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Why don't we put a church up in Kabul in honor of our fallen soldiers and see how that goes over. I guarantee the Muslims would never allow that to happen, so why should we put a mosque up at ground zero? Think about it America. Everyone is brainwashed by the liberal media into not hurting Anyone's feelings, well what about the feelings of the survivors of 9/11? Don't they deserve to not be hurt as well?
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LOL @ comparing America to Kabul. You may have missed the point of living in this country.
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Yeah, the fact that we're more tolerant than the Taliban is a good thing, not a bad thing. I can't wait until the people trying to stop this get laughed out of the courtroom.
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why don't we put a church up in kabul in honor of our fallen soldiers and see how that goes over. I guarantee the muslims would never allow that to happen, so why should we put a mosque up at ground zero? Think about it america. Everyone is brainwashed by the liberal media into not hurting anyone's feelings, well what about the feelings of the survivors of 9/11? Don't they deserve to not be hurt as well?
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UGH, THIS IS AN IDIOT'S LINE OF
REASOING. ALSO, SlZE 7 BOLD
CAPS MOTHERFUCKER!
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UGH, THIS IS AN IDIOT'S LINE OF
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REASOING!!!! learn to use spell check motherfucker.
really now...is this called for? must you degrade ones thought.
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The N is implied. And yes, it's an idiot's line of reasoning because you're saying "Well we can do A because they would do B." Allowing for your characterization of them to justify your own actions. Down that road lies madness.
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Who gives a shit? And more importantly, why should they? I guess people should avoid building churches in Europe since someone who was a Christian once killed a bunch of people there?
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http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post1945779
Here was from when I first heard this news. I hated the idea that they would build a mosque at ground zero until I found out it was only a small part of the Freedom Tower construction.
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so..what you are saying is you really dont give a shit if they put it up? i mean its going to be right on the same spot they blew the wtc up. i dont think they need it "right there" is what i'm saying. thats just insulting.
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like they are saying ....ha ha we blew the shit outa you and now we are gonna put up our shit right on top of your shit.
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They aren't saying it. They aren't building it. We're saying it. We're building it.
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lame. that we are doing it. lame that we are lame. i can't believe you don't give a shit. lame.
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lame. that we are doing it. lame that we are lame. i can't believe you don't give a shit. lame.
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I'm going to put on an adult hat and talk down to you for a second. Just know, I'm an idiot young man myself.
I can understand how you're angry about it. Muslims destroy our symbols for economic success and we bend over backwards to say, "Alright, guys! Don't you dare hate us anymore. Look we'll build you a mosque - right at Ground Zero." But from what little you've shared of your belief, the reasons for your anger are bunk. It's anger for anger's sake, someone lit your fuse and you're fully ready to blow.
I freely admit I haven't seen the designs, I'm not in the planning meetings but what I understand to be the case is this: The mosque is a small part of what they have planned for ground zero. A little offering to the Muslim community, those non-aggressive American Muslims who have suffered for the deep ire of a wounded America. An administrative admission that America, the melting pot, is fully diverse and is acknowledging it.
If you want to be angry about it, be angry because you know we can do better; be angry because there's a mosque two streets thataway; be angry because you yourself know what is being done is wrong. But don't bring this, "It's like they're just waving their asses in our face and we're asking politely to kiss 'em."-crap.
I was angry at first too until I recognized my anger for what it was, and spoon has the best approach. There's too much BS in the world, this Ground Zero Mosque debate is being coated in just more BS and my best BS-defense is who gives a shit?
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This has to be the dumbest, most ignorant thread ever created.
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Unless they call it Osama Bin Laden Mosque then why is it even relevant to the 9/11 attacks?
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But all the Muslims attacked us. Every single one!
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Don't worry, I bought a 103 inch television to make sure the terrorists didn't win.
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It's actually two blocks from ground zero.
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Opposition to ground zero mosque goes viral - The Globe and Mail
...Ms. Jones, who was taking pictures of the building for her family back in California and wearing a T-shirt displaying the Twin Towers. “I don’t want to sound unbalanced or fanatical,” she said. “Anywhere within a one- or two-mile radius of ground zero is not appropriate.”
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Mosques shouldn't be built anywhere, including NY.
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wtf if I wanted to think people on these forums were retarded as ballsack I would hang out in the BC, leave my commune be please
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Religion didn't do 9/11.
If you want to actually protest the cause, how about you protest wealth inequality. Without that, not only would ME extremism not have reason to fight, but they wouldn't even be able to recruit and brainwash the young boys who strap bombs on themselves
Religion sucks butthole, but its not even remotely close to as evil as economic distribution favoring the special
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Opposition to ground zero mosque goes viral - The Globe and Mail
...Ms. Jones, who was taking pictures of the building for her family back in California and wearing a T-shirt displaying the Twin Towers. “I don’t want to sound unbalanced or fanatical,” she said. “Anywhere within a one- or two-mile radius of ground zero is not appropriate.”
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"Other politically-hypercorrect brainwaves to "bridge the gap and promote understanding":
1. A tribute to fallen Nazis in Israel
2. A monument to Hitler in Trafalgar Square
3. A bronze bust of the Royal Family on every First Nations Reservation
4. A memorial for the British wounded during their occupation of India.
5. A tribute to Marc Lepine at the Ecole Polytechnique
6. A portrait of Nesrallah in the Knesset
7. Ode to Beef Ranchers at the World Vegetarian Congress
8. Reinstating 'Die Stem' as South Africa's national anthem
9. A Ku Klux Klan wax model holding a noose and flag in the foyer at the National Association for the Advancement of Coloured People.
10. Jack Layton's portrait in the offices of the Conservative Party of Canada."
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Originally Posted by triumphant cracker
Why don't we put a church up in Kabul in honor of our fallen soldiers and see how that goes over. I guarantee the Muslims would never allow that to happen, so why should we put a mosque up at ground zero? Think about it America. Everyone is brainwashed by the liberal media into not hurting Anyone's feelings, well what about the feelings of the survivors of 9/11? Don't they deserve to not be hurt as well?
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Where the hell does this kind of ignorance come from? Islam as a whole didn't attack us. A group of radicals that don't even understand their own religion attacked us. It is their intent to destroy our way of life. Freedom of religion is a basis for our way of life and to make exceptions dissolves our freedom and allows our enemies to beat us. The fact that this thread even exists shows that they are indeed winning.
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Nazis died in Israel?
Was it the heat?
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The freedom of religion thing cuts both ways, as well. What I mean is that this Ground Zero Mosque thing is getting all the play not because of the terrorism thing, but because of xtian fundies who think this is one nation under god. The terrorism is merely the facade
If you're whining about about one religion, you're likely falling into the hands of another religion.
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They took our jobs!
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Why don't we put a church up in Kabul in honor of our fallen soldiers and see how that goes over.
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so US soldiers = terrorists? uncool. Now US politicians...
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Wow, this is the one issue that I actually side with the bigots on.
Probably not for the same reasons though.
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I got bored reading your examples of other bullshit, but they all seemed to share the theme of putting up monuments to wrong-doers. There's not a big statue of osama bin laden going up, and the fact that you're tarring every singly muslim with the terrorism brush is so lol
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I guess I should explain myself, so all of the liberals in this thread don't shit on my face all at once.
I hope they are unsuccessful in building their mosque. Not because of anything having to do with 9/11, but because I simply hate religion, and as far as religions go, nothing has served to poison world society at large and set an entire continent's culture back a thousand years like Islam.
It also seems to be in poor taste to me to build this mosque here. Its kinda like when you get on an airplane and and a persian dude is on there wearing a turban, and its like "come on man, I know you have the right to do that and all, but can you just not do that please?" Like, I'm glad that we live in a country where someone can still wear a turban on an airplane without being detained and anally searched, but I still think its pretty tasteless of that individual to do that.
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OP really backs up my theory about needing to pass an exam before being allowed to vote.
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hey guys, if you ever make a snap call on the river when your opponent raises you're fucking retarded.
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So I guess I should say I'll be happy either way this turns out. Either they won't be able to and I'll revel in my hatred of religion, or they will and I'll be glad I live in a free country.
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Hey you don't know he wasn't anally searched!
I agree with your general sentiment but think it's worth it just because it pisses off people like OP. Totally game for canceling all religion and starting a new one based on Haagen Daaz ice cream bars
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Houses of Worship shouldn't be built anywhere, including NY.
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I agree, but I'm willing to tolerate them. There are better battles to be had than disallowing this mosque - like taxing 'em.
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Cracker can't understand that Bin Laden isn't the leader of all Muslims. That terrorists don't act for them all. That there are actual clerics declaring Fatwas against these terrorists and suicide bombers. Suicide bombers 'unIslamic' and going to Hell, says leading cleric -Times Online
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
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I guess I should explain myself, so all of the liberals in this thread don't shit on my face all at once.
I hope they are unsuccessful in building their mosque. Not because of anything having to do with 9/11, but because I simply hate religion, and as far as religions go, nothing has served to poison world society at large and set an entire continent's culture back a thousand years like Islam.
It also seems to be in poor taste to me to build this mosque here. Its kinda like when you get on an airplane and and a persian dude is on there wearing a turban, and its like "come on man, I know you have the right to do that and all, but can you just not do that please?" Like, I'm glad that we live in a country where someone can still wear a turban on an airplane without being detained and anally searched, but I still think its pretty tasteless of that individual to do that.
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lol take off that silly hat
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nothing has served to poison world society at large and set an entire planet's culture back a thousand years like christianity.
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OP really backs up my theory about needing to pass an exam before being allowed to BREED.
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FYP, lol voting
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Meh, I'm as against Christianity as anyone, but it as at least somewhat adapted to modern times, and there are a lot of other positives to it. Its just a generally 'nicer' religion than Islam.
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FYP, lol voting
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Meh, I'm as against Christianity as anyone, but it as at least somewhat adapted to modern times, and there are a lot of other positives to it. Its just a generally 'nicer' religion than Islam.
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Modern times have been adapted to/by Christianity, though.
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Whilst this is true, I find myself thinking that regular ordinary non-suicidal muslims should stand up and very clearly say to the rest of the world
"Hey, these fuck heads don't represent me!!!"
Maybe have a march about it, a petition, I dunno, a fuckin mass fast, whatever, but do something. If they love their religion truly believe their religion is a beautiful thing & doesn't agree with this shit, then defend it. Fucking stand up for it, because right now a lot of people associate Islam with terrorism, and if something I loved and believed in was being associated with something horrible & ugly, I'd want to put a stop to that.
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Whilst this is true, I find myself thinking that regular ordinary non-suicidal muslims should stand up and very clearly say to the rest of the world
"Hey, these fuck heads don't represent me!!!"
Maybe have a march about it, a petition, I dunno, a fuckin mass fast, whatever, but do something. If they love their religion truly believe their religion is a beautiful thing & doesn't agree with this shit, then defend it. Fucking stand up for it, because right now a lot of people associate Islam with terrorism, and if something I loved and believed in was being associated with something horrible & ugly, I'd want to put a stop to that.
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You're kind of expecting the world from normal people. If we could be moved to so easily act, you'd see great populations acting in unison more frequently than just populace protests in France and Greece.
I suspect they'll all do what they always do, look to their religious leaders and wait to be told that they must act against other Muslims. An unlikely happening in a world where they see Westerners killing innocent, peaceful Muslim families in the name of oil or evil, take their pick.
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Meh, I'm as against Christianity as anyone, but it as at least somewhat adapted to modern times, and there are a lot of other positives to it. Its just a generally 'nicer' religion than Islam.
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True. They are nicer. Take these guys for example: Westboro Baptist Church Home Page
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burn in hell boog
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
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I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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lol, at least homosexuality isn't a felony here as it is in most middle eastern countries
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Also, the christian wackos don't carry out suicide attacks like the islamic wackos.
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Isn't the KKK a christian organization in as much as the terrorists are muslims.
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Meh, I'm as against Christianity as anyone, but it as at least somewhat adapted to modern times, and there are a lot of other positives to it. Its just a generally 'nicer' religion than Islam.
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Crusades? spanish inquisition?
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