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Old 01-05-2006, 04:03 PM     Post subject: Microwave strategy #1 (permalink)  
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This microwave lunch said "Microwave for 3-4.5 minutes" and I usually go for the halfway mark but somehow pressing 3:45 would seem wrong so I went with 4:00. Standard?
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:19 PM #2 (permalink)  
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For optimal physical efficiency, I usually just hit the same number until it's about the desired time. In your example, I would've entered 3:33.
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:19 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Well Pizza pockets say

1:30 on one side

and :30 on the other

I like to do this

1:15

then flip 30, then flip for a final 15.

Speaking of Pizza pockets....
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:36 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Well Pizza pockets say

1:30 on one side

and :30 on the other

I like to do this

1:15

then flip 30, then flip for a final 15.

Speaking of Pizza pockets....
You've possibly made a tactical error. Here... For any value below 1 minute and 39 seconds, you can enter a two digit equivalent. Instead of entering 1:30, you can enter :90. And since the point of a microwave is efficiency (and blowing stuff up), wasted keystrokes are inefficient.

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Old 01-05-2006, 04:42 PM #5 (permalink)  
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What is the standard deviation for multiple pizza pockets at the same time?
It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
 
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:49 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Well Pizza pockets say

1:30 on one side

and :30 on the other

I like to do this

1:15

then flip 30, then flip for a final 15.

Speaking of Pizza pockets....
You've possibly made a tactical error. Here... For any value below 1 minute and 39 seconds, you can enter a two digit equivalent. Instead of entering 1:30, you can enter :90. And since the point of a microwave is efficiency (and blowing stuff up), wasted keystrokes are inefficient.

Do you see why?
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Old 01-05-2006, 04:51 PM #7 (permalink)  
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You don't give a read on the MW so that makes things tough. If I thought it was weak, I'd raise here. Your way's okay, but I kind of like Muxy's way of playing it 'cause you can always check on the turn.
 
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For optimal physical efficiency, I usually just hit the same number until it's about the desired time. In your example, I would've entered 3:33.
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Old 01-05-2006, 05:05 PM #9 (permalink)  
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For optimal physical efficiency, I usually just hit the same number until it's about the desired time. In your example, I would've entered 3:33.
this has been my line for years.
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Old 01-05-2006, 05:08 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Personally I go for the lowest. You can always pop it back in for a few minutes, but you can never uncook it.
Field mice are fast, but owls can see in the dark.
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Old 01-05-2006, 05:21 PM #11 (permalink)  
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With all due respect gnomes that is very -ev.
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Old 01-05-2006, 05:32 PM #12 (permalink)  
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I always go highest. My microwave is really old and I like my food Hot hot hot. +EV
 
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Old 01-05-2006, 05:36 PM #13 (permalink)  
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With all due respect gnomes that is very -ev.
Not really, its common sense. You can always add more minutes but you can never uncook something. If you can uncook something, then let me know and I will start to use the highest minute.
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Old 01-05-2006, 05:49 PM #14 (permalink)  
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just think about all the wasted effort gnomes
im with xianti, optimal efficiency
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The answer here is obvious: "It depends."

What's your read on the microwave? How has it been acting the last few (hundred) times you've put things in it?

With no read I say you go with the "under." Like gnomes said, you can always stick it back in but you can't uncook something.


 
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Old 01-05-2006, 05:58 PM #16 (permalink)  
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With all due respect gnomes that is very -ev.
Not really, its common sense. You can always add more minutes but you can never uncook something. If you can uncook something, then let me know and I will start to use the highest minute.
but on average you might take more time this way because you have to take it out and test it
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Old 01-05-2006, 06:10 PM #17 (permalink)  
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I always go highest. My microwave is really old and I like my food Hot hot hot. +EV
As long as you don't exceed the recommendations on the package, then the pot odds are in your favour. I'm with Bob. Put the hammer down - unless it's vegetables.
 
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Old 01-05-2006, 06:25 PM #18 (permalink)  
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Old 01-05-2006, 06:30 PM #19 (permalink)  
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Just because its neutral EV doesnt mean you should take take the bet.
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Old 01-05-2006, 06:39 PM #20 (permalink)  
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wow using EV in a non poker sense is being way over used.
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With all due respect gnomes that is very -ev.
Not really, its common sense. You can always add more minutes but you can never uncook something. If you can uncook something, then let me know and I will start to use the highest minute.
Weak tight. You keep checking to see if your pizza pockets are good. I know you're afraid to put too much in. My plan is to push you out a lot, so I can eat some time this century. If you're going to make a move, then make it like a man.
It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
 
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Centry = an extra 10 seconds.

yea...

What about the times that you ruin the food by overcooking it. Then you have to waste food and the time it takes to re-cook a new unit.
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Old 01-05-2006, 07:00 PM #23 (permalink)  
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What about the times that you ruin the food by overcooking it. Then you have to waste food and the time it takes to re-cook a new unit.
It doesn't happen often enough to worry about. Just go strong every time. Once in while you'll get burnt, but it's just the right move against a frozen opponent.
It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
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I have handy little preset buttons on microwave. Its kind of like using poker-edge. Ive been very sick the last few days so I really have nothing better to do than take drugs and have insane conversations on FTR
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wow using EV in a non poker sense is being way over used.
Sometimes in everyday conversations with people I'll find myself wanting to say that something is -/+EV because it just seems like the most accurate way to describe something lol. I haven't actually said it yet, but every time I consider it, I think to myself, "What the hell happened to me."



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I just cook things however long I think they need to be cooked. If it's undercooked, I'll throw it back in for however long it needs, and if it's overcooked, I'll let it cool for a few minutes. Minimal effort, minimal thinking.
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What is the standard deviation for multiple pizza pockets at the same time?
Microwave time increases as a function of the square root of the number of microwaved items.

Optimal time = Time for 1 pizza pocket*(sqrt#pizza pockets)


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For optimal physical efficiency, I usually just hit the same number until it's about the desired time. In your example, I would've entered 3:33.
My god. You have just changed my life.
Don't take it too far, though. If I put all of my ingenious optimal physical efficiency ideas into practice, I would never leave the prone position in my bed.
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Awesome.
I thought I was the only one, Xanti.
But when I got my new Microwave, I learned I could hit "Pizza/Pizza" for 3min 30 sec autostart, reducing my keystrokes by half.
I'm a know-it-all.




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Personally I go for the lowest. You can always pop it back in for a few minutes, but you can never uncook it.
The correct answer is to select the highest preset that is greater than or equal to the maximum recommended cooking time and then stop and check once the minimum time has elapsed. If your food is not done, you can simply close the door again and push start.

This procedure cannot be used while multitabling.

Anything that takes longer to cook than the highest of your microwave presets (mine goes up to 6 minutes) either isn't worth eating or is a job for the wife/girlfriend.

I am running at 3 BB / 100 using this strategy.
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Weak tight. You keep checking to see if your pizza pockets are good. I know you're afraid to put too much in.
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For optimal physical efficiency, I usually just hit the same number until it's about the desired time. In your example, I would've entered 3:33.
My god. You have just changed my life.
Don't take it too far, though. If I put all of my ingenious optimal physical efficiency ideas into practice, I would never leave the prone position in my bed.
Why would you want to leave the bed when you can reach the microwave with that long pointed stick you use for opening the curtains and changing the channel on the tv?
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Anything that takes longer to cook than the highest of your microwave presets (mine goes up to 6 minutes) ... is a job for the wife/girlfriend.
I disagree.



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Anything that takes longer to cook than the highest of your microwave presets (mine goes up to 6 minutes) ... is a job for the wife/girlfriend.
I disagree.
guys can make fun of women for having to do girly jobs, and women are always like 'yea right i dont have to be subjected to that' but it seems to hold true anyway.
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Anything that takes longer to cook than the highest of your microwave presets (mine goes up to 6 minutes) ... is a job for the wife/girlfriend.
I disagree.
guys can make fun of women for having to do girly jobs, and women are always like 'yea right i dont have to be subjected to that' but it seems to hold true anyway.
The guy unlucky enough to end up marrying me (if I get married) will do exactly half (or more if he wants) of every household chore that women have ever traditionally been expected to do. There is no way I would ever play the stereotypical female who does all the "female" work around the house because I know I'm way better than that.



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Anything that takes longer to cook than the highest of your microwave presets (mine goes up to 6 minutes) ... is a job for the wife/girlfriend.
I disagree.
guys can make fun of women for having to do girly jobs, and women are always like 'yea right i dont have to be subjected to that' but it seems to hold true anyway.
The guy unlucky enough to end up marrying me (if I get married) will do exactly half (or more if he wants) of every household chore that women have ever traditionally been expected to do. There is no way I would ever play the stereotypical female who does all the "female" work around the house because I know I'm way better than that.
Is it really a fight for woman kind when you make the man do half of everything? If it's just between you and him, does it really matter who does what? Or how much is done by whom? I'm just wondering if it's even something worth fighting over. Sterotypes are something for society to worry about and fight over, but in your home I don't think it matters.

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Nah, I don't give a damn about any other woman, it's just for me personally. I don't mean to say that he HAS to do a little bit of everything, I just want someone to respect me and not expect me to do most of the shit around the house. I mean, if he loves doing laundry, then damn, he can do all the laundry, and I guess I can wash all the dishes. He can mow the lawn too, god I hate mowing lawns.



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wow using EV in a non poker sense is being way over used.
Sometimes in everyday conversations with people I'll find myself wanting to say that something is -/+EV because it just seems like the most accurate way to describe something lol. I haven't actually said it yet, but every time I consider it, I think to myself, "What the hell happened to me."
I once found myself explaining poker to someone because I wanted to use the +/- ev phrase. Then I realized I was no better then people who use "lol" in non-online conversing. I felt an urge to commit suicide at this realization.

I also am very often temped to end a strong point in an arguemen with "...kthxgg" but I stick with "check 'n mate". I have found that chess is a reference that is going to be picked up by the average joe more often then l337 sp34k. However I do use "good game" on occasion, because at the end of AYSO games or little league games everyone said this, so its something that the general populace can comprehend.
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For optimal physical efficiency, I usually just hit the same number until it's about the desired time. In your example, I would've entered 3:33.
My god. You have just changed my life.
Don't take it too far, though. If I put all of my ingenious optimal physical efficiency ideas into practice, I would never leave the prone position in my bed.
I, as you and some others already know, never do leave the prone position in my bed. Except when the temperature in my place of sleep reaches a -comforbility level. At this time I, on occasion, take on the 'fetal' position to conserve the much needed warmth that my body wastes.
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Anything that takes longer to cook than the highest of your microwave presets (mine goes up to 6 minutes) ... is a job for the wife/girlfriend.
I disagree.
guys can make fun of women for having to do girly jobs, and women are always like 'yea right i dont have to be subjected to that' but it seems to hold true anyway.
The guy unlucky enough to end up marrying me (if I get married) will do exactly half (or more if he wants) of every household chore that women have ever traditionally been expected to do. There is no way I would ever play the stereotypical female who does all the "female" work around the house because I know I'm way better than that.
Is it really a fight for woman kind when you make the man do half of everything? If it's just between you and him, does it really matter who does what? Or how much is done by whom? I'm just wondering if it's even something worth fighting over. Sterotypes are something for society to worry about and fight over, but in your home I don't think it matters.
Indeed, do you see me boycotting chicken and watermellon, or worse yet 40oz's themselves. NO! I am all for racial equality, but I love me some grits and lottery tickets.
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Nah, I don't give a damn about any other woman, it's just for me personally. I don't mean to say that he HAS to do a little bit of everything, I just want someone to respect me and not expect me to do most of the shit around the house. I mean, if he loves doing laundry, then damn, he can do all the laundry, and I guess I can wash all the dishes. He can mow the lawn too, god I hate mowing lawns.
Thats good shit. My girlfreind can get into that retarded feminist mindest sometimes. But sometimes you just gotta let shit happen. Shes a neat freak, she enjoys cleaning stuff up and making shit all neat, I dont. However I love to cook, so it all evens out. I think if both the man and woman are bringing in an income, then they just need to work some shit out. I think the problem is that most women have devloped a stigma towards doing house hold chores. They aquired this distaste because of dyke ass feminist. There is a time and place for everything, but just because you wash the dishes all the time doesnt mean that Im a shauvanist(sp?) pig. Hell I open doors for you, buy you movie tickets, and a shit load of other things that you expect from me, so dont get mad when I expect you to do a couple of 'chores'. Yah feel me?
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Anything that takes longer to cook than the highest of your microwave presets (mine goes up to 6 minutes) ... is a job for the wife/girlfriend.
I disagree.
It's not a sexist remark. Feel free to substitute husband/boyfriend.

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Indeed, do you see me boycotting chicken and watermellon, or worse yet 40oz's themselves. NO! I am all for racial equality, but I love me some grits and lottery tickets.
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My girlfriend is traditional old school Italian. She cleans the house, and I have to fix broken stuff. I also pay for dinner when we go out. We take turns cooking when we stay home, but that's because I don't like spaguetti every night. It is true. Italians cook pasta too much. I tried explaining to her that we need some variety, and she gave me a choice of Rigatoni, Spinguili, or Vermicelli.
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I tried explaining to her that we need some variety, and she gave me a choice of Rigatoni, Spinguili, or Vermicelli.


My wife likes pasta that much, too. Her favorite restaurant is this little Italian joint that serves spaghetti GOP (garlic, olive oil, and parsley) as a side for everything, including the pasta dishes!

Fortunately, I do the cooking at home, so we only have pasta occasionally.
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