is true that many people would object to this if that were to happen. and this will definitely create protests and opposition. However by arresting sexual predators is not going to solve the problem because as long women continue to dress like this there will always be perverts and rapist who will continue to remain on the loose.

I am suggesting that Toronto becomes the first City in North America to introduce laws that would make it illegal for women to dress provocatively. If we do this the other cities would follow.

You should take your example from the way Muslim women dress. Why does Muslim women who wear long dress and covers her head aren’t targeted for sex attacks? Why is it that Rapists and sexual predators only target women that dress so provocatively? Because Muslim women have nothing to show in regards to her body.

[wufwugy]

I watched an interview a while back with a prominent Muslim woman commentator on Islam (I forget who). I'll never forget the great point she made, that the treatment of women that Islam teaches allows men to never grow up. They get to stay 7 years old, behaving on emotion and incapable of responsibility for their actions. As adults this manifests as ease of raping women and it being her fault.

[rong]

Bought a decent chef knife. Nothing special. $100 price range. But fuck jesus in the ass it's amazing. The difference when slicing an onion! I cried for multiple reasons.

[spoonitnow]

Bought a decent chef knife. Nothing special. $100 price range. But fuck jesus in the ass it's amazing. The difference when slicing an onion! I cried for multiple reasons.

I had a similar experience when getting a different knife for cutting meat up for jerky. It cut 90 percent of the stress out, pun intended.

[JKDS]

Im employed. Fuck yes.

[rong]

Grats! Doing what?

[OngBonga]

I'll give the jobcentre staff their credit. If I worked there for 20 years having to deal with cunts like me on a daily basis, I'd have killed myself by now.

[MadMojoMonkey]

Im employed. Fuck yes.

WOOHOO!!

[MadMojoMonkey]

Bought a decent chef knife. Nothing special. $100 price range. But fuck jesus in the ass it's amazing. The difference when slicing an onion! I cried for multiple reasons.

I had a similar experience when getting a different knife for cutting meat up for jerky. It cut 90 percent of the stress out, pun intended.

I love a good, sharp knife. I stand firmly by the axiom that a sharp knife is a safe knife. A dull knife is more dangerous because it doesn't behave as expected, inducing frustration and less safe handling of the knife.

I went with family tradition when I purchased my first knife set, Chicago Cutlery w/ walnut handles. They're a perfectly usable, stainless steel knife set. However, I haven't oiled the handles often enough and I will need to replace them sooner than later.

What knives are you guys using for your main kitchen set?
Would you recommend?

[oskar]

I love a good, sharp knife. I stand firmly by the axiom that a sharp knife is a safe knife. A dull knife is more dangerous because it doesn't behave as expected, inducing frustration and less safe handling of the knife.

I find that I cut myself more on sharp knives. Probably because they are sharp. In general the less sharp something is the less I tend to cut myself on it.
I should x-post this in the physics questions thread.

[MadMojoMonkey]

I find that I cut myself more on sharp knives. Probably because they are sharp. In general the less sharp something is the less I tend to cut myself on it.
I should x-post this in the physics questions thread.

Given identical usage, you are correct.
My point centers around the notion that you use these items differently.

How often have you accidentally cut yourself with a razor blade (or any tool you assume is very sharp and treat with respect)?
How often with a dull blade that slipped (or any tool you at first assumed was sharp, but then had to force it)?

Note that if you expect something to be dull, and you cut yourself because it is sharp, that is another situation altogether.

[rong]

I find that I cut myself more on sharp knives. Probably because they are sharp. In general the less sharp something is the less I tend to cut myself on it.
I should x-post this in the physics questions thread.

This.

It took about 2 and a half minutes for me to cut myself.with the new knife. Literally!

[MadMojoMonkey]

This.

It took about 2 and a half minutes for me to cut myself.with the new knife. Literally!

While you were expecting a knife which was less sharp - like your old knives?

Now that you know how sharp it is, how often have you cut yourself?

[rong]

Yeah true. Not cut myself since. So granted, I'm more careful with the new knife. But haven't cut myself on a kitchen knife in the last 5 yrs (as far as I can remember ). Too early to tell of your theory holds as I've only owned the new one for less than a month.

[spoonitnow]

Yeah man, you won't cut yourself on sharp knives.

I just cut the shit out of myself.

Uhhh, I mean, uhh, but how many times have you cut yourself besides that one time?

[MadMojoMonkey]

Yeah man, you won't cut yourself on sharp knives.

That's neither what I said, nor is it my point.

My point is that when you respect something as a dangerous tool, you handle it with heightened care to avoid personal injury.

Uhhh, I mean, uhh, but how many times have you cut yourself besides that one time?

Again. This is not what I said.

You're just being a dick for the sake of trolling.

Stop being a dick.

***
Just in case you're actually confused about my point:
Sorry for that outburst. You know.


The central point I'm making is that you must KNOW that the knife is sharp and handle with appropriate care. The tangential point I'm making is that if you THINK a knife is sharp, then use it and it is dull, you are more likely to keep using it than to immediately sharpen it. By using the dull blade, you require more force to accomplish the same task. The blade may catch and stop, causing whatever's being cut to roll. This is a common mishap which results in sliced fingers.

The problem is the immediate loss of respect for the tool. Once it is shown to be less dangerous than you had anticipated, you use it more recklessly - even though it is still a dangerous tool, just not quite as dangerous as you expected.

[OngBonga]

You're just being a dick for the sake of trolling.

Stop being spoon.

fyp

[spoonitnow]

That's neither what I said, nor is it my point.

My point is that when you respect something as a dangerous tool, you handle it with heightened care to avoid personal injury.


Again. This is not what I said.

You're just being a dick for the sake of trolling.

Stop being a dick.

***
Just in case you're actually confused about my point:
Sorry for that outburst. You know.


The central point I'm making is that you must KNOW that the knife is sharp and handle with appropriate care. The tangential point I'm making is that if you THINK a knife is sharp, then use it and it is dull, you are more likely to keep using it than to immediately sharpen it. By using the dull blade, you require more force to accomplish the same task. The blade may catch and stop, causing whatever's being cut to roll. This is a common mishap which results in sliced fingers.

The problem is the immediate loss of respect for the tool. Once it is shown to be less dangerous than you had anticipated, you use it more recklessly - even though it is still a dangerous tool, just not quite as dangerous as you expected.

I think that getting three paragraphs out of you is a victory. If it was wuf, I'd go for seven, but he's atypical.

[wufwugy]

that's what she said.

[MadMojoMonkey]

I think that getting three paragraphs out of you is a victory.

I think that getting me to swear on a public, written record was more of an achievement, really.

[JKDS]

Grats! Doing what?

In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups. The police who investigate crime, and me

[wufwugy]

til ur sam waterston.