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AHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Wow...this championship game is going to be soooooooo f*ed up!!!!
and there are going to be SOOOOOOOOOOOO many pissed of schools. WOW. 
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yeah OSU gets in by default but who are they going to play? WTF
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A playoff would be good right about now.
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Screw a playoff, all the upsets this season wouldn't have been nearly as awesome if there was one.
Probably should be LSU vs OSU as annoying as that is.
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im tired of the arguments of LSU, they're getting by on their reps alone
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lol every year its the same thing
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OSU vs...? georgia? lsu? VT (id like to see them get it), OU?
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I wish they at least mention VT as possibility for the title game. But that big loss early hurt our cred.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
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LSU has about as much reason to be in the champ game as Hawaii.
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I wish they at least mention VT as possibility for the title game. But that big loss early hurt our cred.
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yeah, but theyve changed QB's since that blowout loss havent they? i would like to see them vs OSU
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vt is definitely a contender for the title game. they won the ACC. as much as i know georgia would beat the hell out of ohio state, we won't go because we didn't win the SEC. look for OSU and VT. or as much as it pains me, OSU and kansas...in which case i'll just watch the sugar bowl. LSU won't go because they lost too late in the season.
i still think my dawgs are the second best in the country. oh and USC is the best. these two should be playing the championship regardless.
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USC is not the best. i think Oregon would be if Dixon didnt get hurt. i think OSU is the best ive actually thought that for awhile. i was hoping to see OSU kill WVU but now that they lost i think VT deserves to get it.
oh and which SEC team does Wisconsin get to beat this year?
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im tired of the arguments of LSU, they're getting by on their reps alone
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dude, if they didnt have key players injured all season they would be in it right now.
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no they wouldnt. other teams have had injuries too. look at oregon with dixon they would probably be taking one of the spots right now if he doesnt get hurt. lsu should have lost more games this season than they did.
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im tired of the arguments of LSU, they're getting by on their reps alone
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Nah they're getting by because everyone else (except for Ohio State) choked as bad if not worse than they did. Who do you think should be in the game and please don't say Hawaii.
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im tired of the arguments of LSU, they're getting by on their reps alone
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Nah they're getting by because everyone else (except for Ohio State) choked as bad if not worse than they did. Who do you think should be in the game and please don't say Hawaii. |
lets be honest, does any team this year deserve to be in the BCS team. I would like to see Mizzou just cause they are a nobody. And Ohio State choked like a mother fucker to Illinois let's not forget. I can't think of a single team (ill let go of my LSU bias) that hands down has earned it. If someone can think of one im overlooking please inform me.
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Nah they're getting by because everyone else (except for Ohio State) choked as bad if not worse than they did. Who do you think should be in the game and please don't say Hawaii. |
lets be honest, does any team this year deserve to be in the BCS team. I would like to see Mizzou just cause they are a nobody. And Ohio State choked like a mother fucker to Illinois let's not forget. I can't think of a single team (ill let go of my LSU bias) that hands down has earned it. If someone can think of one im overlooking please inform me. |
Exactly, and because of this, we should just revert completely back to the pre-season rankings and have the champ game be USC v. LSU. That would make me happy.
In any case, if we were to have the top 8 (BCS) teams this year have a play off. Who would win?
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I think it's pretty fucked up that Missouri with two losses isn't likely to be represented in the BCS games, and Kansas most likely is... that's screwed up.
As far as the championship game... there are many teams that could be put in there... I don't think anyone really "deserves" it... except Hawaii... who I think would get absolutely crushed by ANYONE they played.
LSU is the best team... their two losses game both came in triple OT. And if Glenn Dorsey would not have been cut block in the Auburn game... They'd be #1.. imo.
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Didn't they install a rule after 2001, that you must win your conference championship to play in the National Title Game?... there sure was a lot of talk about it after Colorado rolled NU in the last game of the season, won the Big 12, then due to bizarre loses, NU got to the championship game. Anyone remember this?
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I wish they at least mention VT as possibility for the title game. But that big loss early hurt our cred.
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yeah, but theyve changed QB's since that blowout loss havent they? i would like to see them vs OSU |
Our offensive line was terrible in the LSU game. Since then we got some injured guys back and returned all of the players to their natural positions and our offense has looked good. And even allowing like 600 yrds and 40 points against LSU our defense is top 5 (prior to the ACC game).
imo, let Georgia play. It's been such an eff-ed up year and those guys are fun to watch.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
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Didn't they install a rule after 2001, that you must win your conference championship to play in the National Title Game?... there sure was a lot of talk about it after Colorado rolled NU in the last game of the season, won the Big 12, then due to bizarre loses, NU got to the championship game. Anyone remember this?
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No, you don't have to win your conference to play in the title game. Remember last year when OSU was in the title game and there was all that controversy between Michigan and Florida? Well obviously Michigan didn't win the Big Ten.
Sadly, it's going to be LSU vs OSU. The voters aren't going to put Georgia or Kansas in because they didn't win their own conferences (neither even won their own division within their conference). VT isn't going to go because the voters aren't going to put them ahead of LSU because of their loss to LSU even though it was early in the season.
It really comes down to LSU vs OU vs USC and I think LSU is going to go just based on them winning the best conference in the country. If you look at their schedule, it's just ridiculous.
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Here's my 2 cents, since I'm a big OSU fan. Bring on anyone from the SEC. If OSU gets beat by an SEC team, so be it. It will finally prove that SEC is better than the Big Ten. If OSU wins, then this will quiet all the people who think that OSU sucks and the SEC is a monster.
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umm florida beat OSU last year. beat the hell out of them. and the SEC IS a monster. just compare schedules. 2 loss in the SEC is equivalent to any other team in the country going undefeated. big 10 has two teams: ohio state and michigan. sec has 12 good teams. i'm so sick of overrated ohio state. hawaii gets shafted based on strength of schedule. why does ohio state get so much respect?
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It will finally prove that SEC is better than the Big Ten.
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Uhm, everyone has already known this for like the past 5 years.
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Hawaii vs. somebody
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im tired of the arguments of LSU, they're getting by on their reps alone
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Nah they're getting by because everyone else (except for Ohio State) choked as bad if not worse than they did. Who do you think should be in the game and please don't say Hawaii. |
funny you ask, E_Lee and I had a heated debate last night.
I settled on Oklahoma and either Georgia/LSU. I am really impressed by OU's physical defense and overall team speed. PLUS they have the highest rated passer in the nation and a great running back core. Add Bob Stoops into the mix and I think they are a very solid football team. They blew a huge lead at Colorado then they lost to Texas Tech without their QB. They rebounded and toasted a very good Missouri team last night (at least offensively).
I don't like LSU for the main fact that they do get by on their rep and supposed "talent". That's great, but they struggled to beat some mediocre football teams including what I feel is a very overrated Arkansas at home in a "must-win" game.
I can't let OSU in cuz they lost to Illinois at home. I cant let WVU in cuz they lost to Pitt (lol really?) at home. Kansas still never beat anyone too impressive nor has Hawaii. I like UGA and VT but they'd be backdoor teams as well, only getting in cuz they lost earlier in the year rather than later.
just my 2 cents
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Illinois is not a bad team. Spread offenses are OSU's worst nightmare. Take a look at Florida vs. OSU in the big dance. That's why I would like to see another SEC vs. Big Ten match-up. For now, all of this talk that SEC is awesome and the Big Ten is weak is just that, talk. There was a lot more that went down last year in OSU's debacle against Florida. Long lay off, the players were partying, etc. Florida is good, but I don't think that Florida got a fair match-up and a true test from OSU. I know, excuses, excuses. Can't a brotha have his dream and second chance?
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OSU gets blown the $^%@ up by team-speed.
Why do we need to prove it to ourselves again and again? Let someone else have a chance.
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i love all the people saying that all these 2 loss teams should get in the title game ahead of OSU because they have man crushes on the SEC (I guess you could throw USC in there as well).
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OSU gets blown the $^%@ up by team-speed.
Why do we need to prove it to ourselves again and again? Let someone else have a chance.
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yeah, it's so unfair, OSU wins too many games and gets into bowls they deserve to play in. It's unfair, give someone else a chance!!!
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OSU gets blown the $^%@ up by team-speed.
Why do we need to prove it to ourselves again and again? Let someone else have a chance.
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yeah, it's so unfair, OSU wins too many games and gets into bowls they deserve to play in. It's unfair, give someone else a chance!!! |
Yea so unfair having to watch your team get blown the fuck out by LSU/OU instead of getting to see a good game against two teams who actually beat someone throughout the year.
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For now, all of this talk that SEC is awesome and the Big Ten is weak is just that, talk.
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You seem to be judging both conferences by their best team. If you match up the best team from each conference, the second best teams from each conference, etc, the Big Ten might go 0-11.
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lol you have the same man crush for OSU! and for the record i loathe USC. but they are definitely championship game worthy. i ultimately want to watch a really good game, preferably between the two BEST teams in the country. and the way i see it, OSU hasn't earned it any more than hawaii or boise state has. ohio state will not deliver. simple as that. which sucks because they are going regardless. and they will get owned yet again by whomever they play.
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For now, all of this talk that SEC is awesome and the Big Ten is weak is just that, talk.
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You seem to be judging both conferences by their best team. If you match up the best team from each conference, the second best teams from each conference, etc, the Big Ten might go 0-11. |
Since we are using last years results for this argument, take a look at the Big Ten vs. SEC results in last year's bowl games.
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ok..
#7 wisconsin wins by a field goal over #14 arkansas...seems standard enough..
#24 penn state against #25 tennessee wins by ten. ok but i would have rooted for penn state since i hate tennessee.
and then the championship game which we know what happened.
even though big ten won the series, it looks pretty standard...all except the ohio state game. one more time: OVERRATED!
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umm florida beat OSU last year. beat the hell out of them. and the SEC IS a monster. just compare schedules. 2 loss in the SEC is equivalent to any other team in the country going undefeated. big 10 has two teams: ohio state and michigan. sec has 12 good teams. i'm so sick of overrated ohio state. hawaii gets shafted based on strength of schedule. why does ohio state get so much respect?
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Thats one game. 2 losses in the SEC is NOT the same as another team going undefeated lol. the big ten has mich, osu, wisconsin (beat 2 sec teams in a row in bowls that were suppose to have sooo much more speed lol), penn state, purdue some years, iowa some years, illinois has been very good this year.
SEC is the best conference buts its not by that huge of a margin.
why does OSU get so much respect?? lol not because they are always ranked really high and playing in BCS bowls winings national championsihps and shit lots of NFL players no big deal i mean theyre not an SEC schools so they have to suck.
the SEC has a lot of good football programs but there are a lot of schools from other conferences that have better programs than any SEC school.
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For now, all of this talk that SEC is awesome and the Big Ten is weak is just that, talk.
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You seem to be judging both conferences by their best team. If you match up the best team from each conference, the second best teams from each conference, etc, the Big Ten might go 0-11. |
Since we are using last years results for this argument, take a look at the Big Ten vs. SEC results in last year's bowl games. |
I'm talking about this season. Let's look at the matchups.
1. OSU vs LSU. LSU would be favored by a touchdown on a neutral field. SEC leads 1-0
2. Illinois vs Tennessee. Tennesee would probably be a 3 pt favorite but this one could go either way. I'm gonna call this a tie. SEC leads 1-0-1
3. Michigan vs Georgia. Michigan would get blown out. SEC leads 2-0-1
4. Wisconsin vs Florida. This would be a good game, too close to call really. I'd give the edge to Florida but I'm gonna call this one a tie. SEC leads 2-0-2
5. Penn State vs Auburn. I would expect Auburn to win this but this also could go either way. SEC leads 2-0-3
6. Arkansas vs Iowa. Arkansas would win this easily. SEC leads 3-0-3
7. Kentucky vs Indiana. lol SEC leads 4-0-3
8. Michigan State vs Mississippi State. I think Michigan State has the edge here, Big ten is on the board! SEC leads 4-1-3
9. Purdue vs Alabama. Both of these teams totally fell off at the end of the year. Another tie. SEC leads 4-1-4
10. Northwestern vs South Carolina. lmao SEC leads 5-1-4
11. Minnesota vs Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt would be about a 10 pt favorite. SEC wins 6-1-4
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i agree there are schools with better programs. no doubt.
did you even answer my question as to why ohio state gets so much respect? all you said was that they play in lots of bowl games and are always ranked and output plenty of NFL players...oh yeah and thanks a lot for drew carter (carolina panthers) he's amazing...but so do pretty much all the other colleges.
and yeah, based on strength of schedule, 2 SEC losses is the same as ohio state going undefeated. every SEC team (with like two exceptions each year) at worst a good team. who is kent state anyways?? yeah sec is the best no doubt. what you didn't mention is the the big ten is NOT number two. or number three. i'd put them at 4.
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kent state?
osu puts out a lot more NFL players then most schools. lol why shouldnt they get respect?? thats the real question. im not an osu fan btw.
i really dont know which conference is number 2. its between big10/big12/pac10 for me
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the pac 10? lol
and when do the new bcs standings come out?
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the standings come out tonight after the second NFL game on fox. here are the predictions:
Rose Bowl presented by Citi
Jan. 1 / 4:30 p.m. Pasadena, Calif. ABC
*BCS vs. BCS (Big Ten Champion vs. Pac 10 Champion, if available)
Projection: USC vs. Illinois
Allstate Sugar Bowl
Jan. 1 / 8:30 p.m. New Orleans, La. FOX
*BCS vs. BCS (SEC Champion, if available)
Projection: Hawaii vs. Georgia
Tostitos Fiesta Bowl
Jan. 2 / 8 p.m. Phoenix, Ariz. FOX
*BCS vs. BCS (Big 12 Champion, if available)
Projection: Kansas vs. Oklahoma
FedEx Orange Bowl
Jan. 3 / 8 p.m. Miami, Fla. FOX
*BCS vs. BCS (ACC Champion, if available)
Projection: Virginia Tech vs. West Virginia
Allstate BCS National Championship
Jan. 7 / 8 p.m. New Orleans, La. FOX
*BCS #1 vs. BCS #2
Projection: Ohio State vs. LSU
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ok..
#7 wisconsin wins by a field goal over #14 arkansas...seems standard enough..
#24 penn state against #25 tennessee wins by ten. ok but i would have rooted for penn state since i hate tennessee.
and then the championship game which we know what happened.
even though big ten won the series, it looks pretty standard...all except the ohio state game. one more time: OVERRATED!
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Your reasoning makes no sense. You just put down the Big Ten by showing that they won the majority of the bowl games against SEC.
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For now, all of this talk that SEC is awesome and the Big Ten is weak is just that, talk.
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You seem to be judging both conferences by their best team. If you match up the best team from each conference, the second best teams from each conference, etc, the Big Ten might go 0-11. |
Since we are using last years results for this argument, take a look at the Big Ten vs. SEC results in last year's bowl games. |
I'm talking about this season. Let's look at the matchups.
1. OSU vs LSU. LSU would be favored by a touchdown on a neutral field. SEC leads 1-0
2. Illinois vs Tennessee. Tennesee would probably be a 3 pt favorite but this one could go either way. I'm gonna call this a tie. SEC leads 1-0-1
3. Michigan vs Georgia. Michigan would get blown out. SEC leads 2-0-1
4. Wisconsin vs Florida. This would be a good game, too close to call really. I'd give the edge to Florida but I'm gonna call this one a tie. SEC leads 2-0-2
5. Penn State vs Auburn. I would expect Auburn to win this but this also could go either way. SEC leads 2-0-3
6. Arkansas vs Iowa. Arkansas would win this easily. SEC leads 3-0-3
7. Kentucky vs Indiana. lol SEC leads 4-0-3
8. Michigan State vs Mississippi State. I think Michigan State has the edge here, Big ten is on the board! SEC leads 4-1-3
9. Purdue vs Alabama. Both of these teams totally fell off at the end of the year. Another tie. SEC leads 4-1-4
10. Northwestern vs South Carolina. lmao SEC leads 5-1-4
11. Minnesota vs Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt would be about a 10 pt favorite. SEC wins 6-1-4 |
These games haven't happened yet or may never will. You can't justify your beliefs on something that has never existed. You believe that this will happen so this has to be true.
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i agree there are schools with better programs. no doubt.
did you even answer my question as to why ohio state gets so much respect? all you said was that they play in lots of bowl games and are always ranked and output plenty of NFL players...oh yeah and thanks a lot for drew carter (carolina panthers) he's amazing...but so do pretty much all the other colleges.
and yeah, based on strength of schedule, 2 SEC losses is the same as ohio state going undefeated. every SEC team (with like two exceptions each year) at worst a good team. who is kent state anyways?? yeah sec is the best no doubt. what you didn't mention is the the big ten is NOT number two. or number three. i'd put them at 4.
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I think that you should also take a look at where a large group of the coaches came from. Where did they get their start?
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bigspenda73
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omg no way Illinois deserves to be in a BCS bowl, no fucking way
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WildBobAA
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
omg no way Illinois deserves to be in a BCS bowl, no fucking way
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oh cmon, they will only be 20 pt dogs to USC!
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WTH, the Illini in the Rose Bowl =(
If only Henne and Hart didn't get hurt
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"the world def needs more bikeses"
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i actually think that would be a good game
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Originally Posted by Bbickes
WTH, the Illini in the Rose Bowl =(
If only Henne and Hart didn't get hurt
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or if they would start the year out beating teams they should...
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