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Old 09-14-2006, 08:53 PM     Post subject: need help with probability stuff NSFW Lemon Party link #1 (permalink)  
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i have a bunch of work due in my probability class due tomorrow. i havent been to class all week. also, ive never had a probability class before.

the assignment is mostly related to the normal distribution. the first question is something like: 'flip a coin 400 times, if H is the number of heads, find the normal approximation to P(190 < H < 200)'

help me get started.
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Old 09-14-2006, 10:29 PM #2 (permalink)  
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You would think, asking a bunch of poker players, that you'd be inundated with replies. Its been way too long since my Discrete Math class where i did this stuff.
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Old 09-14-2006, 10:42 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Old 09-14-2006, 11:26 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Old 09-15-2006, 12:04 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Does this help?

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Old 09-15-2006, 12:14 AM     Post subject: Re: need help with probability stuff #6 (permalink)  
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i have a bunch of work due in my probability class due tomorrow. i havent been to class all week. also, ive never had a probability class before.

the assignment is mostly related to the normal distribution. the first question is something like: 'flip a coin 400 times, if H is the number of heads, find the normal approximation to P(190 < H < 200)'

help me get started.
Ok. I dont know what a normal approximation means, and its been a long time since ive done this but id do this ===>


First you gotta standardise the thing. You give each of your numbers a Z score.

Z score is the number of standard deviations from the mean your number is.

Tossing a coin 400 times you expect the mean number of heads to be 200 so from each value you take 200.

you now have

between -10 and 0.

Now you divide by the standard deviation.

The standard deviation in a binomial problem is given by

sqrt(N*p*(1-p))

where N is the number of trials
p is the probability of a success (50%)

so in this case the varience (standard deviation squared) is

N*p*(1-p) = 400*0.5*0.5 = 100

so the standard deviation is 10

so your standardised results should be between

-1 and 0 standard deviations of the mean.


Somewhere or other you should have a table that tells you the percentage of area of a normal distribution curve that lies between 0 and z.
If not then this one will do (http://www.statsoft.com/textbook/sttable.html).

It says that 0.0398 of the area lies between 0 and 1 (or 0 and -1). In other words the probability P(190 < H < 200) = 0.0398.


As I said before its been a while since ive done this so if it turns out to be bollocks then...well.... meh.
I think its right though. If you need anymore explaining ill be awake a little while yet.
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i never found this question on my english finals.
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Old 09-15-2006, 10:28 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Although i find this pretty hilarious, some of us are at work and can get into serious trouble clicking on a link like that.
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I'd like to apologize for my post. I didn't mean to get anyone in trouble, and I hope I didn't.

I know how much employers hate seeing their employees studying probability theory when they should be working.
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so im at work, and we were talking about probabilities earlier in the day. i see this thread and read gabes question and pelions response, so i decide to look at this link to see what this was all about. obv. to my surprise, this has nothing to do with probabililty, but more with geriatrics smoking pole. while i found this trickery very funny, my boss, who happened to be walking behind my desk, found it quite offensive.

for the short story, he calls me into his office and tells me to explain myself. so i did. truthfully. he found this very hard to beleive, and quite honestly, i cant blame him. he gives me the preverbial tongue lashing, and i go about my work. then about 5 minutes ago, he calls me in again, and tells me he "doesnt require my services anymore."

So i just want to say, a big FUCK YOU for posting this and getting me fired.

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Old 09-15-2006, 08:36 PM #18 (permalink)  
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trying to figure out if Bode-ist is lying.

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Old 09-15-2006, 08:39 PM #19 (permalink)  
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I think it's a dramatization to prove I point. I get it, and I'll be more careful in the future.
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for the short story, he calls me into his office and tells me to explain myself. so i did. truthfully. he found this very hard to believe, and quite honestly, i cant blame him. he licks his lips with his tongue and winks at me, and i go about my work. then about 5 minutes ago, he calls me in again, and tells me he'd "like me to stay late to provide him with some special...um...services."

So i just want to say, a big THANK YOU for posting this and getting me a raise.
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ok, obviously im not that great of a liar, or story teller for that matter. Lukie, maybe some lessons please.

bad attempt at fucking with you guys. ill try harder next time.

and btw, nice FYP warpe, it made me el oh el
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ok, obviously im not that great of a liar, or story teller for that matter. Lukie, maybe some lessons please.

bad attempt at fucking with you guys. ill try harder next time.

and btw, nice FYP warpe, it made me el oh el
I charge $1,000 an hour for storytelling lessons, dude. However, things are in high demand now so you better get in quick before I have to raise my rates!

By the way, the more relevant question for gabe is this:

How much expectation have you passed up trying to figure all this goofy shit out?
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