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anybody watching the NFL draft today? I will be from wire to wire! The Packers must rock.
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I think the draft is pretty boring, but I usually watch it anyway just because I miss my football during this time of year. It seems like some people look forward to it more than the actual season which I don't understand.
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way to go Lions gg
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wtf are the redskins doingggg
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1) Draft Laron Landry
2) ???
3) Domination?
well, i'm a chiefs fan. and they need o-line & wr's, so, they'll probably draft a cb or dt or some stoopid shit. worried about how damon huard will perform as a starter if they end up trading trent green to the doophins, meh, how can any quarterback perform without a decent o-line? sackfest 2007 coming right up.
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Landry was a good pick. I would rather have had them trade down and take a defensive lineman... But we're gonna have a real sick secondary this year.
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Yeah I'm excited for our secondary this year. I mean it could be a disaster but it could be awesome.
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Chiefs ?Brady Quinn?
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04-28-2007, 07:51 PM
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anybody watching the NFL draft today? I will be from wire to wire! The Packers must rock.
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Hell yea dude another pack fan!!!
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That'd be awesome.
Carl Peterson (Chiefs' GM) said he'd take him if he fell to 23rd....
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Holla, so I guess unless a trade happens....
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04-28-2007, 08:03 PM
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anybody watching the NFL draft today? I will be from wire to wire! The Packers must rock.
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Hell yea dude another pack fan!!! |
I thought everyone was a Packer fan!
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maybe dallasssssssss
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gg brady quinn, finally. cleveland traded up and took the cowboys' pick in 22nd.
he should've never fell this far...
i'm disappointed to see all these safeties disappearing...eagles need to snag one up...most likely though, merriweather is gonna get picked up, which is a great pick, actually. he's an animal. 
lol@the lions.
i'm pretty sure buffalo has a monkey as their GM.
lol@the dolphins.
this has been an interesting and weird draft so far.
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Agreed. I'm a Browns fan...
I wasn't sold that Quinn was worth #3 overall, but he's a great value at 22. I don't like giving up your #1 next year to move up... BUT, if you truly think he's worth the #3 overall, then it's a wise move.
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would've been interesting to see if the chiefs would've taken quinn if dallas hadn't traded. maybe they would've traded their pick. maybe, maybe, maybe, if, if, if. as it stands, wr is goot. maybe get some o-line next round, we'll see what happens. i'm pleased with d. bowe, hope it pans out.
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Will the Packers friggin pick somebody instead of trading all their damn picks!
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That'd be awesome.
Carl Peterson (Chiefs' GM) said he'd take him if he fell to 23rd....
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Bowe is okay for the Chiefs, we haven't had a decent WR in like, well, forever?
Dammit I wanted to see Brady Quinn in red......the Chiefs would have picked him for sure if he fell to 23.
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Moss for a 4th round pick, lol. We are winning the super bowl this year.
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jesus christ. patriots just murdered the offseason.
and ffs, i hate being an eagles fan. granted, last years draft pwned hard. and should pay off this year...still sketchy on this year though...QB with the their first pick? WHYYY
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H.B. blades late round steal for skins.
As well as jordan palmer, i was happy with late rounds.
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jesus christ. patriots just murdered the offseason.
and ffs, i hate being an eagles fan. granted, last years draft pwned hard. and should pay off this year...still sketchy on this year though...QB with the their first pick? WHYYY
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They sure look like the favorites right now, but I don't think any team is ever >50% to win the Super Bowl in the NFL.
I think the Colts could hang with this team if we hadn't lost both of our starting cornerbacks, but it's going to be tough with the scrubs we have in our secondary now (other than Bob Sanders).
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Tom Brady with real receivers has resulted in multiple super bowls. Hell, we almost did it this year without a real receiver on the team.
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Tom Brady with real receivers has resulted in multiple super bowls. Hell, we almost did it this year without a real receiver on the team.
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I think the Colts could hang with this team if we hadn't lost both of our starting cornerbacks, but it's going to be tough with the scrubs we have in our secondary now (other than Bob Sanders).
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Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.
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I think the Colts could hang with this team if we hadn't lost both of our starting cornerbacks, but it's going to be tough with the scrubs we have in our secondary now (other than Bob Sanders).
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at least they addressed the pressing need of slot receiver in the draft!
In all seriousness though, I think AG will be a great fit for the Colts. In many ways, I like him more than Ginn to be honest. He has underrated speed, sure hands, and is VERY smart. He was a 4.0 student at OSU and has his head on right. I expect him to be an important part of the Colts offense come post-season.
Also, given the Colts defense, I wouldn't be super concerned about the CB position. IMO the safeties are more important in Dungy's cover 2 scheme.
About the Moss trade, I think too many people are making too big of a deal about it. The guy is clearly past his prime, but I'll admit, if he can be even a shadow of his former self, it will be a great trade. I like the trade (from both perspectives) right now, but Moss hasn't done anything on the field the last 2 years. I understand the situation in Oakland so there's a chance that he could surprise all of us (well, surprise me).
If I were a New England fan, I'd be a lot more excited about the FA addition of Adalius Thomas. This guy is a monster, and Belichick will have a field day with his amazing versatility.
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Agreed. I'm a Browns fan...
I wasn't sold that Quinn was worth #3 overall, but he's a great value at 22. I don't like giving up your #1 next year to move up... BUT, if you truly think he's worth the #3 overall, then it's a wise move.
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This trade pisses me off. Especially since the rest is soo good (addressing important holes). I feel like they're mortgaging the future to win now because Crennel/Savage are on the hotseat. Quinn won ZERO important games in college, he almost cries because he's not a top 5 pick. Is this person going to be successful in the NFL? I say no chance.
If the browns finish 8-8 this may, MAY be a decent trade. If they're 6-10 and Quinn sucks because the line is shaky, and Dallas gets a top 10 pick I'm fucking done with the Browns.
I like the team, but don't like the players as is:
Edwards: hot-headed, talks shit, hasn't performed yet
Winslow: nuff said
Lewis: Dealing cocaine while making millions in the NFL? His thugness was a good fit in Baltimore
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Sure it is. It wasn't last year when we had one good CB and one average one, but now we have nothing but underachievers and unproven players. The run defense is still bad but it improved greatly toward the end of the season.
Also, I was talking about how we match up against the Patriots who have one of the five worst running games in the league and one of the best passing games. Why would I be more worried about the run defense against them?
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Actually, the Colts did need another receiver. After Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne we have...no one. The Colts' offense works because we have a large number of receiving threats and no QB in the NFL is able to keep track of all of them and find the open man the way Peyton Manning can. It's not a coincidence that the Colts' slump last year coincided with Dallas Clark's injury. When Manning and Wayne were the only threats, teams just double-teamed them on every play and the offense struggled. It wasn't the defense's fault that we lost 20-17 to the Titans.
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Agreed. I'm a Browns fan...
I wasn't sold that Quinn was worth #3 overall, but he's a great value at 22. I don't like giving up your #1 next year to move up... BUT, if you truly think he's worth the #3 overall, then it's a wise move.
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This trade pisses me off. Especially since the rest is soo good (addressing important holes). I feel like they're mortgaging the future to win now because Crennel/Savage are on the hotseat. Quinn won ZERO important games in college, he almost cries because he's not a top 5 pick. Is this person going to be successful in the NFL? I say no chance.
If the browns finish 8-8 this may, MAY be a decent trade. If they're 6-10 and Quinn sucks because the line is shaky, and Dallas gets a top 10 pick I'm fucking done with the Browns.
I like the team, but don't like the players as is:
Edwards: hot-headed, talks shit, hasn't performed yet
Winslow: nuff said
Lewis: Dealing cocaine while making millions in the NFL? His thugness was a good fit in Baltimore |
Quinn is a punk ass arrogant fuck. Don't like him never will. The Browns will always suck IMO if they keep making stupid picks. As for Smith, kind of glad he went late to take the pressure off of being a first rounder.
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random brit ramble on a foootball thread....
but are there any like NFL management games out there for PC or something?
Theres eastside manager for hockey and some baseball one but not for football that i can find to play in the uk 
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hey now, I hate notre dame as much as any other sensible person out there, but give Quinn a chance. He has more talent than Frye ever will, is a hard worker, and has his head on straight. I know we gave up a lot to get him, but only time will tell if it was a good move. I wanted Thomas (Quinn #2) and couldn't be happier that we got both.
mcatdog, I actually like the gonzo pick. Read the rest of my post.
About the Colts defense, there are obvious holes in it but those are largely covered up with such a stellar offense that scores so many points and keeps the defense off the field for long periods of time. The scheme relies on a ferocious pass rush and tough corners that can come up to support the run and play short zones, NOT to have superb cover corners that play the deep zones-- that is largely the safeties job in dungy's scheme. It was when he was in tampa and still is.
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jesus christ. patriots just murdered the offseason.
and ffs, i hate being an eagles fan. granted, last years draft pwned hard. and should pay off this year...still sketchy on this year though...QB with the their first pick? WHYYY
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man, i live and die with this fucking team, and i've had to watch it year after year, but honestly, i think their best chance still lies with him, for a long time. he's a player. i want more than anything for the day to come where he wins them a championship...though, the rumors about him being a complete baby about this are disheartening. not shocking, but disheartening. allegedly he hasn't responded to a single phone call from andy reid and company. hi dere team disharmony round 2. getting inspired by this rather than being a bitch would be positively super, ty donovan.
i would really love if he'd shed this fucking baby complex, stay healthy for one year, and just win us a fucking championship. jesus.
on another note, this is the worst draft i can remember in a long time, from the outside looking in. granted, our history of busts is fucking notorious. god. i'm on utter life tilt. why can't they do things right? they had other spots to address, such as their secondary, which they foolishly waited until the later rounds to get. granted, the picks they really wanted were gone by the time their pick hit them, which is why i presume they traded down. but god. talk about shitcanning the draft.
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madden. duh?
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jesus christ. patriots just murdered the offseason.
and ffs, i hate being an eagles fan. granted, last years draft pwned hard. and should pay off this year...still sketchy on this year though...QB with the their first pick? WHYYY
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man, i live and die with this fucking team, and i've had to watch it year after year, but honestly, i think their best chance still lies with him, for a long time. he's a player. i want more than anything for the day to come where he wins them a championship...though, the rumors about him being a complete baby about this are disheartening. not shocking, but disheartening. allegedly he hasn't responded to a single phone call from andy reid and company. hi dere team disharmony round 2. getting inspired by this rather than being a bitch would be positively super, ty donovan.
i would really love if he'd shed this fucking baby complex, stay healthy for one year, and just win us a fucking championship. jesus.
on another note, this is the worst draft i can remember in a long time, from the outside looking in. granted, our history of busts is fucking notorious. god. i'm on utter life tilt. why can't they do things right? they had other spots to address, such as their secondary, which they foolishly waited until the later rounds to get. granted, the picks they really wanted were gone by the time their pick hit them, which is why i presume they traded down. but god. talk about shitcanning the draft.
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I think McNabb is a good player when he's on the field, but as an outsider, I can see the train of thought behind getting a good young QB. If you can't stay on the field, you aren't any good for your team. I know McNabb is somewhat of an icon in philly, but sometimes you have to look past that and make good football decisions.
One thing about the Eagles though, it seems like any QB they put back there does well. I remember 4 years or so ago, they were on their 3rd stringer (AJ Feeley maybe?) and he was playing well and winning games. I didn't follow the NFL as much back then as I do now, but you even saw it this year when Garcia came in and played lights out. I was shocked when you guys didn't re-sign him for a year or two.
As long as Reid is the coach and the organization (correctly) puts a lot of emphasis on the trenches, I think the QB position will have success there.
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madden. duh?
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ha, and to think at the end of the season (before his stock started soaring), I wanted this kid in the 2nd after thomas in the 1st.
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As long as ... the organization (correctly) puts a lot of emphasis on the trenches, I think the QB position will have success there.
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This is also what I don't like about the Quinn trade. Success in the NFL doesn't come from a great quarterback (which I doubt Quinn even is). It comes from a good quarterback playing behind a great line.
Likely Quinn gets hurt because the line is still weak (although getting better) and never realizes whatever potential he may/may not have.
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I don't see what the hype is on this kid. He didn't win any big games at ND. The popularity of ND and their players/coaches makes me vomit.
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