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hlester25
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03-03-2010, 02:19 AM
Post subject: PROP BET on RNG legitimacy, free $100
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I am willing to wager up to $100 that the RNG on either FTP or Pokerstars will be proven to be manipulated within the next 5 years. I want 25 to 1 odds in MY favor.
I will ship you $100 UP FRONT after I have confirmed my trust in you that you will pay up if need be. If any news becomes public that PROVES the RNG on FTP or Stars is in any way manipulated you ship me (or find a way to pay me) $2500.
Here is the shill's chance to put their money where their mouth is.
I mean this is a free $100, who wants it?
PM me if interested
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hlester25
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interested?
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itt op reveals he needs a new hobby
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hlester25
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Can we attempt to stick to the subject instead of intentionally trying to derail my thread?
please and thanks.
this is a chance to get $100 for free since there is no way the RNG is manipulated in any way whatsoever. I cant believe no one wants $100 for free.
If you found a $100 in the middle of a remote forrest, would you pick it up and keep it? This is a similar situation. $100 for free.
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BooG690
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I'm in.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hlester25
If you found a $100 in the middle of a remote forrest, would you pick it up and keep it?
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Depends. Did a bear shit on it?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hlester25
Can we attempt to stick to the subject instead of intentionally trying to derail my thread?
please and thanks.
this is a chance to get $100 for free since there is no way the RNG is manipulated in any way whatsoever. I cant believe no one wants $100 for free.
If you found a $100 in the middle of a remote forrest, would you pick it up and keep it? This is a similar situation. $100 for free.
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itt op makes faulty comparisons
fwiw, you come off as a massive crackpot who wears a tinfoil hat. for example, your post in the mtt forum, where you a)win 20k in a donkament, then b)bitch about the rng again.
according to your logic, anyone who doesn't think the rng is rigged, is a shill.
also, nothing about this is free. in fact, it's probably a -EV bet.
you sir, are a tinfoil hat wearing retard. your logic sucks terribadly.
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I'll do it at 1:1, if you're so convinced it is, put your money where your mouth is
come on, where are you, why haven't you responded, 1:1 is a great price if you're so convinced the RNG is manipulated
why haven't you responded, if the RNG is clearly being manipulated you should have jumped on this AWESOME 1:1 OFFER already!!!!!
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flomo
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This thread is rigged and manipulated.
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Originally Posted by bigred
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hlester25
I am willing to wager up to $100 that the RNG on either FTP or Pokerstars will be proven to be manipulated within the next 5 years. I want 25 to 1 odds in MY favor.
I will ship you $100 UP FRONT after I have confirmed my trust in you that you will pay up if need be. If any news becomes public that PROVES the RNG on FTP or Stars is in any way manipulated you ship me (or find a way to pay me) $2500.
Here is the shill's chance to put their money where their mouth is.
I mean this is a free $100, who wants it?
PM me if interested |
Um, fail bet is fail?
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Originally Posted by OngBonga
But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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you can't seriously come into a poker forum and not expect us to realize how retarded of odds 25:1 is.
comparing it to finding a free 100 dollars in the woods is so laughably incongruous.
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3:1
too high of chance this shit is rigged
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you sir, are a tinfoil hat wearing retard. your logic sucks terribadly.
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hehe
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do the right thing.
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b-rabbit
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i'll bet a million dollars to your 8 billion dollars that things aren't exactly fair in the world
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do the right thing.
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BooG690
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Quote:
Originally Posted by surviva316
you can't seriously come into a poker forum and not expect us to realize how retarded of odds 25:1 is.
comparing it to finding a free 100 dollars in the woods is so laughably incongruous.
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I said I'd take it
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All it'd take is one screwed up board on a single hand to show the RNG was off, has this happened on either of those sites?
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haha!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hlester25
is in any way manipulated
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what do you actually mean by this?
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in before some dumbass posts about how the rng is rigged
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I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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The RNG is rigged! What the jews don't want you to know is that they have screening software to determine your kosher level which is directly proportional to your profits. Durrr is obviously a reference to the hebrew word dôr, hence his profits.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
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Precisely.
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hlester25
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already got action over at 2p2. I have $150 at 25 to 1 that either FTP or Stars will proved to be rigged within 5 years. I have $50 at 50 to 1 on PokerStars alone.
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[ ] OP defines his terms
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Originally Posted by OngBonga
But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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BooG690
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hlester25
already got action over at 2p2. I have $150 at 25 to 1 that either FTP or Stars will proved to be rigged within 5 years. I have $50 at 50 to 1 on PokerStars alone. |
Link please.
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What does "being rigged" mean?
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Originally Posted by givememyleg
What does "being rigged" mean?
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If OP's aces get cracked on the river one more fucking time.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hlester25
I want 25 to 1 odds in MY favor.
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You don't think it's likely then.
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- You're the reason why paradise lost
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Dragon Slayer
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It is definitely rigged. I jumped on a random poker table and all the players got delt 4 cards instead of 2. RNG rigged PF.
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I would like to have your money, but i would not pay up if online poker were proven rigged.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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BooG690
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I'm still waiting on that link...
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Originally Posted by JKDS
[ ] OP defines his terms
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pretty much this, it's a big problem.
I'm also generally a lot less interested in bets when someone is actively trying to pursue them.
and the 25:1 thing, meh
can you define 'manipulated' in relevant context at least?
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BooG690
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I'm still waiting on the 2+2 link of the bet and people that accepted his bet...
...I'm also waiting on some mod to drop the banhammer on this guy. He's just irritating.
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ill seriously give you 10:1 if you define some terms. (i.e. the interpretation of 'manipulated' would be nice).
but i have a feeling you work on the inside on one of these big poker sites and are planning some sort of scam to rig the RNG so you end up being right about all this so you can cash in monies on this prop.
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BooG690
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I accepted AND asked for a link to his mysterious 2+2 post...and nothin.
He was bluffing imo.
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BooG690
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I accepted AND asked for a link to his mysterious 2+2 post...and nothin.
He was bluffing imo.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragon Slayer
It is definitely rigged. I jumped on a random poker table and all the players got delt 4 cards instead of 2. RNG rigged PF.
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AHA!!! I knew I wasn't drunk!!!! The same exact thing happened to me one night.
Online poker is sooooo rigged.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hlester25
Pokerstars will be proven to be manipulated within the next 5 years.
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What do you mean by 'manipulated'?
You trying to pull a trick-PS already 'manipulates' the deck in some draw games. ie... you will not get the cards you discarded in a reshuffle dealt to you on the draw. This does not happen(can't) in live games.
Here's a link to PS reshuffle policy;
Reshuffling the Deck - Card Reshuffles in Draw Poker Games
So yes, Poker Stars already 'manipulates' the deck. Poker Stars was upfront about this BEFORE they did it and the players like it I guess as they continue to do this(I play draw games almost never). Yes, this does change the odds a little bit from what would happen in a live game.
So what do you mean by 'manipulated'?
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ban, he was trying to scam ldo
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BooG690
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Mods, please look into this. I don't feel too safe on having a member like this in the online poker community that I belong to.
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I've been saying that about you for years
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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BooG690
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I've been saying that about you for years
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Um, you lie. This is only my first year here :P
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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I saw you coming.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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ok, done.
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serious question, how could it be a scam if he was going to ship the money first?
my intuition was just that he was a harmless idiot but i know i'm missing something fairly obvious here, help me out.
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hlester25
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so u guys think it is poissible to run 1.6 SD off expectation in AIPF hands and still be ranked in the top .3% in MTTs according to OPR? U think it spossible to have a 68% lifetime ROI on sharkscope when you run worse than 95% of all people with the sample? get a fucking clue. Every winning player in here who makes theri living off of poker is getting ROBBED by the RNG. None of you win as much as you should if the deal was fiar. How can that not make you made. Get a fucking clue. You think there isnt corruption in the world of online poker? pretty fucking hilarious. if ur denying it ur part of it.
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hlester25
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I already shipped $200 on 2p2. its mixed in with the poekr is rigged thread in the internet poker forum if u wanna see it.
I have another prop bet. I bet I run under expectation in my next 10K AIPF hands. I am offering 1.1 to 1 in your favor on the bet. Thats 1.1 to 1 on an absolute 50/50 shot. Who's in?
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hlester25
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theres one reason why the games are so dry... EVERYONE IS FINDING OUT ITS RIGGED. Plain and simple, everyone already knows.
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hlester25
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funny how everyone biotches cuz the games are dry and theres no fish... yeah its because there isnt a fair game out there tyo attract any new players. all the new players are playing live bc of all the bullshit theyve heard about online poker.
you should be wanting some answers but you all inist on tryng to keep a secret that everyone alreayd knmows is BS
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