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Old 11-07-2004, 01:08 AM     Post subject: Politics #1 (permalink)  
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I have been thinking a little about politics lately - and how and why people vote the way they do.

I came up with the following reasons people vote the way they do:

1) Vote from the wallet: Often people voting in such a way to minimize their taxes or maximize thier social services. Might also vote for policies that favor their industry (i.e., saves their jobs). Usually conservatives, but not always - labor unions or people on welfare (or who have family members on welfare/ss/medicaid etc.).

2) Vote from the lizard brain: People who vote because they fear a particualr outcome. Classic example: people voting for "tough on crime" policies/candidates. Apropos of 2004 - people voting on the terror issue. Fear the hairy libs will take their guns, Fear of the UN, Fear of a Black Planet, whatever. Again, usually conservatives or paranoid drug users worried about excessive police states.

3) Voting your conscious: These are people who vote primarily on "moral" values. Now, sometimes this is coupled with reasons 1) and 2) above (it's immoral for people to get free money, or they fear homos) - but this is a weird mix of idealists and religous zealots. People who vote on an abortion (either way!) litmus test, or are worried about gay marriage, or school prayer or something.


I am solidly in the 3rd category - I vote to minimize worldwide human suffering. Noble perhaps, pointless, probably, but there you have it.
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Old 11-07-2004, 01:25 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Out of curiosity, if you vote to minimize world suffering, then what dictates your vote in races with zero worldwide impact, like local goverment offices, or state initatives?
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Old 11-07-2004, 02:06 AM #3 (permalink)  
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well, minimize local suffering. If I can't decide on that, then it's pot luck.
I generally skip trivial things on the ballot, unless I have good info (like school boards, or in SF we have these dorky 'should it be city policy to..." idiocy.
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Old 11-07-2004, 03:27 AM #4 (permalink)  
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politics suck end of discussion


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Old 11-07-2004, 12:56 PM #5 (permalink)  
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politics suck end of discussion

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Old 11-07-2004, 01:41 PM #6 (permalink)  
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You voted for Kerry Zenbitz, I can tell
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Old 11-07-2004, 06:07 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Yeah, I voted for Kerry - but reluctantly since he is conservative for MY taste <grin>.

2000 I voted for Nader! Not that I am a Green Party nut, but I am opposed to the 2-party system.

So, I am the republicans best friend, even though NY was for Gore by a landslide, so I didn't influence anything.
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Old 11-07-2004, 09:53 PM #8 (permalink)  
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yea, its fun to be part of a system where my vote doesn't matter
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