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Old 10-18-2007, 04:44 AM     Post subject: OK who wants to do a calculus problem? #1 (permalink)  
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Find dy/dx (or just call it y') by implicit differentiation.

tan(x/y) = x + y

I see the answer but I need to understand it. Can someone explain it well plz? I did the following so far:

1) Derivative of tan(x/y) = [sec(x/y)]^2 * [(y-xy')/y^2]
is equal to
2) Derivative of x + y = 1 + y'

Is this right so far? If so then I'm just having trouble simplifying the way the book does I guess.
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Old 10-18-2007, 06:07 AM #2 (permalink)  
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what exactly is given (not the answer), and what exactly do you need to show
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Old 10-18-2007, 06:21 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Old 10-18-2007, 06:26 AM #4 (permalink)  
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what exactly is given (not the answer), and what exactly do you need to show
tan(x/y) = x + y is given

answer in back of book is...

y' = [ysec^2(x/y)-y^2] / [y^2 + xsec^2(x/y)]
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Old 10-18-2007, 06:29 AM #5 (permalink)  
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what exactly is given (not the answer), and what exactly do you need to show
tan(x/y) = x + y is given

answer in back of book is...

y' = [ysec^2(x/y)-y^2] / [y^2 + xsec^2(x/y)]
Are you sure you typed that in correctly because I'm getting the same answer except with the bold term not there at all.
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Old 10-18-2007, 06:31 AM #6 (permalink)  
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i typed it correctly mcat
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Old 10-18-2007, 06:32 AM #7 (permalink)  
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so all you need to do is solve for y' in the equatino you wrote in (1)

[sec(x/y)]^2 * [(y-xy')/y^2] = 1 + y'

so distribute the left side, then move the term with the y' in it to the right side

ill post it out if that doesnt help
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never mind their answer is correct

try setting that funky secant expression to equal K and then simplify it that'll make things easier
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ah thanks mcat that worked out nicely
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Old 10-18-2007, 11:52 AM #10 (permalink)  
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