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zook
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06-11-2008, 05:23 PM
Post subject: McCain vs. Obama on Taxes
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Obama's tax bill seems extremely unfair for people with incomes over 2.9 mil.... but hell, doesn't affect me!
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zook
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
Obama's tax bill seems extremely unfair for people with incomes over 2.9 mil.... but hell, doesn't affect me!
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Don't worry, Bush has given them millions the past 8 years, they can afford it 
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Oh noez! The evil socialist is stealing money from the rich and giving it to the poor! It might as well be communist china!
How will the rich ever afford to spend enough so that there's enough trickle down for the plebs? We're doomed!
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Talking about tax cuts without talking about where to cut spending is fairly irrelevant. Government will just be paid through inflation instead.
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zook
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Originally Posted by 2_Thumbs_Up
Talking about tax cuts without talking about where to cut spending is fairly irrelevant.
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roffle, but this is America!
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What's that supposed to mean?
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zook
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Originally Posted by 2_Thumbs_Up
What's that supposed to mean?
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That politicians here never do that. They promise to cut taxes and then keep spending the same or increase it. We had a few years of balanced budget requirements ("pay-as-you-go") under Clinton and the Republican Congress, but all the huge budgets passed under Bush have been labeled "emergency" spending and weren't subject to those rules.
Expecting politicians here to talk about the tough decisions that must accompany tax cuts is laughable.
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d0zer
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Originally Posted by zook
Expecting politicians here to talk about the tough decisions that must accompany tax cuts is laughable.
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That would be political suicide!
The 24hr news networks would tear em' a new one 
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Originally Posted by 2_Thumbs_Up
What's that supposed to mean?
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That politicians here never do that. They promise to cut taxes and then keep spending the same or increase it. We had a few years of balanced budget requirements ("pay-as-you-go") under Clinton and the Republican Congress, but all the huge budgets passed under Bush have been labeled "emergency" spending and weren't subject to those rules.
Expecting politicians here to talk about the tough decisions that must accompany tax cuts is laughable. |
I doubt that it's a problem isolated to the US. It's a problem with politics in all contries. A politicians main goal is to get elected, and talking about the uncomfortable parts of his policies won't help him with that.
The fact that mccain even talks about tax cuts while he wants to continue the war in Iraq is utter insanity.
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Tax everybody at an equal rate for anything exceeding the poverty line + a small allowance for increased standard of living in the US, close loopholes, problem solved. Well except for the part about spending less than you generate in revenue.
As others have said the US govt. much like Rome is not encouraged to do the right thing for our children, just the popular thing for the next 2-6 years to keep an office. Why do you think elected officials spend more on polling than they earn in salary?
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"Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenagers." - P.J. O'Rourke
i really like this quote.
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bode
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flat tax ftw?
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I think it is more important to note that Obama would be much better for online poker than McCain would be by a long shot.
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This gives you an idea http://theengineer.pokerplayersallia...-poker-rights/
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George Bush has spent more Money than all the previous Presidents combined!! Wheres Ross Perot speaking about the Deficit.
I dont know how Barrack, or McCain will get us out of this mess. They need to cut spending, which will never happen. Close the Borders to Illegal Immagrants, which will never happen.Stop giving Social Security to people who dont pay into it.
O man I could go on forever here.....
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3 3 3 I'm only half evil.
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Originally Posted by mrhappy333
George Bush has spent more Money than all the previous Presidents combined!! Wheres Ross Perot speaking about the Deficit.
I dont know how Barrack, or McCain will get us out of this mess. They need to cut spending, which will never happen. Close the Borders to Illegal Immagrants, which will never happen.Stop giving Social Security to people who dont pay into it.
O man I could go on forever here.....
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The thing is, i doubt the democrats would have done anything really different if they were the one's in charge during 9/11 and afterwards. Traditionally, it's the democrats who have been very keen to start wars and the Republicans who has wanted to end them. It just happens to be a very easy point to criticize the current administration on.
People need to stop looking at this as a party problem and realize that it's the current system that's the problem.
By the way, I think it's already too late to get out of this mess, regardless of what policies are adopted.
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bode
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
I think it is more important to note that Obama would be much better for online poker than McCain would be by a long shot.
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really who gives a fuck about this. i know this is a poker forum and we should care about this, and i guess i do in the back of my mind, but thats exactly where it is. its not like either candidate is going to get into office and try to shut down internet poker as a main priority.
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Originally Posted by bode
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
I think it is more important to note that Obama would be much better for online poker than McCain would be by a long shot.
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really who gives a fuck about this. |
People who make a lucrative living from online poker!
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Phantaroth
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Boo @ flat tax.
I understand that logically different tax rates aren't fair, but in order to institute important government programs it is necessary.
Flat tax + balanced budget would be fine. But since we aren't going to have a balanced budget, we need more money in the government...
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bode
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
I think it is more important to note that Obama would be much better for online poker than McCain would be by a long shot.
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really who gives a fuck about this. |
People who make a lucrative living from online poker! |
definitly understand there will concern for the issue is def. tied to how much money you are making at teh pokah, but there are still far more important issues and i dont really see either candidate as the type that would make shutting down internet gambling a priority. now the house and sentate, ...
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McCain's tax proposals could increase the national debt by as much as $4.5 trillion with interest, while Obama's could add as much as $3.3 trillion.
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This really isn't a good sign for politics, democracy or humanity in general.
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Bode, I don't think either candidate would shut down online poker. I'm talking about making it easier for people in the U.S. to deposit. Any step in the positive is more likely to be taken by Obama.
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Bode, I don't think either candidate would shut down online poker. I'm talking about making it easier for people in the U.S. to deposit. Any step in the positive is more likely to be taken by Obama.
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No the only positive step will be taken by congress. I don't see why people think the president has anything to do with this.
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<Staxalax> I want everyone to put my quote in their sigs
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bode
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Bode, I don't think either candidate would shut down online poker. I'm talking about making it easier for people in the U.S. to deposit. Any step in the positive is more likely to be taken by Obama.
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i agree with this completely
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No the only positive step will be taken by congress. I don't see why people think the president has anything to do with this.
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i agree with this even completelier
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Bode, I don't think either candidate would shut down online poker. I'm talking about making it easier for people in the U.S. to deposit. Any step in the positive is more likely to be taken by Obama.
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No the only positive step will be taken by congress. I don't see why people think the president has anything to do with this. |
Attorney General, Supreme Court justices, other appointed officials have a bit to do with it but yes congress is a huge factor.
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