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Lukie
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05-21-2008, 03:21 AM
Post subject: Proposal: Make Commune posts count towards total post count.
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This is something that always confused me. Obviously it isn't that important, but it continues to confuse me nonetheless. I post on several forums and lurk at many more. All of them have some sort of community, lounge, tailget, or off-topic forum. In every case except FTR, the off-topic section is considered part of the main forum, both in terms of attitude and in terms of the posts counting. I suggest we do the same thing on FTR.
As I see it, the main reason it's setup how it is (where Community posts do not count), was that the admins wanted to emphasize and encourage poker discussion when FTR was much younger and less established. This is certainly very reasonable, and I very well may have done the same thing.
However, I can't help but think that it's having the opposite effect now-- that new users are intimidated to go into the poker forums with more established players and FTR members and talk about poker with a post count of 0. They don't get a chance to introduce themselves or build their name or post count in the commune (this also has to deal with the 10 post minimum to post in the commune to deal with spammers).
I feel we should make the commune a warmer and more friendly place. Make the posts count and let newbies make themselves feel like they are a part of our community. I was always told in school that one person can make a difference, and this is me trying to do just that.
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bigspenda73
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I voted "No. Leave it the way it is."
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I voted Absolutely, yes.
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I voted yes because wtf.
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This reminds me of when I first started voting. I thought I needed to vote for every race even though I didn't know anything about or care about 90%. Not saying railroad commissioner isn't an important race, I just don't know what he does.
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Isn't that what the SnG forum is for?
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I voted yes 'cause it'll put spenda over 4K posts.
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Originally Posted by Warpe
I voted yes 'cause it'll put spenda over 4K posts.
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it'll put a lot of people over 4k posts, including you as soon as Xman resets the post counts. That's not what my no vote is about anyways.
I feel commune posts shouldn't count for the reasons Lukie mentioned, having an inflated post count due to commune post-whoring isn't what a poker instructional/informational site should be about.
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who cares about post counts?
spenda?
we all know i love lukie but still
i voted no because no has very little support
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I actually don't care either way, although it does make it easier to tell who's a contributor.
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I don't care about the post counts
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Originally Posted by Warpe
it does make it easier to tell who's a contributor.
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Post count is already poorly correlated to contribution.
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Originally Posted by Warpe
I voted yes 'cause it'll put spenda over 4K posts.
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Then he will start posting in other forums again.
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it does make it easier to tell who's a contributor.
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Post count is already poorly correlated to contribution.
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not going there
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05-21-2008, 04:42 AM
Post subject: Re: Proposal: Make Commune posts count towards total post co
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Originally Posted by Lukie was on the money when he
However, I can't help but think that it's having the opposite effect now-- that new users are intimidated to go into the poker forums with more established players and FTR members and talk about poker with a post count of 0. They don't get a chance to introduce themselves or build their name or post count in the commune (this also has to deal with the 10 post minimum to post in the commune to deal with spammers).
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I agree with this (and a lot of other stuff you typed) 100%. Nice post, Lukie.
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Originally Posted by Lukie got all mushy on us and
I feel we should make the commune a warmer and more friendly place. Make the posts count and let newbies make themselves feel like they are a part of our community. I was always told in school that one person can make a difference, and this is me trying to do just that.
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LOL at the above quote. Lukie, you crack me up. Don't ever change. <3
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Originally Posted by Warpe
I voted yes 'cause it'll put spenda over 4K posts.
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it'll put a lot of people over 4k posts, including you as soon as Xman resets the post counts. That's not what my no vote is about anyways.
I feel commune posts shouldn't count for the reasons Lukie mentioned, having an inflated post count due to commune post-whoring isn't what a poker instructional/informational site should be about.
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I personally like the posters in the Community and there are some really good threads and reads that I enjoy here. Sure there is some garbage posted in here, but that holds true of all the forums to one extent or another. Like I said before, I feel like this forum should be part of the FTR community.
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i dont see why it really matters. i mean generally you look at post counts to see how involved someone is, and i like that i can see if someone is active posting in poker related threads, whereas some people mainly post in the commune.
despite all this, i applied lukie theorem #3
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I say make the commune count, but leave Lukie's the same, just to fuck with him 
And how did Spenda go down to 3998 posts?
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I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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i dont see why it really matters. i mean generally you look at post counts to see how involved someone is, and i like that i can see if someone is active posting in poker related threads, whereas some people mainly post in the commune.
despite all this, i applied lukie theorem #3 
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Nice.
I knew that had to do some good down the road.
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
I say make the commune count, but leave Lukie's the same, just to fuck with him
And how did Spenda go down to 3998 posts?
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Just hypothesizing, but he probably made a post, got credit for it, then deleted it, but the post doesn't get deducted until Xianti updates everything. I'm guessing he did that recently.
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IT'S A TARP
I voted no, I seriously don't care. I judge people by how they act in and out of the commune. I figure If I don't know ya, it's not my fault. Get in there and mix it up.
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I say make the commune count, but leave Lukie's the same, just to fuck with him
And how did Spenda go down to 3998 posts?
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Just hypothesizing, but he probably made a post, got credit for it, then deleted it, but the post doesn't get deducted until Xianti updates everything. I'm guessing he did that recently.
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how does that make any sense Lukie?
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also hypothesizing is a kewl word
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goodjob lukie, im in new orleans with 2 of my friends so callme asap
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do it for the kids xianti
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eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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Lukie correlates post count to penis size.
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will641
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lukie just wants to have straight flush status, but cant get it cause he never posts on poker anymore.
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There are side bets about post counts we have yet to hear. This is not about the Noobs, Lukie doesn't care about most of the Regs here, why would he care about new users.
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Beginners circle posts count, right? That's where the newbies are supposed to introduce themselves anyway.
I think it's good to know if someone is here just to talk crap and has no interest in learning about the game. This is a poker players' community, no?
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There are side bets about post counts we have yet to hear. This is not about the Noobs, Lukie doesn't care about most of the Regs here, why would he care about new users.
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1. I'm not involved in any side bets about post counts nor am I aware of any that exist.
2. That's a shitty thing to say considering how much I know I've contributed to FTR since I've been here. I havn't been playing poker because I'm working on another business opportunity so I havn't been posting about poker. That translates into me not caring about most of the regs here? "ok", keep telling yourself that.
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I mean come on man, this thread was only meant to be taken half-seriously and I don't care about my post count, but don't say I don't care about the people here. I consider a lot of the regs my friends and some of them my very good friends.
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I would still have fewer posts than Fnord.
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wheres the "jesus christ, dont you guys have anything more important to argue about" option?
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wheres the "jesus christ, dont you guys have anything more important to argue about" option?
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Seriously?
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
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wheres the "jesus christ, dont you guys have anything more important to argue about" option?
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wheres the ban eupho option?
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where's the make everyone love again option?
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I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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where's the make everyone love again option?
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you queerbate
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I like it the way it is
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i like it how it is.
there should be two post counts. the poker related ones and the off topic ones. would be great to see
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where's the make everyone love again option?
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you queerbate
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I mean like hippie love, not ass-pounding love.
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I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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que fnord...
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Beginners circle posts count, right? That's where the newbies are supposed to introduce themselves anyway.
I think it's good to know if someone is here just to talk crap and has no interest in learning about the game. This is a poker players' community, no?
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I agree with this the most.
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...i like the fact that my post count reflects what ive written in poker discussions and not commune bullshit, so i like it the way it is.
don't know if I'd like to see people have ginormous post counts just for yapping in the commune all day long...
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commune bullshit
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You take that back! You take that back right now!
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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i think xman should make a 5-of-a-kind for people (aka fnord in a few months) who make it to 20k posts.
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hey will's a FH, where'd you 1k post go?
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hey will's a FH, where'd you 1k post go?
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not sure tbh, some thread in shnl forum. i didnt really notice i was at 1k until like 1004 posts.
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you supposed to make a pooh-bah post at 1k yo
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