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daven
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08-01-2010, 10:52 PM
Post subject: poker accounts and deceased estates
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so, what happens when nobody really knows much about your online poker stuff - and then you kick the proverbial...
like, a bunch of us have material amounts of money kicking around on online poker rooms. Thoughts?
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Halv
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Make it so that someone knows about your online poker stuff if you die.
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boost
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ideally if you have a significant amount of money online, you should have a will written up which included your user name and password. I think the best way for your next of kin to go about collecting the money would be to simply log on and withdraw it to your bank acct which would then be a simple matter to deal with. I would not under any circumstances alert the poker site that the deceased is .. well.. deceased. This would probably be the start of a long journey to getting the money off the site.
Realistically though, I don't think many players consider this when their online holdings reach a significant amount. I know I've had over ten grand (thinly veiled brag) online at one point and no way for anyone to know about it, much less access it in the case of my death.
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boost
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Originally Posted by HalvSame
Make it so that someone knows about your online poker stuff if you die.
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I think its more than that. What do you think would happen if you contacted pokerstars or ftp or party and said, "hey, ya.. so-and-so died, and I'm their next of kin.. so if you could just like cut me a check or whatever, that would be great!"?
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UG
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don't die daven!
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bigred
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don't die dozer!
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LOL OPERATIONS
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pm me user/pw I'll make sure it gets to the TAB, errr, to your family.
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bigred
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Are there funny people in New Zealand besides flight of the choncords?
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LOL OPERATIONS
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kiwiMark
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CUTTING ME DEEP HERE
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Are there funny people in New York besides flight of the choncords?
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fyp
Should've gone for this. o dat regret.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
Are there funny looking people in New Zealand besides flight of the choncords?
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Yeah, all of 'em.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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jyms
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Wife knows where my username and passwords are kept. The list also has a couple trusted FTR names that even they don't know who they are. She'll contact them though if anything happens to assist in getting it off the sites.
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CBAT
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Dave, you know I'm always here to talk.
But in all reality, you have a good point.
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Originally Posted by UG
don't die dev!
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if you are dead, you are dead and it won't matter to you
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
Protect dog
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I died once. Then I came back.
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Don't tell the bank that the owner of the account has died either until AFTER you've pulled the money into the account.
Most banks will block all transactions in an effort to prevent fraud after they find out the sole owner of an account has passed away. Get the money kicked in there THEN let them know he's died.
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here? 
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bigred
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragnar4
Don't tell the bank that the owner of the account has died either until AFTER you've pulled the money into the account.
Most banks will block all transactions in an effort to prevent fraud after they find out the sole owner of an account has passed away. Get the money kicked in there THEN let them know he's died.
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imo....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
Are there funny people in New Zealand besides flight of the choncords?
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zforme
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a trusted loved one with all your poker info would be a good place to start
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BennyLaRue
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
Are there funny people in New Zealand besides flight of the choncords?
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Murray > FOTC
And Jemaine >>>>>>> Bret, btw.
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kevster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boost
I think the best way for your next of kin to go about collecting the money would be to simply log on and withdraw it to your bank acct which would then be a simple matter to deal with.
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This is simple but arguably illegal.
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Originally Posted by boost
I think its more than that. What do you think would happen if you contacted pokerstars or ftp or party and said, "hey, ya.. so-and-so died, and I'm their next of kin.. so if you could just like cut me a check or whatever, that would be great!"? |
I don't see how money in Stars is any different to any financial institution. If it's nominated in a legally binding will then the executor can a forward copy of the death certificate to Stars and then appropriate the money as specified in the will.
It's more complicated if there's not a will but it can still be sorted. I went through a similar process recently for a deceased relative with no will, obviously not for Stars but for various shares, bank accounts etc. There is hassle but it's not difficult. This is in the UK though and the amount of work needed to get the cash is bound to depend on the country you live in.
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This is the United States and I'm guessing it would be a bitch to get the monies off. Simple, but illegal > legal bullshit that will take 8 years to get your monies.
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bigred
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BennyLaRue
Murray > FOTC
And Jemaine >>>>>>> Bret, btw.
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I saw one of his standups where he said he had a mohawk and people would ask him if he was a punk rocker. He would reply "no, just like the stegosaurus"
hilarious
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LOL OPERATIONS
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Most of you are on here are young so let me assure you that by the time you die you'll likely have some miserable bitch of an X-wife who will have already taken all your shit including your passwords!
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Like I'd tell my whore wife my SN/pw to my poker monies. If/when I have kids I'll put the name and pw into the will and leave it to him (cuz its gonna be a boy ldo) when he turns 18. I don't trust bitches, and I'll be teaching my kid poker when he can learn basic math.
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bigred
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dranger7070
Like I'd tell my whore wife my SN/pw to my poker monies. If/when I have kids I'll put the name and pw into the will and leave it to him (cuz its gonna be a boy ldo) when he turns 18. I don't trust bitches, and I'll be teaching my kid poker when he can learn basic math.
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Thread not intended for your busto ass
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LOL OPERATIONS
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I thought this was pretty interesting so I e-mailed Stars support to ask what their procedure was:
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Originally Posted by LyneM, Stars Support
In the event that we do receive a report that you have sadly
passed away, our first actions will be to freeze your account and
all funds therein. Your next of kin will then need to provide
evidence that you have passed away (Death Certification) and
identification that they are the next of kin (as stated within
the death certification). Any funds within the account will be
sent via cheque to the name and address as registered within the
account upon provision of this information.
At no time will PokerStars allow access to your account by a
third party upon notification.
Please note, we do not accept advice from players as to the
preferred disbursement of their bankroll, all instructions must
be noted in your legal and biding Will document.
I hope this information is sufficient in answering your query and
if we can be of further assistance, please contact us.
Regards,
LyneM
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boost
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ya, maybe I have been a little too paranoid on this issue.. just the idea of having thousands and thousands of dollars stuck in an off shore account sucks.
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dranger7070
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Pro tip: Don't die.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dranger7070
Like I'd tell my whore wife my SN/pw to my poker monies. If/when I have kids I'll put the name and pw into the will and leave it to him (cuz its gonna be a boy ldo) when he turns 18. I don't trust bitches, and I'll be teaching my kid poker when he can learn basic math.
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lol wow you are ridiculous
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Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.
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I was kidding
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dranger7070
This is the United States and I'm guessing it would be a bitch to get the monies off. Simple, but illegal > legal bullshit that will take 8 years to get a few cents after the lawyers get most of your monies in fees.
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FYP
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08-05-2010, 01:30 PM
Post subject: отвязные секс
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ростовская доска объявлений знакомства ,гродненские сайты знакомств
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bigred
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ростовская доска объявлений знакомства ,гродненские сайты знакомств
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Yeah but what about gas mileage?
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LOL OPERATIONS
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Pretty rude to put him on the spot like that bigred.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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boost
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Pretty rude to put him on the spot like that bigred.
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russians are the foils of canadians. Where in canadian culture you cannot be too polite, in russian culture its impossible to be too rude.
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that's not true in my experience.
I've had a couple tech support call center jobs (calls from around the world) and russians are one group of people who generally stood out as being incredibly friendly and easy going.
The rudest people I dealt with were generally americans (felt they were entitled to always get anything they wished for, whether it was actually possible or not), and indians (the kind with the dot on the head, rather than than fireworks/casino kind) who tended to be extremely impatient. By rudest I don't mean on average, but the most memorable examples.
and LOL at the babelfish translation of what i assume was supposed to be spam
"the Rostov board of the declarations of acquaintance, the Grodnensk sites of the acquaintances"
I'll buy it!!
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Americans are assholes. 
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I am an asshole. |
What an incredibly insensitive thing to say.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Robb
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dranger7070
I'll be teaching my kid poker when he can learn basic math.
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So, about age 27...
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dranger7070
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Just like his daddy!
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Quote:
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russians are one group of people who generally stood out as being incredibly friendly and easy going.
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Yeah, drunk ppl are fun.
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