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Tiresman
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12-13-2007, 09:13 PM
Post subject: Names in the Mitchell Report
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The Mitchell report came out today with the names of players who allegedly took steroids, human growth hormones, or whatever.
Does anyone care?
If a grown man wants to inject himself in the ass with the same drug that makes my chicken plumper, so that he can throw a baseball 100 mph or hit it 500+ feet, who cares.
Cheating has always been part of baseball. Pitchers would put vaseline on the ball. Doctor it with sandpaper, wipe their brow and put the perspiration on the ball. Players would file their spikes,and intentionally slide feet high trying to spike the defensive player. Batters would cork their bats. It's all part of sports.
MLB knew of its' use. When McGuire and Sosa were both chasing Babe Ruths' single season HR record, the crowds were enormous and it was the savior of baseball. Did MLB care? Hell no, they were finally filling the parks again. Now they want to get holier than thou, twenty years after the fact. Give me a break.
Why is the government involved in this anyhow. MLB has less than 1000 players at a given time. What constitutes the governments spending my tax dollars to probe into something that affects so few, when their are so many greater issues that plague our country.
So the Mitchell report came out, who cares?
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I care a lot, the problem I had is I thought the report was very poorly thought out.
1. Why would you name names? If you want the emphasis to be on the message you have to the MLB, your shooting yourself in the foot to name big names.
2. Some of the players implicated are clearly put on the same pedastol as others because they are "in the report," EVEN THOUGH guys like Brian Roberts have absolutely no proof that they did HGH or steroids. I mean some of the ones I read were ridiculous. Your implicating Brian Roberts because he was simply introduced to someone who sold steroids? So if im friends with a drug dealer does that mean i do drugs? No.
3. I don't think Mitchell's motivations were in the right place, I think he was more into the publicity of the whole thing than actually doing anything. Why did we have a senator lead the investigation anyways? They should've had a supreme court justice or something like that.
Anyways, I was very dissatisfied with it.
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The actual percentage of players that have used (or are using) illegal performance enhancing drugs in baseball is beyond the point of ridiculous. The Mitchell Report only scrapes the surface at best.
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12-14-2007, 01:26 AM
Post subject: Re: Names in the Mitchell Report
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Originally Posted by Tiresman
The Mitchell report came out today with the names of players who allegedly took steroids, human growth hormones, or whatever.
Does anyone care?
If a grown man wants to inject himself in the ass with the same drug that makes my chicken plumper, so that he can throw a baseball 100 mph or hit it 500+ feet, who cares.
Cheating has always been part of baseball. Pitchers would put vaseline on the ball. Doctor it with sandpaper, wipe their brow and put the perspiration on the ball. Players would file their spikes,and intentionally slide feet high trying to spike the defensive player. Batters would cork their bats. It's all part of sports.
MLB knew of its' use. When McGuire and Sosa were both chasing Babe Ruths' single season HR record, the crowds were enormous and it was the savior of baseball. Did MLB care? Hell no, they were finally filling the parks again. Now they want to get holier than thou, twenty years after the fact. Give me a break.
Why is the government involved in this anyhow. MLB has less than 1000 players at a given time. What constitutes the governments spending my tax dollars to probe into something that affects so few, when their are so many greater issues that plague our country.
So the Mitchell report came out, who cares?
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i am sooooooooooooooooo sick of hearing about steroids in baseball
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I'm not happy with any of it.
I'm not happy with the players who used the stuff (though I can understand to a degree, especially the guys who used it to get healthy)
I'm not happy with MLB for looking the other way.
I'm not happy with the report.... tl;dr
I did notice that some of the report seems to be a recap, for example David Bell made it into the report because he was in an article in SI. Nothing new was found. Why list him?
In the end, I think the only real benefit is that parents/coaches can go to kids and say "See, even the biggest stars get busted. Don't do it."
What I want to happen is for the Players Union to get rid of Donald Fehr and replace him with someone who truly wants to get help clean up the game. Then for Bud Selig to die in a horribly painful gardening accident (he is a bastard). I don't care who the next commish is, can't be as bad as him. Then they get together and put a real drug policy, with teeth, into place.
It's also worth pointing out that these are pretty much only the guys who got their stuff from BALCO and the Mets clubhouse guy. I'm sure there are many more players who've gotten the stuff from other sources that Mitchell didn't find.
And one more thing....how fucking stupid do you have to be to buy illegal drugs WITH A GODDAMNED PERSONAL CHECK?!?!?
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3/5 of the players that espn keeps showing are current/former astros...... FUCK!
Not a surprise, I knew that Tejada was going to be on the list when the trade went down, but still, 3 of the 5 current star players with strong stros ties. WTF?
Oh well. Two of them are current Yankees + the for sure abusers Giambi and Sheff(who used while a yank). Tejada just came to town yesterday so we KNOW for a fact that he has never cheated as an Astro.
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Originally Posted by Hawkfan79
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This made me chuckle. Does he garden? If not, even funnier.
And WTF does tl;dr stand for!? I keep seeing it.
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How can you count
it as 409 pages
when you triple space the thing?
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when I was in school.
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Originally Posted by Hawkfan79
horribly painful gardening accident
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This made me chuckle. Does he garden? If not, even funnier.
And WTF does tl;dr stand for!? I keep seeing it.
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He might. I dunno.
tl;dr = too long; didn't read
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The Mitchell Report is a piece of shit. A blind deaf mute third grader could have done a better job imo.
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That could have been an interesting interviewing process.
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