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WildBobAA
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04-14-2007, 07:17 PM
Post subject: lol My housemate is getting crushed right now on 2p2
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Here's the cliffnotes of what happened: we were playing 200NL last night he was involved in a $1350 pot (AA vs KK vs QQ 3 biggest stacks at table), he makes a deal with them, giving up 5% of his equity, he posts it on 2p2 and now he is getting destroyed. Come laugh at him
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Ravageur
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Wow, that boggles my mind but maybe it shouldn't.
But seriously, why is he even thinking about deal making in a cash game against fish when he gets it in with the best hand? Isn't that the whole point of playing that juicy game? - to get it in good and take all their money? I don't get why he's giving them their money back when he has it in about as good as he is ever going to get it in.
Wow...k now im speechless. Why the hell is he thinking about equity? It's a live game, it's not like you're going to see another 400 hands against these fish and have tons of other spots where you have them hand over hand.
K guess im not speechless.
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Family Cruise IMO
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I actually don't understand why everyone flaming. He makes a good point, when you are playing out of your bankroll, it is ok to sacrifice some EV for lower varience. His decision to do that wasn't horrible.
Think about it this way (this might not be the best example). You're one who wants to be a millionaire. You have 125k going for 250k, you've used your 50/50 so it's narrowed down to 2 questions. You are 60% sure what the answer is, do you guess that since it's +EV? No, you take the 125k because you'll never get this chance again and because 125k is wayyy more than the money in your bank account.
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Ravageur
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Oh, I didn't realize he was playing out of his bankroll.
That does change things...say sry to ur friend for me 
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Ravageur
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More importantly, did his hand hold up or is he a genius in disguise?
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Family Cruise IMO
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WildBobAA
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It held up, turn was the 7s though giving KK more outs. If he made the same deal on the turn he would have gained some equity.
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IowaSkinsFan
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That's the easiest chop in the world with his money, people on 2p2 are retarded.
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.77 * 1351 = 1040
1351 - 240 - 139 = 972
1040 - 972 = 68
So he only lost 68$ of equity.
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2p2 officially flamed by me.
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Nice post over there ISF.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
Nice post over there ISF.
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ty, im trying to build their egos even more so i can profit 
lol.
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WildBobAA
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Yes, my friend was happy to see some support
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Was he waiting to see some support all day?
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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IowaSkinsFan
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Tell your housemate to post on FTR.
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
Nice post over there ISF.
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ty, im trying to build their egos even more so i can profit
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I like posting hands on occassion that I know they'll butcher so I can silently laugh at them.
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Is there anything to the "all day" joke besides the obvious?
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LOL OPERATIONS
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
Tell your housemate to post on FTR.
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Agreed. I am coming back to FTR. Only the news/gossip is good at 2p2 anyway.
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bigred
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DUDE WHY DID U TAKE THAT DEAL UR SO DUMB OMG NUB WTF.
Hi, welcome back.
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LOL OPERATIONS
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lol pussoutaments
nh
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Didn't read the whole 2p2 thread. If you don't have any more cash with you and cant borrow it's okay I guess.
One more thing to factor in is the added value of one of the others having a big stack when they suck out. They'll have a chance to suck more money out of someone else, money which will ultimately find its way into my pocket.
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the whole "all day" thing is super gay dude.
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eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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2p2 people are only considering chip EV and not utility EV. The fact is that for most people who win 6 buyins, the first 3 will mean the more than the second 3.
Most poker players will say that in a cash game, just as in life every chip is worth the same amount, whereas in a tournament every chip you earn is worth a little less than the one before.
Thats pretty obvious bollocks if you ask me. Rich people throw money around all over the place on all sorts of crap. Poor people are far more careful with money. $20 means alot more to some guy living on the streets than it means to say... Bill Gates.
You also have to consider factors like being able to move up in stakes for a higher hourly earn if you win 77% or if you win %72 but not if you win 0%.
Last of all its theoretically possible to sit in a 2NL game for a couple of days and build up your $50 roll to $1000. People saying theyd be happy to meet another big stack and get allin for with a 60/40 edge because poker is all about +EV are either lying or stupid.
Win it and you can move to 100NL (if you're good enough). Lose it and you go back to 2NL. Make some sort of deal and youre at 50NL on your way to 100NL. The deal is clearly the way to go.
Its obviously much better to just run it a few times rather than give up EV but the deal isnt terrible.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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WHO YA GONNA CALL?!??
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Originally Posted by Pelion
$20 means alot more to some guy living on the streets than it means to say... Bill Gates.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
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Is all day a Michigan thing???
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lynch pelion
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you told me you loved me
also you didnt put it in BOLD
F'n noob
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Ive heard all day around here a few times too, and even at a casino. I think its a pretty gay term as well.
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