03-01-2015 08:41 PM
#16951
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03-01-2015 08:43 PM
#16952
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I've never seen a form go into such detail tbh, care to give a real example? I'm curious. |
03-01-2015 08:44 PM
#16953
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03-01-2015 09:48 PM
#16954
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Seriously, my bad, I must have missed that post some how. This discussion has moved pretty fast. Sorry about that. | |
03-01-2015 09:58 PM
#16955
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I'll admit that we don't actually know, and that we likely will never know. |
03-01-2015 11:04 PM
#16956
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Right, and the counter is that while the brain has no physical differences across races, across genders it very much does. To assume that a brain with a significantly different structure would not excel in some areas and fall short in other areas... I mean, why would we disregard this? | |
03-01-2015 11:15 PM
#16957
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03-01-2015 11:24 PM
#16958
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I think the probability that morphological differences in the brain are a product of culture -- like the claims in the article Imsavy posted -- is much higher than otherwise. The plasticity of the brain is kinda off the charts. Some of the known differences have no known effects, like size and matter type. Other differences in function that seem apparent -- like spatial proficiency -- are mostly postulated to be a result of nurture e.g. boys grow up playing sports. |
03-02-2015 12:12 AM
#16959
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Male and female fetus' are known to have physical differences in brain structure, and this is just what we can see from an ultrasound. | |
03-02-2015 07:42 AM
#16960
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03-02-2015 07:42 AM
#16961
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03-02-2015 04:00 PM
#16962
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Known differences but no known effects on the minds of the sexes. |
03-02-2015 05:16 PM
#16963
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03-02-2015 05:25 PM
#16964
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03-02-2015 05:45 PM
#16965
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03-02-2015 07:05 PM
#16966
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Last edited by spoonitnow; 03-02-2015 at 07:11 PM. | |
03-02-2015 07:21 PM
#16967
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Hey look, a source that goes against Wuf's lack of. | |
03-02-2015 07:27 PM
#16968
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I've stated several times that sexual preferences are among the most genetic dispositions probable. Of course, I'm unsure how much so since they too appear to be heavily cultural. There are some batty mating strategies in some cultures. I'd have to know more about them to give an assessment of how much is cultural, but some of them are so wacky that they involve knees being the most seductive part of the body, pederasty as the core, or polyandry. |
03-02-2015 07:40 PM
#16969
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03-02-2015 07:40 PM
#16970
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Which one? Rilla's? It doesn't. It's pretty great too. Contemporary psychology tends to view his situation as somebody who has a predisposition that is modified by environment. Additionally, like in the link Imsavy posted, we don't actually know if that predisposition is learned. On the genetic level (which that video isn't about), it gets even screwier. Geneticists will be the first to say that genes are not deterministic and that they're weirder than anybody thinks. |
03-02-2015 08:02 PM
#16971
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I'll hit on one line from the wiki |
03-02-2015 09:14 PM
#16972
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Would you guys ever date a stripper? | |
03-02-2015 10:05 PM
#16973
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03-02-2015 10:08 PM
#16974
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I'd date JKDS just for fun. Just one date. And no touching. | |
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03-02-2015 10:09 PM
#16975
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I'd date you too boog, but you can touch me. | |
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03-02-2015 11:02 PM
#16976
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it is a good idea to spend time with people who make your life better. |
03-02-2015 11:03 PM
#16977
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i am using way too many periods these days. frickin boog. |
03-03-2015 01:49 AM
#16978
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Grunching here, but wuf, you seem to be pressing this argument that because of the difficulty of running an experiment on the causality of biology on behavior that the easier to study causality is the only causality. I was half joking about calling your argument tantamount to "my granddaddy wasn't no stinkin ape!", but I think you are very close to making the "missing link" argument. | |
03-03-2015 02:35 AM
#16979
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I've dated a stripper. She also did page 3. Suck it bitches! | |
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03-03-2015 02:36 AM
#16980
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Dated? Well we had a couple of drinks on two occasions. | |
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03-03-2015 04:53 AM
#16981
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And she wasn't exactly hot | |
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03-03-2015 07:21 AM
#16982
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Who the fuck puts not hot women on page 3? | |
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03-03-2015 08:13 AM
#16983
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Would you guys ever marry a hooker? | |
03-03-2015 08:15 AM
#16984
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It wasn't the sun page 3, it was the sport. Perhaps a slight exaggeration on my behalf. | |
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03-03-2015 08:15 AM
#16985
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03-03-2015 08:44 AM
#16986
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Would you rather marry a porn star or a hooker? I mean the only difference is how many people saw it. And possibly average dick size experienced. | |
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03-03-2015 09:08 AM
#16987
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I imagine porn stars are better about having safe sex. Porn star. | |
03-03-2015 09:10 AM
#16988
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03-03-2015 09:14 AM
#16989
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I'd date a hooker, but I wouldn't have sex with her unless she quit. My idea of safe sex is her taking the pill, condoms are fucking horrible. Plus, it's a matter of loyalty. I realise a hooker is not usually enjoying sex with her clients, but that's besides the point. I'm not overly jealous, but I'd have a serious problem with other men putting their dicks into my gf's vagina. So, a hooker would need to demonstrate her love for me by finding alternative employment before a serious relationship can begin. | |
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03-03-2015 09:16 AM
#16990
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Porn stars are hookers with a more glamourous job title. | |
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03-03-2015 10:46 AM
#16991
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Stripper? no | |
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03-03-2015 11:18 AM
#16992
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I felt pretty whore-like working in a carpentry shop. The work was physical, and the management bent us over at every opportunity. | |
03-03-2015 11:22 AM
#16993
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A cheap holiday in other people's misery. - Will Self on the news. I look that. | |
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03-03-2015 12:02 PM
#16994
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A cheeky lift? Or a struggle for life? | |
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03-03-2015 12:26 PM
#16995
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@ong: That's awesome! | |
03-03-2015 12:31 PM
#16996
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Not so awesome when you realise the weasel is trying to kill the woodpecker. Well actually it's still awesome, but brutal. | |
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03-03-2015 12:51 PM
#16997
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03-03-2015 12:57 PM
#16998
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03-03-2015 01:23 PM
#16999
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03-03-2015 01:30 PM
#17000
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It's a semantical thing. What they mean is that racism implies systemic oppression. | |
Last edited by aubreymcfate; 03-03-2015 at 01:33 PM.
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03-03-2015 01:30 PM
#17001
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He's right. I'm not racist, because I'm not judging based on race, but nationality. | |
03-03-2015 01:31 PM
#17002
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03-03-2015 01:46 PM
#17003
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03-03-2015 01:52 PM
#17004
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This way of thinking about racism drives me nuts. I don't understand where the idea that the discrimination must be "normal throughout an entire culture" came from. Whatever happened to the simple definition of racism where it's simply believing that members of a race are inferior or superior to other races? | |
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03-03-2015 01:53 PM
#17005
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03-03-2015 01:54 PM
#17006
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03-03-2015 01:55 PM
#17007
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I really should refresh the page before posting when I leave my browser open while I make tea, y'know, in case someone else has posted what I was about to post and the conversation has moved forward. | |
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03-03-2015 01:56 PM
#17008
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03-03-2015 01:56 PM
#17009
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03-03-2015 01:57 PM
#17010
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03-03-2015 02:01 PM
#17011
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How is the distinction itself rationalizing any form of discriminatory behavior? | |
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03-03-2015 02:05 PM
#17012
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Well if this remained the definition of racism, then it would be very difficult to call someone racist for using derogatory terms based on race, so long as one does not imply superiority. If a black man says hello to me, can I respond with "sup negroid" and not be a racist twat? No I can't, it is indeed racist, but not according to the idea that racism is belief in superiority. | |
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03-03-2015 02:09 PM
#17013
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03-03-2015 02:14 PM
#17014
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I don't think racism and discriminatory behavior are one in the same. Discriminatory behavior can STEM from racism but the discrimination part is not necessary for racism to have taken place. Racism is a thought or idea, not a behavior. | |
Last edited by BooG690; 03-03-2015 at 02:19 PM.
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03-03-2015 02:15 PM
#17015
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03-03-2015 02:23 PM
#17016
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Reactionary statements like that don't really bother me either. I don't even see it as malicious. It stems from extreme pain and frustration. | |
Last edited by aubreymcfate; 03-03-2015 at 02:28 PM.
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03-03-2015 02:35 PM
#17017
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03-03-2015 02:39 PM
#17018
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Racism to me is stereotyping works. If I had to guess which out of some group of people was most likely to mug me, my brain already knows the answer. | |
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03-03-2015 02:46 PM
#17019
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Guy hates me because I'm white, I'm just supposed to smile and thank him and I do so. This triggers an internal conflict and discomfort in me. Now I'm being oppressed by him in a way he could never understand. His race gives him the power to step all over me and I must take it. This is oppression of the highest order which now opens me to being racist at him - aw shit son. | |
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03-03-2015 02:46 PM
#17020
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I don't even think that's racism. There's a large, tough group of African-American and Guyanese people in Jamaica, Queens. Most follow the whole "thug life" bullshit. Yup, I pre-judge them all to hell and actually dodged a glass bottle being swung at me due to my excellent judgment skills. They HAPPEN to be Guyanese and African-American, but that isn't much of what caused me to judge them prior to knowing who they really were. | |
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03-03-2015 02:49 PM
#17021
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I have a hard time believing level headed people actually buy into the internet rhetoric around racism. If you believe it's because you want to, not because it makes a tremendous amount of sense. | |
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03-03-2015 02:54 PM
#17022
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It's like white power people and how they sense the threat of the colored man to the white race. The black man knows the oppression of The Man. Women feel the Patriarchy. | |
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03-03-2015 02:56 PM
#17023
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Yeah, to me that's the mechanism that bores out racism. White guy reads a black guys name on a resume and automatically rates it lower than the same resume with a white guys name ... all the way up to some white guy being furious with blacks because he thinks they make his life worse. | |
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03-03-2015 02:57 PM
#17024
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03-03-2015 03:05 PM
#17025
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