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DON SnGs (http://www.flopturnriver.com/double-or-nothing-sng-strategy-pre-flop.php)	1	2.86%
Preparation in Poker (http://www.flopturnriver.com/preparation-in-poker.php)	4	11.43%
Poker, the Beautiful Woman (http://www.flopturnriver.com/poker-the-beautiful-woman.php)	4	11.43%
What Makes a Player Top-Tier? (http://www.flopturnriver.com/what-makes-a-player-top-tier.php)	7	20.00%
Getting Off the Bottom (http://poker-basics.flopturnriver.com/getting-off-the-bottom.php)	1	2.86%
Pot Equity Edge in LHE (http://poker-strategy.flopturnriver.com/pot-equity-edge-lhe.php)	4	11.43%
Personal Attacks and the Check Raise (http://www.flopturnriver.com/personal-attacks-and-check-raise.php)	1	2.86%
Exploitation and the FTC Theorem (http://poker-strategy.flopturnriver.com/exploitation-and-ftc-theorem.php)	11	31.43%
Practice Makes Perfect (http://poker-basics.flopturnriver.com/practice-makes-perfect.php)	1	2.86%
Player Types (http://poker-strategy.flopturnriver.com/player-types.php)	1	2.86%
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givememyleg

10-02-2009, 06:24 AM Post subject: Poker Essay Competition - Winners Announced!

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CONGRATULATIONS to Robb who won this contest with 31% of the votes with his article Exploitation and the FTC Theorem. If you haven't read it yet, do it now!

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In second place was our local shemale anti-pms chardrian, with his article What Makes a Player Top-Tier? He/she wins FTR Gear and Full-Tilt Gear!

Third place was a threesome of third world cheap action where Rage2100 came with his article Poker, the Beautiful Woman on spoonitnow who returned the favor with Preparation in Poker on Chopper who pleasured himself with Pot Equity Edge (LHE). They will all be pimpin' FTR Gear in their next hookup.

But of course, the GRAND PRIZE is split between the last FIVE authors who all received 2% of the votes and each win DINNER WITH BIGRED! kevster, WillburForce, PokerDiva (who?!), Illfavor, and yes, would you believe it, iopq, all will be taken out to a restaurant of their choice and given a complimentary foot massage from our man, bigred. Please contact him to setup a time and place.

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DON SnGs (http://www.flopturnriver.com/double-...y-pre-flop.php)
Preparation in Poker (http://www.flopturnriver.com/preparation-in-poker.php)
Poker, the Beautiful Woman (http://www.flopturnriver.com/poker-t...iful-woman.php)
What Makes a Player Top-Tier? (http://www.flopturnriver.com/what-ma...r-top-tier.php)
Getting Off the Bottom (http://poker-basics.flopturnriver.co...the-bottom.php)
Pot Equity Edge in LHE (http://poker-strategy.flopturnriver....y-edge-lhe.php)
Personal Attacks and the Check Raise (http://www.flopturnriver.com/persona...heck-raise.php)
Exploitation and the FTC Theorem (http://poker-strategy.flopturnriver....tc-theorem.php)
Practice Makes Perfect (http://poker-basics.flopturnriver.co...es-perfect.php)
Player Types (http://poker-strategy.flopturnriver....ayer-types.php)

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daven

10-02-2009, 06:43 AM

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any way to rank them 1-10? Sorta like a stv election system or something.

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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10-02-2009, 06:55 AM

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poker the beatiful woman lol/

moar like poker the dirty whore, just ask dogishead

I damage threads that may actually benefit some posters

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10-02-2009, 07:20 AM

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10-02-2009, 07:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by daven

any way to rank them 1-10? Sorta like a stv election system or something.

Yeah, I like that idea. Wonder if it's possible?

My Operation and FTR Rethread: Stations are *sob* so hard to play against

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10-02-2009, 08:10 AM

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Not with our current board and features, sorry!

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10-02-2009, 08:24 AM

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WillburForce will become famous soon enough

can people vote for themselves?

would this be

a) not cool
b) cheating
c) fine - prizes to win, gogogogogogo.

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givememyleg

10-02-2009, 09:17 AM

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10-02-2009, 11:17 AM

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My ass is going to get totally kicked - there's some good stuff here.

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10-02-2009, 01:27 PM

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why dont we vote for the best, but mention our top 3 in the comments after we voted?

LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!

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10-02-2009, 01:58 PM

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10-02-2009, 02:19 PM

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any way to rank them 1-10? Sorta like a stv election system or something.

you could number them, and then pm them in ranked order to a mod

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10-02-2009, 05:09 PM

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idk, if we have like like 30+ votes, which we will, that would be a hassle. won't vote for 1 work?

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10-02-2009, 06:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by givememyleg

idk, if we have like like 30+ votes, which we will, that would be a hassle. won't vote for 1 work?

There's a theorem in mathematical voting theory that goes something like: for any set of constituent preferences, there is an election that can make any of the candidates a winner.

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10-02-2009, 07:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by givememyleg

idk, if we have like like 30+ votes, which we will, that would be a hassle. won't vote for 1 work?

There's a theorem in mathematical voting theory that goes something like: for any set of constituent preferences, there is an election that can make any of the candidates a winner.

you "math guys" kill me. have a beer once in awhile.

LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!

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10-02-2009, 09:57 PM

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This is hard to vote. We somehow have to arrange the vote so the "winner" gets 4th. Sucks that 4th place gets the best prize.

Robb

10-02-2009, 10:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chopper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robb

Quote:

Originally Posted by givememyleg

idk, if we have like like 30+ votes, which we will, that would be a hassle. won't vote for 1 work?

There's a theorem in mathematical voting theory that goes something like: for any set of constituent preferences, there is an election that can make any of the candidates a winner.

you "math guys" kill me. have a beer once in awhile.

Just got back from happy hour with a bunch of my math colleagues, though I'm not quite drunk. Damn. Another missed opportunity...

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kevster

10-02-2009, 10:25 PM

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This is hard to vote. We somehow have to arrange the vote so the "winner" gets 4th. Sucks that 4th place gets the best prize.

toddanderson in da house!

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givememyleg

10-02-2009, 11:25 PM

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i have a theorem that's something like, more work than i have to do is no fun.

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10-03-2009, 03:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Robb

Quote:

Originally Posted by givememyleg

idk, if we have like like 30+ votes, which we will, that would be a hassle. won't vote for 1 work?

There's a theorem in mathematical voting theory that goes something like: for any set of constituent preferences, there is an election that can make any of the candidates a winner.

there are also some interesting facts about phone numbers where getting any single digit wrong won't matter.

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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10-03-2009, 04:22 PM

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What kind of dinner is it? Are we talking Sonic or table service?

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10-03-2009, 05:57 PM

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edit: I just realised that this is poker in the commune - where should it go instead?

I read them all, and decided to grade them. Hopefully nobody gets upset!

don - basic, meh, standard good, but empty. I also disagree with some of the content, and do poorly in DoN tourneys - so i guess the content is correct. 6/10

preparation - the worthwhile content in this article was written by Tommy Angelo, the rest is self-evident once this quote has been read. 3/10

beautiful woman - I like the story. Reading it won't make one much better at poker, but that isn't the point. NH. Polish it a little and submit it to card player or the like 5/10 for making you better at poker, 8/10 for the article

top tier - funny reading this a second time

This is a great article. 8/10

getting off the bottom - all good advice. Not written badly. Nothing new. 4/10

pot equity - this sounds like the stuff I was debating with the limit forum back when I was FTR noobie posting in September 2007. http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ws-t60040.html I hope everyone debating this concept has read Abdul Jalib's work on this concept.
This article is good, Abdul's is better. Those who aren't familiar with this stuff already will gain a lot from this. It also applies in NLHE, sorta. 7/10

checkraise vs personal attack. I think this very rarely applies in the games that most of us play. The guts of this article is to play with some aggression and to make money. 4/10

exploitation and FTC - very good content, but kinda wordy. Worth the read, with cliff notes this would be great 8/10

practise article - telling people to study. Standard stuff, but good analogy and content 7/10

Player types - I got a bunch out of this. Poker is incredibly situational, and the opponent(s) is a key component of the situation. Add even more info for those of us too lazy to do so ourselves and this becomes great. This article would be a great basis for an FTR discussion thread. I still lament the unfortunate demise of the Poker Strategy (or was that theory?) forum on FTR, whenever the forum rejig happened. If that forum had been well modded (does that verb exist?) and only appropriate content left there, the rest moved to BC etc, I think FTR would have been a better place. 7.5/10

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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daven

10-04-2009, 07:42 AM

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Not with our current board and features, sorry!

this is a shame, it's going to be very hard to separate 2nd from 3rd from 4th from 5th from 6th from 7th, yet to me there are an obvious "top 4" as per my post above

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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10-05-2009, 03:08 AM

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vote for me, I need a new hoodie.

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10-05-2009, 03:10 AM

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I voted because I'm cool

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10-06-2009, 09:56 PM

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Yes!!!!!!!!!!! Headshot!

No votes = dinner with Bigred, right?

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10-07-2009, 01:49 AM

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VOTE VOTE VOTE

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10-07-2009, 02:14 AM

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thoughts on another poll - award 1st then vote for second, so that you get a decent sample of readers' opinions?

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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10-07-2009, 02:48 AM

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Quote:

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thoughts on another poll - award 1st then vote for second, so that you get a decent sample of readers' opinions?

Quote:

Originally Posted by OngBonga

But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.

Robb

10-07-2009, 03:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JKDS

Quote:

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thoughts on another poll - award 1st then vote for second, so that you get a decent sample of readers' opinions?

+3

Seems like we might have to break a tie anyway.

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10-09-2009, 07:26 AM

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VOTE VOTE VOTE

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10-09-2009, 12:13 PM

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BLOAT MOAT WROTE

Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.

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10-09-2009, 04:15 PM

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GOAT COAT NOTE

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I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.

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10-11-2009, 09:07 PM

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ship me some schwag!!

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10-12-2009, 12:26 AM

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ship me some schwag!!

maybe you'll get pms

My Operation and FTR Rethread: Stations are *sob* so hard to play against

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10-19-2009, 08:59 AM

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HEY GANG

Sorry again about the delay, I cross my fingers hope to die will get this all figured out tomorrow. Also, congrats Robb for killing the competition with your Exploitation and the FTC Theorem article!

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10-19-2009, 09:02 AM

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first time i've came across this... nice piece robb

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10-19-2009, 12:59 PM

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first time i've came across this... nice piece robb

Thanks, gabe. I thought several of the articles were very good, so I am really darned excited about winning. Can't wait to sport an FTR hoodie to the game theory class I'm teaching next semester

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10-19-2009, 01:51 PM

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Congrats Robb! It is a nice article. I hope more will come later!

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10-20-2009, 02:40 PM

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Can't wait to sport an FTR hoodie to the game theory class I'm teaching next semester

Nice!

Well done, Robb.

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10-20-2009, 03:16 PM

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10-21-2009, 11:36 AM

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10-21-2009, 04:09 PM

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Robb's was really awesome, gj

Check out the new blog!!!

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10-21-2009, 06:09 PM

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Congratulations, Robb! Very good article.

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10-21-2009, 09:46 PM

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haha suckers, I got free full-tilt gear!! My full-tilt ensemble is now almost complete - I just need pants of some sort.

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10-21-2009, 09:48 PM

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Don't you hate pants?

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10-21-2009, 09:54 PM

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skirt would work too.

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10-21-2009, 10:59 PM

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Do you think you've got the legs to wear a skirt?

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10-21-2009, 11:13 PM

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