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meeloche
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03-02-2008, 05:32 AM
Post subject: Leggo or CR?
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I want to get a video subscription but I'm only going to go with 1 for now.
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bode
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i voted CR but thats all i have. i would like to know about leggo as well.
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What I say?
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cr has so many of the most respected internet pros in the world so...
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bigspenda73
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yea but their vids don't relay great messages imo
from what I've seen from deucescracked and leggo I am more impressed with their content/strat videos than I was with CR's.
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gabe
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i made a guest pro video for leggo that should be up soon...
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wufwugy
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
yea but their vids don't relay great messages imo
from what I've seen from deucescracked and leggo I am more impressed with their content/strat videos than I was with CR's.
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What have you seen from deuces that was good?
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wufwugy
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i made a guest pro video for leggo that should be up soon...
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Which means you'll eventually become part of the TEAMMM since all guest pros eventually have become part of the team.
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What have you seen from deuces that was good?
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The whole Unconventional Wisdom series was pretty eyeopening to me (though I'm misapplying the stuff - need to study those more).
krantz vs whitelime seems to have good stuff in it though I've only watched a few.
But then again CR have CTS.
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I bought a Leggo subscription the other day and I think they're awesome. Not that I've seen the others. But from what I've seen, Leggo applies a lot more to the short handed cash players.
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I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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yea but their vids don't relay great messages imo
from what I've seen from deucescracked and leggo I am more impressed with their content/strat videos than I was with CR's.
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What have you seen from deuces that was good? |
just watched the 8-9 pt. series from fsxleduck and dj sensei, I liked it for myself because I've struggled to become more aggro and they hit on that a lot.
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cts means a lot
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I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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yeah cts makes CR so much better.
also when these new videos they were making out at townsends house with like 2 of them talking together start coming out that should help to, im expecting them to be really good.
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meeloche
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how often does cts do a new video though? From what I understand the top guys at leggo put out more videos faster.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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cts means a lot
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You just want everyone to see you own him in that one video.
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I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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that was aba!
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Doesn't matter which one is better. If you get one and watch just five of their best videos and still can't pwn 1/2 you're beyond help. And once you're pwning 1/2 you can purchase all the subscrips you want.
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Leggo has much more quantity of quality but CR has the top videos from the sickest CTS. Tough choice.
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I had a CR membership a long time ago but I cancled it b/c the videos didn't do anything for me.
A while back I watched one of the sample leggo vids, I think from MYNAMEIZGREG, and I thought it was hands-down better (education-wise) than any of the stuff CR had put out. If I got one or the other, it would probably be leggo.
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that was aba!
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which video was it?
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I just canceled CR this month. I am moving to leggo for now. The Duecescracked vids so far are great too, they just dont have alot right now.
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meeloche
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I'm thinking I'm going to go with leggo first and when I have more money I'll get a card runners membership. We'll c how it goes.
Thanks guys.
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meeloche
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I see on the sign up sheet for leggo that there is an option for who referred you? Do you get a bonus or something for referring somebody?
First one to post with their leggo sn and Ill say you referred me.
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Originally Posted by meeloche
I see on the sign up sheet for leggo that there is an option for who referred you? Do you get a bonus or something for referring somebody?
First one to post with their leggo sn and Ill say you referred me.
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I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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meeloche
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What do you get for referring ppl?
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Im happy with CR, i watched a samplevideo of MYNAMEISGREZ and his video was top notch, so i dont think u can go wrong with either choosing CR or leggo.
Altough, CR has CTS!!
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What do you get for referring ppl?
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No clue, I think they extend your membership by a month
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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What do you get for referring ppl?
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No clue, I think they extend your membership by a month |
u get points for it where u can get things from shop with
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Does anyone want to give their updated input into this one?
I have been a Cardrunners member for a year but given that I'm hardly playing I feel like a change of scenery would do me good. Off all the pros playing mid stakes I also only ever really liked Fabian's videos (although StaceysMom's videos aren't bad either). CTS' videos are great though.
So Meeloche, Galapogos etc. What did you guys think about Leggo? I personally am more drawn to Deucescracked but I can easily be convinced.
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Leggo poker for reasons soon to be evident.
And they are just that much better than CR
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I have had CR for a while and basically I can't even sit through a video there. I think Deuces Cracked offers more information and offer a much more professional product. They actually plan series out and know what they are going to talk about going into videos. Not like CR where they record random sessions and decide later what they talked about.
Also the instructors are much more likable. I go on tilt listening to BT or GP talk. Jesus I just need to cancel my CR membership.
As for CTS, he makes a video like every other month. It's cheaper just to pay to download his videos individually.
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So Meeloche, Galapogos etc. What did you guys think about Leggo? I personally am more drawn to Deucescracked but I can easily be convinced.
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DC doesn't have a registration fee and the first month is free. Just sign up I promise you will love it. Especially coming from CR.
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<Staxalax> I want everyone to put my quote in their sigs
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i was going to join CR, but im glad i didn't. i hope they lose many more potential customers due to this.
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i've never been to any of these.
links please
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i was going to join CR, but im glad i didn't. i hope they lose many more potential customers due to this.
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I don't know what you and Jyms are referring to, but be glad you saved your money. CR is awful imo. They have a million different instructors who make a video like once a month at best.
Sign up for a month of DC. There is nothing to lose and you will love it. As soon as I cancel cr I plan on giving leggo a shot, I like the reviews I am hearing.
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wills talking about hte past, I'm talking the future. Soon.
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wills talking about hte past, I'm talking the future. Soon.
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C'mon with it please.
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Yeah I have only ever been a CR member but I don't feel that enthusiastic anymore. Also I can hardly watch a whole video anymore.
I saw the free 7-day trial at DC. Will try that and download as many videos as possible (no DRM sounds appealing).
Leggo seems to have many HU videos and I'm not so much into them. Shall I really wait Jim? Or is it just because of gayb's upcoming guest video?
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GAbe is a great reason, but he's not "the" reason.
Leggo is just going to be a better site over all in the future for regular grinders
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A lot of cardrunners videos are very very good. CTS, Raptor, and Jman's 1 vid are all amazing. aba and GP put out good videos sometimes. A lot of others just aren't that great but solid. I improved my MTT shitloads through CR as well.
Leggopoker I like but there are just not enough videos. MNIG, Bobbo, aejones, Straate, Seabeast, Chewy all make very good mid/high stakes videos.
I'm probably going to sign up for DC for Krantz, FWF and others.
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Well Jim. You kind of let the cat out of the bag here
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Well Jim. You kind of let the cat out of the bag here |
What cat? There is no reason. I just know that leggo will be the better site. FWIW I am getting both sites this week anyway.
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CARD RUNNERS SUPPORTS RAPTOR517 WHO IS THE ENEMEY OF NUTSINHO THE FTR HERO. A VOTE FOR CARD RUNNEMS IS A VOTE A SATAN.
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Well Jim. You kind of let the cat out of the bag here |
What cat? There is no reason. I just know that leggo will be the better site. FWIW I am getting both sites this week anyway. |
I was hoping for a "LeggoPoker buys Grinderschool for X Million" headline or something like it.
Do you have a specific reason why Leggo will be better? If yes I can hold off signing up with DC. If its sensitive info or facts you can't disclose my PM Inbox is pretty good with secrets.
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I am no longer affiliated with Grinderschool.
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I recommend Leggo. Lots of good vids for the small/mid stakes grinders. Plus they're bringing in a couple new pros in the near future. Mind you I've never seen a DC video. Just expressing my satisfaction with Leggo's content.
Be cool and buy both.
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I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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DC is really good as well as Leggo. I think Leggo will take over the lead very soon though.
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all right let me lay it down
CR: sucks. handful of great players, but they aint that great at making vids. the one that is great is cts, and he still isnt the best.
DC: great, but not infallible. some of the vids arent really that good, but some are great. fslexcduck is probably the best coach on the site. ive tried to watch krantz and whitelime but just cant get into it. i can imagine those guys being amazing coaches, but there's a little lacking in the vids. i say a little because there's still a ton of great info in them. i think a problem is it seems they dont explain the little details, only bigger things. some of us need little details as well. a thing about DC that other sites dont have is that they cover certain topics and formats well. like spenda i believe was saying earlier, the joint series from duck and sensei is aaaaaaaawesome.
LP: best and its not even close to close. aejones is probably the best vid maker on the planet. he loves to talk and explain shit and is sick good. bobbofitos is number two. he also loves to talk and explain shit and has a super good theoretical understanding. i dont like saying hes any worse than aejones tho so i guess ill retract that. i guess my issue is that it may be a wee bit easier to learn from jones than from fitos, even though its not hard from fitos. seabeast is mega sick too. the guy 3bets like every other hand and shoves every other 3bet pot, and he thinks 2/4 is ridiculously soft.
the thing about LP is that they have a higher standard than all other sites. every single producer is fervently enthusiastic and informative about their explanations. they try to keep dead space away, and illustrate their thought process in every situation in every way.
stoxpoker: have not seen them, but want to because leatherass is the greatest poker player who has ever lived and again its not even close to close
oh and when the fuck is g-p vid coming? i been waitin and waitin
also sauce signing with lp would be sicknesssss. see this is what i need to do. i need to get sick good, like so good that i sit at 10knl all day and dominate takers because then i could make my own training site and since i can be more thorough in my explanations than anybody who has ever lived i would make cajillions
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stoxpoker: have not seen them, but want to because leatherass is the greatest poker player who has ever lived and again its not even close to close
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qfomgawesomenesss
seriously, give leatherass ten mil and tell him to annihilate 10knl hu and he'll do it within months. there will never be a player as driven as him and who enjoys the game as much. there will never be a better player.
you heard it here first
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Ive bought a leggo subscription a while ago and suddenly stopped watching CR vids. High quality stuff and Im so excited about gabes vid....
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