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Haynesworth to the Skins...
Vrabel traded to the Chiefs...
Kellew Winslow traded to the Bucs...
It's PAN-DAM-MOAN-IUM!!!
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I'm thinking about putting my fandom on the FA market
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$100M
The guy is obviously a beast of a player, but I still think he should be out of the league.
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He's just passionate.
And more importantly can someone explain to me how the Redskins can sign Haynesworth to a 41mil guaranteed contract and Hall to 21mil gt'd with only 8mil in available cap space? Is this like a soft cap just for Daniel Snyder's team or did he just buy the cheap ass Chiefs remaining cap space from them.
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I am a Redskins fan and I am not very overwhelmed with the acquisition of Albert Haynesworth for several reasons:
1) The Skins have a history of getting high priced big name free agents and they ALL have been busts. This could easily be Dana Stubblefield, the sequel.
2) Headstomp. I mean, really. Our team may not be the best but we have classy players and Haynesworth clearly does not fit the bill.
3) Our defense is not the problem as we were 4th last year and have been solid since 2004.
4) Haynesworth had some very good company on Tennessee's line and he may not really be as good as advertised.
I am glad we retained Deangello Hall since he is the only DB we have that can actually catch the ball (pretty sure we led the league in dropped INT's with like 20), but dumping Shawn Springs seems dumb as hell. He had some injury issues last year but he was still probably the best cover corner we have. If any corner shoulda got dumped its Fred Smoot because he can't really do much other than run his mouth, and watching him try to tackle is a laugh.
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nat is just trying to toy with my emotions by bringing up haynesworth.
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CASSEL TO KC for a 2nd ROUNDER!!!! OMFG!!!
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Actually, Haynesworth's deal is actually essentially 4 years 48 million because there's some "poison pill" (yes i hate this term but thats hat they call it) that makes the base salary so big in the 5th year that they have to cut him with not too much penalty (at least thats what my impression is from what i've read).
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CASSEL TO KC for a 2nd ROUNDER!!!! OMFG!!!
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Yeah, that's pretty good for KC. I actually buy the argument that Cassell is a system QB, and KC's new HC Todd Haley is not a system coach.
Hell I doubt that he could understand a system as complicated as
1 insert coin
2 twist knob
3 get candy.
Let ALONE a complicated football system. He's a vertical attack guy not a system guy.
I think Cassell will be good in KC, but not great.
B-Dawk in Orange and Blue. I am NOT happy about that. HE's leaving Philly because he can't shed blockers without help, how in the world is he supposed to thrive in a 3-4?
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here? 
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Yeah I would of just stuck with Thigpen in the "Arrowspread" offense, but I guess I don't mind giving up a second rounder for Vrabel and Cassel. Would of been pissed if we gave up our first pick. Looks like we will take Curry now.
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Oya, NYJ trying to buy another Playoff team 
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Let me get this straight. Pioli "player personnel" can find a guy the quality of Matt Cassel in round 7, but we give up a 2nd rounder and have to pay this guy franchise type money for a "good" QB. I hope he's better than just good.
I've never been a fan of the new regime going after the old players to make a winner. Not a big fan of it now. But if Parcells can make it work in MIA, maybe??
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NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports Jay Cutler is upset after his name was involved in convoluted trade talks involving Matt Cassel.
Before the Pats traded Cassel to the Chiefs, the Bucs, Lions, and Broncos became entwined in the talks. Tampa called Denver about a three-way deal that would have sent Cassel to the Broncos and Cutler to the Bucs. The Lions also knocked on Denver's door about Cutler with Cassel as potential bait, but the Broncos turned down both offers after "entertaining the notion." Schefter was clear that the Broncos only fielded calls and did not instigate talks.
-- whoa.
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
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Well, trading for Cassel is safer than taking some guy on the second day. We also have a tonnnn of cap space, so I don't think it's too big of deal to pay him.
Vrabel is a veteran who will bring leadership to the Chiefs, and lord knows we need LBs especially since some genius decided we are going to run the 3-4. I'd say KC has two decent LBs in Vrabel and Derrick Johnson and then two huge holes to fill (hopefully not with Rocky Boiman and Pat Thomas  ). Also, wtf is our defensive line going to look like? They say Dorsey (1s round pick last year!) is too small for nose guard and too slow for end. Hali is worthless without a premiere pass rusher on the opposite end. Turk McBride lol. I guess fat ass Tank Tyler is going to be our nose guard.
Idk when the last time a LB went top 3 and I would rather get Crabtree, but we will take Curry because of his great combine and our desperation for LBs  .
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Kitna traded to the cowboys for Anthony Henry
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Wait, so all we got for Vrabel and Cassel is a 2nd round pick?
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i think Cassel to the Chiefs for a 2nd round pick is pretty f'ing awesome for the Chiefs... you aren't likely to win Championships with Thigpen, no matter how much fun it might be to watch. A high 2nd round pick is squaadoosh when you think about C-Pep broken was traded to Dolphins for a 2nd round pick.. A.J. Feeley was traded for a 2nd round pick.. and Matt Schaub was traded for TWO 2nd round picks.
With all the cap space the Chiefs don't have enough players to spend that money on... it's a ridiculous good pick up.
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chiefs? superbowl? wat? i think their train of thought should read something like this: well, cassel has a better shot of getting us to .500.
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seriously, that's all we got?
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lol at the Chiefs getting both of those guys for a 2nd round pick
does this make us a contender? heck no, but at least we've got a good chance at getting to .500 and an outside chance at a playoff spot next year. wow.
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SERIOUSLY WTF IS GOING ON
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lol at the Chiefs getting both of those guys for a 2nd round pick
does this make us a contender? heck no, but at least we've got a good chance at getting to .500 and an outside chance at a playoff spot next year. wow.
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Agree... there simply aren't enough guys currently on the roster worth the kind of cap space the Chiefs have available... and the FA pool isn't all that sexy either. Kind of surprised they didn't make a play at one of the bigger OL guys... but this is just a huge huge win for dem chiefs.
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Hell... as is, Vrabel is probably their 2nd best LBer
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was Vrabel even going to make an impact next year for the Patriots?
2nd round pick for two guys that would see a lot of bench time might be a steal, no?
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Hell... as is, Vrabel is probably their 2nd best LBer
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ya wish chiefs would of picked up bart scott or vilma or boley
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was Vrabel even going to make an impact next year for the Patriots?
2nd round pick for two guys that would see a lot of bench time might be a steal, no?
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I think Cassel proved last year he can compete at the professional level and complete reasonably well. Vrabel is old and needed to be replaced but I think we should have gotten a little more considering we don't know wtf is going to happen next season with Brady.
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NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports Jay Cutler is upset after his name was involved in convoluted trade talks involving Matt Cassel.
Before the Pats traded Cassel to the Chiefs, the Bucs, Lions, and Broncos became entwined in the talks. Tampa called Denver about a three-way deal that would have sent Cassel to the Broncos and Cutler to the Bucs. The Lions also knocked on Denver's door about Cutler with Cassel as potential bait, but the Broncos turned down both offers after "entertaining the notion." Schefter was clear that the Broncos only fielded calls and did not instigate talks.
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just cause mcdaniels coached cassel. whos the broncos gm now? is mcdaniels also handling that?
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was Vrabel even going to make an impact next year for the Patriots?
2nd round pick for two guys that would see a lot of bench time might be a steal, no?
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I think Cassel proved last year he can compete at the professional level and complete reasonably well. Vrabel is old and needed to be replaced but I think we should have gotten a little more considering we don't know wtf is going to happen next season with Brady. |
it's motherfucking TOM BRADY, what the eff do you think is going to happen? he's going to be TOM BRADY, that's what.
p.s. kind of ironic that Cassel was given a chance to play b/c of Pollard's hit on Brady, now they're going to be teammates. I think he should at least buy him dinner once or twice.
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bye dawk 
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This is going to be top 3 worst offseason moves. Eagles so dumb.
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LOL OPERATIONS
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I don't think we should've given him the 5/17 mill he got from Denver, but c'mon man...Wow.
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I don't think we should've given him the 5/17 mill he got from Denver, but c'mon man...Wow.
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Yea 17 mil for 5 years is a lot when you consider he isn't gonna play 5 more seasons. On the other hand the Broncos safteys are so bad that having an experienced leader back there will be a huge help. Our secondary is pretty solid if they can stay healthy, our linebackers are good now lets hope we can get some D-lineman
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I don't think we should've given him the 5/17 mill he got from Denver, but c'mon man...Wow.
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Yea 17 mil for 5 years is a lot when you consider he isn't gonna play 5 more seasons. |
not sure how much he got guaranteed, but in the NFL they cut your ass if you can't play
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B-Dawk only got 7.2 guaranteed.
Effectivley it's 7.2 mill for 2 seasons if the Broncos exercise his 2nd year poison pill.
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
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Now, how about some receivers for Matt Cassel?
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"Jay Cutler is now infuriated and wants OUT of Denver"
Who the fuck does he think he is? John Elway?
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"Jay Cutler is now infuriated and wants OUT of Denver"
Who the fuck does he think he is? John Elway?
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Thats a false statement, I just read the transcript of the interview. The real question is who the fuck does Josh McDaniels think HE is? He comes in succeeding a 2 time super bowl coach and proceeds to attempt to dismantle the only thing the team has going for it? Trading Cutler (a much better prospect) for Cassel only because hes comfortable with Cassel and Cassel knows his system? Its ludacris and is creating a huge rift between the fans and the new head coach.
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lol at the Chiefs getting both of those guys for a 2nd round pick
does this make us a contender? heck no, but at least we've got a good chance at getting to .500 and an outside chance at a playoff spot next year. wow.
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At first i was like, wtf?!?!?!?!?!?!? Then i realized which division you guys were in.
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I love Dawk as much as any die-hard Iggles fan. He plays with heart, every down, every game. But there's no denying that he hasn't just lost a step, he's lost several. He wasn't even really playing safety in passing situations late this season, he was usually closer to the line either blitzing or covering underneath. $7.5M guaranteed is absurd for him. I would have been pissed if the Iggs matched that offer. Banner & Reid are cutthroat when it comes to cutting veterans loose but their track record doing it is great. This is a brutal league where the average career lasts 3.5 years and even the best players' abilities decline quickly after a certain age. Banner & Reid get that and it's one of the reasons the Eagles have been good pretty consistently for so long.
All that being said, I hope Dawk proves me wrong and earns every incentive dollar in his contract.
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Antonio Bryant to the Texans!!! Woot; FINALLY a defensive end to play opposite Mario!
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Antonio Bryant to the Texans!!! Woot; FINALLY a defensive end to play opposite Mario!
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seriously, that's all we got?
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... and $20 million in cap space
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Antonio Bryant to the Texans!!! Woot; FINALLY a defensive end to play opposite Mario!
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lol, I be dumbs. Should I change it? Meh; whatevs.
Doesn't change the fact that we get a nice DE!
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"Jay Cutler is now infuriated and wants OUT of Denver"
Who the fuck does he think he is? John Elway?
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Thats a false statement, I just read the transcript of the interview. The real question is who the fuck does Josh McDaniels think HE is? He comes in succeeding a 2 time super bowl coach and proceeds to attempt to dismantle the only thing the team has going for it? Trading Cutler (a much better prospect) for Cassel only because hes comfortable with Cassel and Cassel knows his system? Its ludacris and is creating a huge rift between the fans and the new head coach. |
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=394...goryid=2459789
Its a business dude, in which players are commodities, much like we use chips.
You trade them if you can get a larger amount in return. No need to go all cry baby over possibly being traded, just because you made the probowl last year.
Plus, his numbers sucked, but so did many QBs, so I shouldn't complain there.
If you as a player are so fucking good, nobody in their right mind will ever try to trade you. So suck it up and become better and/or start winning games, then shed tears. Simple.
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And warner wants to go to SF
WTF? He's 37, and SF has no receivers, only Vernon Davis
All Zona needs this year is good players deep (At CB, FS, SS, assuming Cromartie got better), and two new, fresh, young running backs who can hold onto the ball to share the backfield with Edge (if he's stilll around), and they can repeat their improbable run again.
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KC should get Ray Lewis, Houshmanzadah, and spend their first five picks on lineman (specially defensive) and defenders. Boom, 2010 AFC champions IMO.
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KC should get Ray Lewis, Houshmanzadah, and spend their first five picks on lineman (specially defensive) and defenders, and injure tom brady again. Boom, 2010 AFC champions IMO.
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A healthy Tom Brady is auto AFC champs.
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