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If you could choose from the 3 current leading candidates, who would you vote for in November?
Please, only vote in this poll if you are a US citizen.
Clinton vs McCain
Obama vs McCain
Non-US citizens, vote here:
Presidential Poll 4: Clinton vs Obama vs McCain-Non-US Poll
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i guess this can be the discussion thread.
i think theres no chance clinton can beat mccain if they end up facing off. obama can beat mccain, hilary cant beat anyone
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obama ftw! i think he will radically change politics for the better and he will do a great job in foreign relations. he can find a middle ground which i think hilary will struggle with.
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I like mccain, he is a badass. I mean pow for 5 years is sick. That being said i am voting for obama in the texas primary, mccain has it locked up. My vote wont really matter in the actual election though, texas is a very republican state (including me) and it wont be close at all. That being said i want a dem. prez this election, but NOT if it is HRC, i can not stand her at all. HRC=devil
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pow is sick and i got respect for the guy but some of his views.........
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pow is sick and i got respect for the guy but some of his views.........
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I love McCain and I think he will restore a lot of respect abroad for this country by ending torture and shutting down Guantanamo. But he is just too damn pro-war for my tastes. His economic policies are fine, and he has a fairly socially liberal record. His environmental record is decent.
However, I'd vote Obama over McCain and probably McCain over HRC
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Im voting McCain, but will not be sad in anyway if Obama wins.
My dad voted for Obama in the CA primaries. That's pretty cool imo.
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Im voting McCain, but will not be sad in anyway if Obama wins.
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i guess this can be the discussion thread.
i think theres no chance clinton can beat mccain if they end up facing off. obama can beat mccain, hilary cant beat anyone
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While I won't vote for hillary, I disagree with this assertion. However, being surrounded by people in a state whose majority voted for huckabee can construe anyone's views of who the majority will vote for.
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IMO Hilary kills Obama in all the states that are surely going democrat, and Obama wins in states that are swing states. Seems like if the democrats want a winner Obama is going to get the nom.
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I guess I have to say Obama, but I would be ok with McCain.
NM is so fucked up we dont even have the elections results yet and there were so few places to vote that many people didnt wait in line for hours to vote. As of last night Clinton was ahead here by about 100 votes.
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Just don't vote. |
and see the results how?
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http://www.break.com/games/whos-your-candidate.html
I got obama who I voted for in the first place.
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I would hate to see a republican in office again, but McCain is the most qualified. He is pretty bad ass too. I wouldnt mind seeing any of the 3 in office, My only worry is Obamas religion (being Muslim) I hope he wouldnt turn into an extremist.
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Holy Shit, this just in!!
John McCain for Pres
Mitt Romney for Vice Pres
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/b...ey-ticket.aspx
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you should add abstain to the poll!
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Just don't vote. |
and see the results how? |
Click "View Results" below the poll options...?
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I would hate to see a republican in office again, but McCain is the most qualified. He is pretty bad ass too. I wouldnt mind seeing any of the 3 in office, My only worry is Obamas religion (being Muslim) I hope he wouldnt turn into an extremist.
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Lol I hope whoever saidnobama was Muslim is joking
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This article is wrong. Romney has dropped out of the race but he is not McCains running mate. Yet.
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and see the results how? |
Click "View Results" below the poll options...? |
Jeebus, I can't believe I've never noticed that before.
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However, I'd vote Obama over McCain and probably McCain over HRC
This is why Obama needs to beat Hillary.
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Warpe, 3188 posts and still learning new things about FTR.
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I like mccain, he is a badass. I mean pow for 5 years is sick. That being said i am voting for obama in the texas primary, mccain has it locked up. My vote wont really matter in the actual election though, texas is a very republican state (including me) and it wont be close at all. That being said i want a dem. prez this election, but NOT if it is HRC, i can not stand her at all. HRC=devil
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wow, this is a really interesting statement, care to elaborate on why you feel this way?
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I would hate to see a republican in office again, but McCain is the most qualified. He is pretty bad ass too. I wouldnt mind seeing any of the 3 in office, My only worry is Obamas religion (being Muslim) I hope he wouldnt turn into an extremist.
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youre a retard.
Sorry but I just dont have anything constructive to say, mostly due to the lack of thought that you put into your comment in the first place.
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I like mccain, he is a badass. I mean pow for 5 years is sick. That being said i am voting for obama in the texas primary, mccain has it locked up. My vote wont really matter in the actual election though, texas is a very republican state (including me) and it wont be close at all. That being said i want a dem. prez this election, but NOT if it is HRC, i can not stand her at all. HRC=devil
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wow, this is a really interesting statement, care to elaborate on why you feel this way? |
which part? i was kind of all over the place
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I like mccain, he is a badass. I mean pow for 5 years is sick. That being said i am voting for obama in the texas primary, mccain has it locked up. My vote wont really matter in the actual election though, texas is a very republican state (including me) and it wont be close at all. That being said i want a dem. prez this election, but NOT if it is HRC, i can not stand her at all. HRC=devil
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wow, this is a really interesting statement, care to elaborate on why you feel this way? |
which part? i was kind of all over the place |
well what makes you want a democrat in office when you are a self professed republican. A person of your demographic (young, white, self made, from texas, ect) is not the typical obama voter I would think. What is appealing about Obama? This seems to be a trend, people who are swing voters will vote for obama, but throw their vote to mccain as a protest to clinton.
hah, now look, Im all over the place.
But I guess Im just inspired by seeing that my republican texan friend wants to see obama win.
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But I guess Im just inspired by seeing that my republican texan friend wants to see obama win.
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the thing about obama is that everyone thinks he is NOT the status quo. Which is why he is appealing.
In the battle of status quos, people simply prefer a Male POW to a Female.
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how is obama not status quo besides the fact hes black? seriously, this makes no sense.
that being said hes an inspiring speaker and seems to be a unifying, realistic politician who will create gradual positive change.
the most radical dem in the race was edwards.
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how is obama not status quo besides the fact hes black? seriously, this makes no sense.
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well him being black is a big part of it. Now whether thats a good thing or not, we cant change that it simply is. But also the way he speaks as you mention below makes him come across as more radical than he is. Because of this he embodies political change.
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that being said hes an inspiring speaker and seems to be a unifying, realistic politician who will create gradual positive change.
the most radical dem in the race was edwards.
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I agree with this for sure.
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Huckabee will most definitely be McCain's running mate. Mike's appeal in the evangelical South can't be denied. If they are on a ticket together, there is no way I'm voting Republican.
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how is obama not status quo besides the fact hes black? seriously, this makes no sense.
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Huckabee will most definitely be McCain's running mate. Mike's appeal in the evangelical South can't be denied. If they are on a ticket together, there is no way I'm voting Republican.
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Now that Romney is out of the race this is a very scary possibility! Was going to vote independent as I usually do but if this happens I will definately have to vote democratic!
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Now that McCain is (almost) the GOP nominee, what's gonna happen on the Dem side? The Obama camp leaked a worst case scenario yesterday, which assumes that Obama and Clinton stay all tied up going into the convention. This'll give McCain months to campaign against the Dems before they decide on a nominee.
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Huckabee will most definitely be McCain's running mate. Mike's appeal in the evangelical South can't be denied. If they are on a ticket together, there is no way I'm voting Republican.
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Now that McCain is (almost) the GOP nominee, what's gonna happen on the Dem side? The Obama camp leaked a worst case scenario yesterday, which assumes that Obama and Clinton stay all tied up going into the convention. This'll give McCain months to campaign against the Dems before they decide on a nominee.
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The possible tie is a really interesting scenario, if worse comes to worse, I wonder if they will allow those two states they penalized to count their delegates.
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Now that McCain is (almost) the GOP nominee, what's gonna happen on the Dem side? The Obama camp leaked a worst case scenario yesterday, which assumes that Obama and Clinton stay all tied up going into the convention. This'll give McCain months to campaign against the Dems before they decide on a nominee.
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The possible tie is a really interesting scenario, if worse comes to worse, I wonder if they will allow those two states they penalized to count their delegates. |
michigan and florida will not under any circumstances be excluded, this would cause huge problems. If anything does happen concerning the states that jumped the gun, it will be a revote. Hopefully this does happen because it does nothing but benefit obama.
One thing is clear though, the party needs to find a solution to this problem and they need to do it now. If the repubs are given a giant head start, theres no telling what will happen. By the time Obama or Clinton actually get on the campaing trail their funds will be tight since they splurged so much battling it out with each other. Obama though has a very wide base of supporters so this is less worisome in his situation. Everyone who donated to him so far can afford another 10$ or so. Clinton on the other hand has already started to milk her cow dry. Rich or not, her small group of wealthy supporters cant and/or wont keep forking over 50k, 100k, ect.
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that being said hes an inspiring speaker and seems to be a unifying, realistic politician who will create gradual positive change.
the most radical dem in the race was edwards.
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100% agree with this. I think a dem in office this upcoming term will insure change, albeit slow and gradual. Obama is an eloquent speaker and would represent our country well. While i dont really agree with all of his issues being raised as a republican, i dont see any of his views as anything that will severely hurt me or the country. Plus i just hate hrc, she seems like such a stereotypical caustic maniacal politician, u know the "only shows true colors behind closed doors" type.
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Now that McCain is (almost) the GOP nominee, what's gonna happen on the Dem side? The Obama camp leaked a worst case scenario yesterday, which assumes that Obama and Clinton stay all tied up going into the convention. This'll give McCain months to campaign against the Dems before they decide on a nominee.
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The possible tie is a really interesting scenario, if worse comes to worse, I wonder if they will allow those two states they penalized to count their delegates. |
michigan and florida will not under any circumstances be excluded, this would cause huge problems. If anything does happen concerning the states that jumped the gun, it will be a revote. Hopefully this does happen because it does nothing but benefit obama.
One thing is clear though, the party needs to find a solution to this problem and they need to do it now. If the repubs are given a giant head start, theres no telling what will happen. By the time Obama or Clinton actually get on the campaing trail their funds will be tight since they splurged so much battling it out with each other. Obama though has a very wide base of supporters so this is less worisome in his situation. Everyone who donated to him so far can afford another 10$ or so. Clinton on the other hand has already started to milk her cow dry. Rich or not, her small group of wealthy supporters cant and/or wont keep forking over 50k, 100k, ect. |
boost you can only donate 2300 bux to a campaign. Hilary has blue collar support that donates max, along with elderly and hispanic that donate nothing. This is the reason for her funding woes.
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that being said [Obama's] an inspiring speaker and seems to be a unifying, realistic politician who will create gradual positive change.
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[Clinton] seems like such a stereotypical caustic maniacal politician, u know the "only shows true colors behind closed doors" type. |
I agree with both of these thoughts on the Dems.
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Now that McCain is (almost) the GOP nominee, what's gonna happen on the Dem side? The Obama camp leaked a worst case scenario yesterday, which assumes that Obama and Clinton stay all tied up going into the convention. This'll give McCain months to campaign against the Dems before they decide on a nominee.
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The possible tie is a really interesting scenario, if worse comes to worse, I wonder if they will allow those two states they penalized to count their delegates. |
michigan and florida will not under any circumstances be excluded, this would cause huge problems. If anything does happen concerning the states that jumped the gun, it will be a revote. Hopefully this does happen because it does nothing but benefit obama.
One thing is clear though, the party needs to find a solution to this problem and they need to do it now. If the repubs are given a giant head start, theres no telling what will happen. By the time Obama or Clinton actually get on the campaing trail their funds will be tight since they splurged so much battling it out with each other. Obama though has a very wide base of supporters so this is less worisome in his situation. Everyone who donated to him so far can afford another 10$ or so. Clinton on the other hand has already started to milk her cow dry. Rich or not, her small group of wealthy supporters cant and/or wont keep forking over 50k, 100k, ect. |
boost you can only donate 2300 bux to a campaign. Hilary has blue collar support that donates max, along with elderly and hispanic that donate nothing. This is the reason for her funding woes. |
I did not realize this, but my point still stands, hilary has gone to the well one too many times.
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that being said hes an inspiring speaker and seems to be a unifying, realistic politician who will create gradual positive change.
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this seems to be obamas theme. change. this is such nonsense. it has no content whatsoever. what kind of change do you want? pay more social security tax? pay more tax to pay for old peoples' drugs?
and edwards doesnt even stand for anything imo, so idk if i would say he is the most radical. dennis kucinich was by far the most radical left candidate, but he didnt stand a chance in hell because hes so fucking stupid.
edwards is such a scum bag he will say anything. my favorite quote from him was from 2004 when he said, "if john kerry is elected, christopher reeves will walk again." (inferring how kerry is pro-stem cell).
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